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Old 08-19-2005   #21
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I agree with that. You can barely criticize him unless he starts saying worse things than that.



Exactly. The preseason is too early to make a case against the guy. Until the season starts, the games mean almost nothing unless you're a backup. So don't be judging the starters too harshly.
Hey did you know that Buchanon played with the Raiders and that you could have watched him on TV??? This whole TV thing is crazy, you can actually watch players player the game. Ingenious! Oh wait, Buchanon entered the "space port" in Houston and wala! he's a new p layer!
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Since I have not personally met with Buchanon I will not say he is a "me first" type of player. I just want to see a couple of interceptions returned for TD's this season. Hopefully they are against the Colts.
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Pre-season is important for Buchanon this year. He has to learn a new defense and get to where he reacts without having to think about his assigment. I agree with his statment about kick and punt returns. No need for him to fight for that position. I've never liked the idea of a starting position player returning kicks. I will hold off making a judgment on the Buchanon trade till after the season. I have a feeling he is going to start off the season with some mistakes. How he handles the criticism will make or break him. Buchanon doesn't give the company line, he tells it like it is; A lot like Charles Barkley.
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What cracks me up are those who think they can grade DBs by watching games on TV or replays of those games, catching a few glimpses of coverage only when the ball is thrown the direction of a defender in question. People will see one blown coverage and knee jerk all over the place while they are oblivious to the other ten coverages that were perfect. Unless you have access to coaches tape or you're sitting in the stands focusing on a certain player (DBs especially, LBs also to some degree), it's pretty tough if not downright impossible for joe fan to make some of the player evaluations I see on this forum from time to time.

Rise above it dalemurphy, there's a lot of comic relief on this board when you get right down to it.

For some real insight: Justice on Buchanon

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What cracks me up are those who think they can grade DBs by watching games on TV or replays of those games, catching a few glimpses of coverage only when the ball is thrown the direction of a defender in question. People will see one blown coverage and knee jerk all over the place while they are oblivious to the other ten coverages that were perfect. Unless you have access to coaches tape or you're sitting in the stands focusing on a certain player (DBs especially, LBs also to some degree), it's pretty tough if not downright impossible for joe fan to make some of the player evaluations I see on this forum from time to time.

Rise above it dalemurphy, there's a lot of comic relief on this board when you get right down to it.

For some real insight: Justice on Buchanon


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What cracks me up are those who think they can grade DBs by watching games on TV or replays of those games, catching a few glimpses of coverage only when the ball is thrown the direction of a defender in question. People will see one blown coverage and knee jerk all over the place while they are oblivious to the other ten coverages that were perfect. Unless you have access to coaches tape or you're sitting in the stands focusing on a certain player (DBs especially, LBs also to some degree), it's pretty tough if not downright impossible for joe fan to make some of the player evaluations I see on this forum from time to time.

Rise above it dalemurphy, there's a lot of comic relief on this board when you get right down to it.

For some real insight: Justice on Buchanon
You are correct sir!! If you don't see your CB on TV they must be doing a good job, cause they aren't throwing at him.

PS: Nice article also.
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Hey did you know that Buchanon played with the Raiders and that you could have watched him on TV??? This whole TV thing is crazy, you can actually watch players player the game. Ingenious! Oh wait, Buchanon entered the "space port" in Houston and wala! he's a new p layer!

if I picked what Buchanon can do.. Only time I really watched him,was that year the Titans played them and He tore them up.
of course that was a few years back
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Old 09-20-2005   #28
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For all of those that attacked me in this thread. All together now:

"This Sky is Falling"
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Old 09-20-2005   #29
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Wow.

Noooooooooooooooooobody is returning to own up for their comments.

Nicely stated, SES.

That just goes to show that people blah-blah-blah and worry more about being politically correct to fit in with the rest of the gang instead of analyzing his past play and calling it the way it ought to be called.

Anyway, I'm glad you came back to the topic to show how much of a 180-degree change the outlook on Buchanon has undergone recently.
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Wow.

Noooooooooooooooooobody is returning to own up for their comments.

Nicely stated, SES.

That just goes to show that people blah-blah-blah and worry more about being politically correct to fit in with the rest of the gang instead of analyzing his past play and calling it the way it ought to be called.

Anyway, I'm glad you came back to the topic to show how much of a 180-degree change the outlook on Buchanon has undergone recently.
huh? I think I stated that I would rather base my opinion on his play than on spec. Some of you guys are unreal. Call me a homer all you want but you don't know what you are talking about. When he plays poorly in reality we can dog him based on reality. Anything other than that is spec. Good for ses on this but most people were down on pbuc. Some other people just wait to form hard opinions.
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Old 09-20-2005   #31
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Vin,

you put THE SKY IS FALLING and had it linked to a clip of (Shatner?) as if SES was out of his mind.

it was funny, don't get me wrong.

but I thought your attempt with that post was to pile onto SES.

Nothing personal, just the way I see it.

For the record, because i don;t think I ever made comments on it at the time...I didn't form a hard opinion on Buchanon during camp. But his play against Oakland and Denver made my mind up really quick. He did the same thing against an Oakland WR that he did against a RB of the Broncos: Both ball carriers came around the end of the line and Buchanon dove to the inside of the WR and the RB on both plays, almost a mirror image. If you have it on tape, watch it to see what I mean. He really wanted to lay a hit on both players, but it was as if he had vision problems and had no depth perception on both plays. That's when I was like, "Oh great.........."

Dude is not gonna' be a vital part of the defensive backfield for any team...ever.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell SES "good job" and I probably overdid it a bit. Sorry.
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Pburnt is the next deon. Without all of the coverage skills ofcourse
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There are several things this offseason that the Texans did wrong, this is just one of them. It's not like nobody hasn't seen PBurnt play, he had a few years in Oakland for everyone to size up his play. The thing that stuck out the most to me was that Oakland switched to a 3-4 and Buchanon got burnt even more. Then we bring him in to be our #1 CB???

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