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Old 08-26-2005   #21
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson--I wouldn't trade a piece of gum for this guy.
Bengals: Carson Palmer--Pretty close, both young guys on way up. Push.
Bills: J.P. Losman--Too early, hasn't proved anything yet.
Broncos: Jake Plummer--Good lord no.
Browns: Trent Dilfer--Nope.
Bucs: Brian Griese--Nope.
Cardinals: Kurt Warner--Do I even have to answer this one?
Chargers: Drew Brees--Only if he had another good season in 2005, then definitely.
Chiefs: Trent Green--Better than Carr, but on downside of career.
Colts: Peyton Manning--No brainer.
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe--Ugh. No way in hell.
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte--Worse than Bledsoe.
Ealges: Donovan McNabb--No brainer.
Falcons: Michael Vick--No brainer. (as long as he learns to throw.)
Giants: Eli Manning--Too early, needs to prove it.
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich--Push.
Jets: Chad Pennington--Push.
Lions: Joey Harrington/Jeff Garcia --Even if you got both for Carr, no way.
Niners: Alex Smith--Too early.
Packers: Brett Favre--Too late.
Panthers: Jake Delhomme--Yup.
Patriots: Tom Brady--No brainer.
Raiders: Kerry Collins--No.
Rams: Marc Bulger--Yes.
Ravens: Kyle Boller--No way!
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey--No way!
Saints: Aaron Brooks--More talent than Carr, but not nearly as a good a QB. No thanks Aaron.
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck--Meh. Maybe.
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger--After another good season? Oh yeah.
Titans: Steve McNair--Too old.
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper--No brainer.
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson--I wouldn't trade a piece of gum for this guy.
Bengals: Carson Palmer--Pretty close, both young guys on way up. Push.
Bills: J.P. Losman--Too early, hasn't proved anything yet.
Broncos: Jake Plummer--Good lord no.
Browns: Trent Dilfer--Nope.
Bucs: Brian Griese--Nope.
Cardinals: Kurt Warner--Do I even have to answer this one?
Chargers: Drew Brees--Only if he had another good season in 2005, then definitely.
Chiefs: Trent Green--Better than Carr, but on downside of career.
Colts: Peyton Manning--No brainer.
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe--Ugh. No way in hell.
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte--Worse than Bledsoe.
Ealges: Donovan McNabb--No brainer.
Falcons: Michael Vick--No brainer. (as long as he learns to throw.)
Giants: Eli Manning--Too early, needs to prove it.
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich--Push.
Jets: Chad Pennington--Push.
Lions: Joey Harrington/Jeff Garcia --Even if you got both for Carr, no way.
Niners: Alex Smith--Too early.
Packers: Brett Favre--Too late.
Panthers: Jake Delhomme--Yup.
Patriots: Tom Brady--No brainer.
Raiders: Kerry Collins--No.
Rams: Marc Bulger--Yes.
Ravens: Kyle Boller--No way!
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey--No way!
Saints: Aaron Brooks--More talent than Carr, but not nearly as a good a QB. No thanks Aaron.
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck--Meh. Maybe.
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger--After another good season? Oh yeah.
Titans: Steve McNair--Too old.
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper--No brainer.

Good to see that there is at least one Bills fan that isnt a total homer.

Panthers: Jake Delhomme--Yup.
Finally someone gives Delhomme some props. I think he is the most underrated QB in the NFL.
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I wouldnt trade Carr, but Brady or Vick, would be my 2nd choices...I think Volek has a good future as well.
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I wouldn't trade Carr for anybody. Even if we could say trade Carr straight up for P. Manning, I think it might hurt the team because of how much Manning costs compared to Carr. If there wasn't a salary cap, then maybe i'd trade him, but I like Carr, he's got alot potential.
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Without any Line changes, I'd only swap for McNabb or Vick.

At least I know that they can "Run for their lives" with the best of 'em!
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Without any Line changes, I'd only swap for McNabb or Vick.

At least I know that they can "Run for their lives" with the best of 'em!
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Hell with the folks they have around Manning most QGs would look great also, not to take anything away from Peyton. Don't forget we have been building a franchise around a young qb so he is going to develop slower that someone like manning. I really don't see Manning waking in the middle of the night dreaming about being sacked AGAIN.

