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Old 08-26-2005   #1
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If I offered you any of these guys straight up for Carr, who would you take?

Bears: Chad Hutchinson
Bengals: Carson Palmer
Bills: J.P. Losman
Broncos: Jake Plummer
Browns: Trent Dilfer
Bucs: Brian Griese
Cardinals: Kurt Warner
Chargers: Drew Brees
Chiefs: Trent Green
Colts: Peyton Manning
Cowboys: Drew Bledsoe
Dolphins: Gus Frerotte
Ealges: Donovan McNabb
Falcons: Michael Vick
Giants: Eli Manning
Jaguars: Byron Leftwich
Jets: Chad Pennington
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Niners: Alex Smith
Packers: Brett Favre
Panthers: Jake Delhomme
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Rams: Marc Bulger
Ravens: Kyle Boller
Redskins: Patrick Ramsey
Saints: Aaron Brooks
Seahawks: Matt Hasselbeck
Steelers: Ben Roethlisberger
Titans: Steve McNair
Vikings: Daunte Culpepper

..........

For Sure:
Manning
McNabb
Culpepper

Maybe:
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Vick
Green

No Way:
Favre (too old)
McNair (too old & beat up)
Hutchinson
Losman
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Griese
Warner
Bledsoe
Frerotte
Eli Manning (unproven)
Harrington
Smith (unproven)
Boller
Ramsey
Brooks

The rest would be a push, so I wouldn't trade for them either. So out of 31 QBs, there's only six I would even think about taking over Carr.
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Do I take it that is one your hobbies?

Manning and Brady. The rest, you can keep.
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I would take boller.
In order to guarantee a high draft spot to get a new quarterback and no serious cap hit toget rid of boller.

Otherwise, I would keep Carr.
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Palmer, Brees, Green, Manning, McNabb, Vick, E.Manning, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, Brady, Roethlisberger, McNair, Culpepper...

Not to try to be a total arse, but IMHO, I would take all fo these guys over Carr...
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Manning
McNabb
Culpepper
Brady
Vick

David has all the tools to be an elite QB. If they can protect him better I think he'll have a great season. There's no shame to having a guy better than you that's been doing it longer and with better teams.
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Palmer, Brees, Green, Manning, McNabb, Vick, E.Manning, Leftwich, Pennington, Favre, Brady, Roethlisberger, McNair, Culpepper...

Not to try to be a total arse, but IMHO, I would take all fo these guys over Carr...

I'd hate for you to be my GM...why would you ever take Favre or McNair over Carr? In their prime, yes...not now.

And Eli Manning has done nothing, so other than his name, I don't see why you would take him over Carr either.
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Definite
Manning
McNabb
Culpepper
Brady
Vick

Probable
Green
Hasselbeck
Pennington

Maybe
Bulger
Palmer
Eli Manning
Roethlisberger
Delhomme
Leftwich
Brees


Probably not
Smith
Losman
Warner
Harrington
Boller
Ramsey
Brooks
Griese
Collins - not with our line
Plummer

Definitely Not
Favre - age
McNair - age
Hutchinson
Dilfer
Frerotte
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For sure I'd take Manning, Culpepper McNabb and Brady. I love Carr and think that he can be good... if not better than all of these QBs... the numbers just dont show it as of yet. Vick is an amazing athlete and if we would of come into the league a year earlier he would be wearing a Texans uniform. He's just not an amazing QB yet. Last year he did have a career high in completion percentag... something around 51%. That's just not gonna get it done. Pennington remindes me a lot of Carr. There's just something about him that I dont like... cant really put my finger on it. I also think that Ramsey could end up being an elite QB in the NFL when given stability with the coaching staff and a few more weapons on offense.
To be honest though, I dont believe even the Elite QBs could of done much of a better job than Carr has done with this offense over the last few years. Manning and Brady would of been on their backs more than Carr. Culpepper and McNabb would of been interesting to watch try and run our offense with 11 defenders pulling at their shirttails.
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...David has all the tools to be an elite QB. If they can protect him better I think he'll have a great season. There's no shame to having a guy better than you that's been doing it longer and with better teams.
Amen! Although not the best in the NFL, we're fortunate to have him... a class act who has remained healthy even though he's been pretty much naked every week in his first 3 seasons.

As his protection grows, so will his confidence, leadership, and QB rating. I really believe this is inevitable, can't wait.
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Who says there is no optimism around here?
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I'd hate for you to be my GM...why would you ever take Favre or McNair over Carr? In their prime, yes...not now.

And Eli Manning has done nothing, so other than his name, I don't see why you would take him over Carr either.
Well that makes two of us...
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...And Eli Manning has done nothing, so other than his name, I don't see why you would take him over Carr either.
my thoughts exactly, I was fixin to blast him but when I compared his stats vs Carr's first year stats, E. Manning's were not that bad. But then again the Giants were not a first year expansion team either.
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Brady .... No one else over Carr


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#1. Vick
#2. Brady
#3. Manning
#4. Culpepper

Carson Palmer, and Ben Rothlisberger are close, but I keep Carr.
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Nobody...I'll stick with our hard nosed driven QB.
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love david carr, but realistically cannot say that i wouldnt take mike vick or peyton manning....heck, i think even the patriots would take manning straight up for brady, he is the best qb in the nfl, and its not even close
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Certainly:
P. Manning
McNabb
Culpepper

Possibly:
Plummer
Green
Delhomme

No Chance:
Vick
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If anyone wants a Vick at QB, just get a stud RB and move him to QB and he might even have better passing accuracy than Vick.
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love david carr, but realistically cannot say that i wouldnt take mike vick or peyton manning....heck, i think even the patriots would take manning straight up for brady, he is the best qb in the nfl, and its not even close
Hell with the folks they have around Manning most QGs would look great also, not to take anything away from Peyton. Don't forget we have been building a franchise around a young qb so he is going to develop slower that someone like manning. I really don't see Manning waking in the middle of the night dreaming about being sacked AGAIN.

Carr had had a MUCH MUCH tougher introduction into the league that Manning did.
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I would take boller.
In order to guarantee a high draft spot to get a new quarterback and no serious cap hit toget rid of boller.

Otherwise, I would keep Carr.

Funniest thing ive heard in a while
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