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Old 08-30-2005   #1
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Default How 'bout dat boy Sloan Thomas

I'm glad to see Sloan producing this pre-season. He's leading the team in reception yards, second to AJ in receptions, and unless I'm mistaken - he missed the first game. I've always been a fan of Sloan's and I think he has a lot of unrealized potential (of course I'm biased 'cause I've seen him blow past people plenty of time at Darryl K.) I've alway's thought he would make a good 3 guy, but I'm starting to wonder, can he be our 2? He's got good size, good speed, and good hands. He doesn't have the experience of Bradford or the speed of Mathis, but I believe his hands are much better than either.
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I agree with you!! I'm am totally pumped from what I have seen from Sloan and I knew he could do it. I hope he can make the 53 man roster because I believe he will produce for this team!!
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I disagree..If we need hands we can turn to armstrong. However the thing I beleive we need is speed. We never seem to be able to shake the CB's or safeties. I beleive with the addition of Mathis for speed at slot 2 we will have a better chance of getting AJ open and having Mathis able to break in case of double coverage on AJ.
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He seems to run good routes and his hands make up for poorly thrown balls. I've said all along that he is used to playing with a QB that throws lazers.
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He was the one player I took the time to get a picture of at the game.

Hope he's able to stick. If not, send him up this way.
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However the thing I beleive we need is speed.
He's definately not as fast as Mathis, but Sloan has decent speed, I believe he beat Roy Williams at the combine. The only thing with Mathis is can he run the route crrectly, and can he catch the ball. I'm excited to see 'cause if he can we got a weapon, but he hasn't proven to me that he can yet. I have a lot more confidence in Sloan at this point in their careers, but I've watched Sloan play a lot more. He was the only receiver at Texas who you could count on to catch every possible ball. (Roy was much better, but you'll remember he would occasionally drop the easy catches.)
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I disagree..If we need hands we can turn to armstrong. However the thing I beleive we need is speed. We never seem to be able to shake the CB's or safeties. I beleive with the addition of Mathis for speed at slot 2 we will have a better chance of getting AJ open and having Mathis able to break in case of double coverage on AJ.

I couldnt disagree more . The NFL isnt Madden . Speed isnt everything to a reciever . Thomas is a much better fit for the Texans offense at this point in time than Mathis . Thomas just has a knack for getting open , his speed is adequate and hands better than most give him credit for . He was the #2 reciever @ UT opposite a great reciever in Roy Williams . He understands what is expected of the position and how to exploit what the opposing defense does to stop the #1 option .
With so many zone and cover two defenses in todays NFL blazing speed will only take you so far . The ability to find the soft spot in those zone coverages is more important , something that Bradford another speedy player has yet yo figure out .
I am by no means bashing Mathis , i think he has HUGE potential , just at this point in time he isnt a polished enough reciever to be the #2 option .
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I see and respect your opinion. However I still beleive we need speed. I beleive that is what we got mathis for. I was taught a little lesson at Clear Lake H.S. (Anyone can learn to catch not everyone can learn to run faster.)

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That's what the 'roids are for.
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Agree'd . Speed Cant be taught
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I see and respect your opinion. However I still beleive we need speed. I beleive that is what we got mathis for. I was taught a little lesson at Clear Lake H.S. (Anyone can learn to catch not everyone can learn to run faster.)

There are 2 different types of speed. Track speed and football speed. Jerry Rice was by far not the fastest player but is NOW THE GREATEST RECEIVER to ever play the game.

I agree that speed can not be taught but being a great football player can't be taught either.
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I was taught a little lesson at Clear Lake H.S. (Anyone can learn to catch not everyone can learn to run faster.)
I've learned something from watching football for a long time:

For every Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, or Marvin Harrison, there are probably a 100 Willie Gault's.

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i like sloan but i like mathis better. i do hope sloan makes the team though
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hey in my mind armstrong is the guy to cut...he might have the best hands but that doesn't matter if you can't stay healthy...armstrong hasn't played a down this preseason because of injuries...i'd rather see sloan come in and play and open some eyes
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Armstrong has had his first injury and it just happens to have kept him out of the preseason. If they cut him because of that.. its gonna be a bad move. Armstrong is great and has had no real injury issues in the past (i dont think)
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Thomas was the fastest of the 3 talented receivers from UT that included
Roy Williams--here is his 40 yd time against some top picks this year--

Braylon Edwards... 4.45
Sloan Thomas...4.55
Mike Williams...4.56

....so, I don't think speed is an issue here--Mathis 4.28 is the exception,
not the norm
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Thomas is quick.. that was his selling point. Thomas did his cone drills in a faster time than Roy Williams.. thats what got him noticed. Speed wasnt necessarily his strong point.. though really he isnt slow.
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mathis is a FREAK, that kind of speed is unnatural. glad he's on our team!
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I've learned something from watching football for a long time:

For every Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, or Marvin Harrison, there are probably a 100 Willie Gault's.
It couldn't be said any better. If you've played football you understand that statement. Perfect A.J.

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Thomas was the fastest of the 3 talented receivers from UT that included
Roy Williams--here is his 40 yd time against some top picks this year--

Braylon Edwards... 4.45
Sloan Thomas...4.55
Mike Williams...4.56

....so, I don't think speed is an issue here--Mathis 4.28 is the exception,
not the norm
Not that this really matters (because IMO differences of tenths of a second are vastly overrated), but where are you getting your numbers from because it was reported Roy Williams ran sub 4.4's at his pro-day and his NFL.com prospect profile has 4.48?
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