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Old 08-28-2005   #21
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I, and others, have said to watch for Mathis and I think he showed some of his potential tonight. I still think Kasper is a go to guy, and as I have said in other posts, Bradford has been a surprise. Or is it the usual TC pheonon who disappears when the season starts. Mathis, Kasper, Starling and Armstrong have hands. AJ has average hands at best and that has always been the knock. It seemed like the 1st two possessions featured primarily AJ. They did not move the ball around and I think that was the plan. AJ can not do it alone.

On paper our offense looks so much like last year's team. By that I mean we are always on the ragged edge offensively. We just don't make that many big plays to make up for the occasional bad ones. It seems like once we get in a hole we can't get out. To be a contendor you have to be able to make the big play when you need it, because every team is going to have their penalties and failures. The good ones overcome the bad. So far the Texans have not shown the ability to do that.

I still question the defense and I think the maturity of Glenn is sorely missed. I don't think the new young players will have that much of an impact in the 1st part of the season. If they do not come along by the beginning of the 2nd half of the season then we might finish well below .500 for the season. This is a very fragile team with little if any depth at many key positions. I wish us well, but we have yet to see much that we have'nt seen before. The one big positive is our special teams play other than penalities. We have some people this year who can take it to the house if only we learn how not to get penalties.

Remember, the plan for the season was quick 2 and 3 step drops with quick short releases. Carr trying to sit in the pocket is not was planned, nor practiced extensively. I also said in a prior post that Carr is best when he's moving and that's what normally happens with zone blocking. Now having said that, I also said watch out if a team figures out that you want to contain Carr and not let him role out. He's not going to hurt you right now in the pocket, because he's not use to it and he has to learn to find the lanes to throw through.

This team does not adjust well to the other team's defense. We seem to come out with a plan and that's what we continue to do throughout the entire game. When the other team adjusts we go down hill, because we don't seem to have an alternate plan of attack. Its characteristic of what I've said about Capers and his game planning. That is why I have been unimpressed with the 1st two games. Yes, the offense moved the ball on the 1st series or 2 in each of the games and then that was it. We moved the ball to the 20 on one of the 1st series and then Carr was intercepted. After that it was down hill.

I believe, up until the 2 minute mark of the 1st half, both teams were under 100 yards total offense each. Quite frankly, its very boring football with relatively little creativity. Our defense will only be as good as our offense. By that I mean the offense has to stay on the field longer if our young defense is going to have any success. We have to keep the pressure off of our defense. Once we are behind, we have problems because our young defenders tend to take chances. When you are ahead, you can gamble and the pressure on the other team will give you more latitude in your play calling. We are not an excellent come from behind team.
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Yep. I saw what you saw.

Hollings is nearing the end, but I wonder if he can somehow be put on the practice squad or some other list in case one of the other HBs gets inured during the season? It's not that he's THAT bad...it's just that you can see a noticeable drop-off from DD to Morency and then from Morency to Hollings.

Anybody here who honestly thinks that Hollings has outperformed Morency is not watching the same games I've been watching. Even the difference in body language (how Hollings and Morency each carry themselves between snaps) is considerably different. One guy looks and walks confidently and another guy is slumping and moping around with his hands on his hips most of the time.

Carr was awful. I've never seen him look so out of sync. Why did he have to pick THIS game to be absent? I am usually pretty good about seeing the silver lining in the games where we've kinda' stunk it up.....but tonight, I was just so flat out embarassed, I couldn't hardly watch the game toward the end of the first half. And you know our team is embarassed. Roy Williams is the ONLY good player on that defense, and it looked like there were 10 of him out there tonight. Did he clone himself before the game tonight?

That was just a very bizarre-o game. Period. We couldn't do much of anything except for special teams.
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Carr made Newman look like the leauge MVP.
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Carr was off the whole game it seemed. not going to throw in the towel, but man he mad some bad passes. Just a sloppy game overall, lots of penalties, dropped balls, and Banks looked terrible. On the positive side, Carr wasn't sacked, DD was good, Nice run by morency, nice sack by peek, 1st team defense looked great except for one drive, great returns on special teams, and no major injuries. kinda worried about DD, but i think he'll be alright.
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On the positive side, Carr wasn't sacked, DD was good,
Hate to take somethign away from the positive side, but I think they're counting the takedown by Ware as a sack. Not sure since it was close. Either way Riley let him get by him when Carr stepped up in the pocket. I don't think DD's injury is that serious, but I doubt we see him much, if at all, in the TB game.
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IBAR it seems we saw the same game and coaches. As the game wears on we don't seem to make the necessary adjustments on either side of the ball.
It seems Carr is best on the run and yet we were working on the DEEP (5-7 steps) drop last night. More importantly, I saw a QB exhibiting bad mechanics- throwing off the back foot, not looking off defenders,not hitting/throwing to the OPEN receiver.
I can't help but believe part of this is coaching because Banks did the same thing when he came into the game.
Receivers are going to drop passes, but a 5.7 rating is a little more than dropped passes.
We have amassed a defense built on speed, and to me the schemes that I have seen are all wrong. I hope we are just showing vanilla now but all of the sprinkles,nuts, and other toppings will be here in two weeks!
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What were the goals and objectives for the team last night? The next question is were they attained? I'm waiting for Capers to say if we had only executed. I guess I would wonder if he was talking about the team or Palmer. We have played 3 games with little if any excitment. We simply do not try to make things happen. We remain so so predictable. The one very bright spot could be Mathis, but the rest of it is pretty dreary. Another glimmer has been Riley. I certainly didn't expect to see him playing, little lone, playing reasonably well.