Carr had had a MUCH MUCH tougher introduction into the league that Manning did.

i complete agree, and i love having carr....any man that takes the hits he takes can qb my team anytime, i was just saying, strictly from a numbers standpoint, manning is a god, and ANY team would take him for their qb straight up, but im by no means rushing carrs development or saying he needs to go...but he is peyton freaking manning. oh yeah, and mike vick is the truth!
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The obvious are Manning, Brady, Culpepper, Mcnabb, and Vick. But outside those top 5. It's pretty much Carr all the way for now.

But i see Carson Palmer, Big Ben, Carr, kinda all mushed up in the same feild.
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its close but big ben has the luxery of an outstanding line. i think carr is a better qb but ben's stats are better because he has time.
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson - lol
Bengals: Carson Palmer - push
Bills: J.P. Losman - too early to tell
Broncos: Jake Plummer - nope
Browns: Trent Dilfer - hahaha
Bucs: Brian Griese - naw
Cardinals: Kurt Warner - uhhh, no
Chargers: Drew Brees - if he has another season like last year, then yes
Chiefs: Trent Green - push
Colts: Peyton Manning - hell yeah
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe - can you imagine this statue behind our OL?
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte - possibly the worst starting QB in the league
Ealges: Donovan McNabb - but of course
Falcons: Michael Vick - all he does is win, and as a student at the Herman Edwards School of football, I can tell you that, "You play to win the game!"
Giants: Eli Manning - too early to tell
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich - too slow and injury prone
Jets: Chad Pennington - push
Lions: Joey Harrington / Jeff Garcia - nope
Niners: Alex Smith - too early to tell, though I was never really impressed by him in college
Packers: Brett Favre - too old
Panthers: Jake Delhomme - push
Patriots: Tom Brady - yep
Raiders: Kerry Collins - lol
Rams: Marc Bulger - nope
Ravens: Kyle Boller - naw
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey - hellz naw
Saints: Aaron Brooks - awnaw
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck - push
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger - too early to tell
Titans: Steve McNair - too old and injury prone
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper - yep
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Bears: Chad Hutchinson - Just get him for a 7th rounder..
Bengals: Carson Palmer - Yes
Bills: J.P. Losman - No
Broncos: Jake Plummer - No
Browns: Trent Dilfer - I'd rather take the rookie back-up..
Bucs: Brian Griese - No
Cardinals: Kurt Warner - No
Chargers: Drew Brees - Possibly..
Chiefs: Trent Green - Yes
Colts: Peyton Manning - Yes
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe - No
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte - I don't know why he won the starting job over AJ Feeley..
Ealges: Donovan McNabb - Yes
Falcons: Michael Vick - Yes
Giants: Eli Manning - No
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich - Yes
Jets: Chad Pennington - Yes
Lions: Joey Harrington / Jeff Garcia - No
Niners: Alex Smith - No, he looked lost against the Titans last night
Packers: Brett Favre - Yes
Panthers: Jake Delhomme - No
Patriots: Tom Brady - Yes
Raiders: Kerry Collins - No
Rams: Marc Bulger - Yes
Ravens: Kyle Boller - No
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey - loool
Saints: Aaron Brooks - Yes
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck - Yes
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger - No
Titans: Steve McNair - Definately, I'd even take 3rd stringer Chris Redman..
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper - Yes
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All QB's are products of their OLines and Recievers.

As a Georgian Ive seen Vick in person, he is a good RB and a half***** QB. he would get injured in the first couple of games, and be a waist of money. he can run, but puts himself in a dangerous situation.

McNabb has got settled into the pocket(he can still run, but not like he used to) he would take awhile to get settled in (say 2 years).

Brady would hunch over and cry after the fifth sack. he would also have bellicheck withdrawls.

Culpepper might do decent.

Manning would be nowhere without those recievers and the OLine, and would never get settled in. (not knocking our recievers)

Eli and Big Ben: 2 rookies with entirly diffrent seasons, both will have a hard time this year. Neither right for Houston.

i might trade Delhomme for Carr, he's got poise under pressure.


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Laughable. Can we say "Product of the system?"
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For sure's
Manning
McNabb
Culpepper
Green
Brady

Maybe's
Brees
Pennington

The only one's that are that much better than Carr right now.
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About 10 guys on the list plus Matt Leinart, Vinny Young and Reggie McNeil.

If the Texans go 4-10 and Carr plays like he did the last half of last year it will be time to start looking elsewhere.
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About 10 guys on the list plus Matt Leinart, Vinny Young and Reggie McNeil.
Why don't we just move Jammal Lord back to QB?
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