Next question is will Texans fans continue to pay high prices to see this kind of mediocrity? Medicority at best is what you would describe we are seeing. Mr. McNair has a lot of money on the line and needs the cash to keep flowing to pay the bills. If the fans start leaving early, some one is going to have to pay the price...........
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How can you blow up a team that has basically had the first team in for a little over one half. That totals about 9 drives so far. If it weren't for penalties and turnovers we would have scored on half of them. That's w/o Gaffney and Armstrong. Any team can get out of sync for a half or a few games for that matter and still rebound. Much less a few drives in PRESEASON. I think I'm starting to so it's probably time to chill and wait for at least a few games into the season to make some fair assessments.
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I'm not sure we need to go to that extreme but I was definitely disappointed last night. Penalties were over the top, even if the refs were falg happy we gave them a lot of reasons to throw them. Extremely sloppy football. And I don't even want to get started on Carr. A decent series of plays extending beyond 3 and out is a fantasy. This guy is supposed to be a leader? IMHO he needs to quit playing Joe Hollywood and focus on the football. Speaking of focus, there is absolutely no consistency in his level of play. I say we give him this year (only because we have little other choice) and of he doesn't step up to the challenge, we move on.

I'm praying these guys prove me wrong but I'm doubtful seeing the play I've seen so far. It doesn't look much different than the last three years.
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If it weren't for penalties and turnovers we would have scored on half of them.
Also see...

- "if it weren't preseason"
- "if Carr had less time"
- "if Davis didn't get hurt"
- "if Dre didn't drop so many passes"
- "if the receivers would have run better routes"
- "if the play calling would have kept the defenses guessing"
- "if Carr would have made better decisions"
- "if Chester Pitts would get his head out of his arse"
- "if we had a tight end to throw to"
- "if someone could make a play on 3rd down"

...we would have scored on half of them.

Ah, another year of excuses. The story of this team since its inception.
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We simply do not try to make things happen. We remain so so predictable.
You have to take what the defense gives you. That's the mentality. God forbid they try to go out and take something.
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Also see...

- "if it weren't preseason"
- "if Carr had less time"
- "if Davis didn't get hurt"
- "if Dre didn't drop so many passes"
- "if the receivers would have run better routes"
- "if the play calling would have kept the defenses guessing"
- "if Carr would have made better decisions"
- "if Chester Pitts would get his head out of his arse"
- "if we had a tight end to throw to"
- "if someone could make a play on 3rd down"

...we would have scored on half of them.

Ah, another year of excuses. The story of this team since its inception.
You act like Houston fans are the only ones that make excuses and that the actual team has been making all these excuses too. Criticizing a franchise and its fanbase over some fans frustrated concerns is pretty weak.
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Ah, another year of excuses. The story of this team since its inception.


This could turn out to be a very true statement.
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hmmm this is one Fd Up thread.
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Ah, another year of excuses. The story of this team since its inception.[/quote]

Did you really expect the Texans to play at a high playoff or championship level in their first few years in the league? With those kind of expectations it's no wonder you're so upset.
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Did you really expect the Texans to play at a high playoff or championship level in their first few years in the league? With those kind of expectations it's no wonder you're so upset.
I'm not upset. Just calling them like I see them. These guys get paid a lot of money and some of that comes out of my paycheck. We're shareholders in this company and should feel free to voice our concerns.
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Originally Posted by the wonger need food
Also see...

- "if it weren't preseason"
- "if Carr had less time"
- "if Davis didn't get hurt"
- "if Dre didn't drop so many passes"
- "if the receivers would have run better routes"
- "if the play calling would have kept the defenses guessing"
- "if Carr would have made better decisions"
- "if Chester Pitts would get his head out of his arse"
- "if we had a tight end to throw to"
- "if someone could make a play on 3rd down"

...we would have scored on half of them.
See, we just need a few minor changes.

I was looking at the schedule earlier today and I'm getting really worried about that first half of the season. I had us winning 7 games, but 5 of them were in the second half. That's 2-6 in the first half! Thank God we've got good backups for DD because who knows if he'll even be there in the second half. However, I predicted 9 wins this year (before the preseason started) and I think preseason just confuses the crud out of people. I would say, "Wait 'till the real season begins," like some others, but I'm afraid we may go 0-2 to start even if we're better than a lot of you think. I sure hope these guys get pumped up for that Buffalo game, because Pittsburgh is gonna mean business.
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It's gonna be hilarious when we go 3-0 to start the season.
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Preseason is such a funny thing.

Most fans get overly excited or disappointed based on games mostly played by backups and when the regular season starts you'd be hard pressed to find any fan that can tell you much about the preseason. All of a sudden it's as though this lightbulb goes off in one's head and you realize preseason games are basically just practices for most teams.

The Texans will smooth out their offensive problems or they will be hiring somebody to replace Palmer next year. Johnson will make monster catches. David will make plenty of 3rd down runs for that first down. I think the Texans will either be on the cusp of the playoffs or actually in them. If your team is going to play bad Lord let it be in preseason. Even the owners only half watch those games.

On a side note. I really like the Cowboys throw back uniforms. Best ones I've seen from the older teams.
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Also see...

- "if it weren't preseason"
- "if Carr had less time"
- "if Davis didn't get hurt"
- "if Dre didn't drop so many passes"
- "if the receivers would have run better routes"
- "if the play calling would have kept the defenses guessing"
- "if Carr would have made better decisions"
- "if Chester Pitts would get his head out of his arse"
- "if we had a tight end to throw to"
- "if someone could make a play on 3rd down"

...we would have scored on half of them.

Ah, another year of excuses. The story of this team since its inception.
My Mom always told me when I was a little boy that "If if was a 5th, we would all be drunk." I think i'm starting to understand her now.
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