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Old 08-19-2005   #1
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This is for those who dont believe in those draftees of this year...

Letsee... Cass and comp picked... ummm

Donte Robinson - You have to admit this was a awesome pick
Jason Babin - He has done a very good job
Andre Johnson - I dont even have to say anything
David Carr - Bah... still dont need to say anything
Peek- Starting this year
Dom Davis - Diamond in the rough
Wells - Still a decent back and great ST er
need I go on... The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.

This year, we picked up more winners... So please quit commenting on who we should have got when you dont have a clue what these picks will do. They have a great track record for finding talent.
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Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?
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Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?
Look at what he's had to put up with. Considering that, his numbers are REALLY good, especially for his first 3 yrs. Besides, we don't expect him to be Payton Manning.
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Look at what he's had to put up with. Considering that, his numbers are REALLY good, especially for his first 3 yrs. Besides, we don't expect him to be Payton Manning.
Yeah, I have a lot of faith in the kid too, but there's still some questions.

With a new playcalling, and an improved O-line, he will do everything Palmer does, and more.
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Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?
Carr has about as much time to throw the ball as Payton has to call a audible.. only seconds... if we has the colts o-line.. his abilties would show.
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Yea, No Colts fan should come over here and talk about other QBs. Your QB is not on a leash. The Bronco (preSeason) game they finaly let Carr change routes at the line. He only got to change the way the run goes last year. He is a smart guy, I hope they let him off so he can use all his talents.

Carr has the skills, just not the tools Manning has.
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Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?

Has "Big Game" Manning erased any doubt. Sure he's great in the regular season, but then he's nowhere to be found in the big games, well unless he's playing the broncos.
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.............What?
I suspect he means Carr has the skills but not the tools such as a solid OL, Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, etc. that Manning has been fortunate enough to have through virtually his whole career.
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I suspect he means Carr has the skills but not the tools such as a solid OL, Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, etc. that Manning has been fortunate enough to have through virtually his whole career.
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Carr has the skills, just not the tools Manning has.
You dont know that.
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He definitely doesn't have the tools Manning has. Considering what Carr has had, He's done a pretty good job at QB. Manning is a great QB, there aren't many like him, but i don't see why Carr couldn't be in his class in a few years if given the tools.
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Ok, so Carr is Manning without the weapons? I get it.

Tim Couch never had the time to throw, and he never got the weapons, so should he be put in the same class as Carr (and manning)
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Ok, so Carr is Manning without the weapons? I get it.
No he's not and anyone that says he is must be a real homer. Manning makes his entire offense look better.

Could Carr develop into a great QB? Yes but he hasn't proved to be in Manning's league yet.
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The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.
Don't forget about Charles Hill (DT, Maryland in 3rd round). I would say biggest bust of all of them.
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Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady.
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Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady and Marino is no Young.
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Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady.

Brady Vs Manning whats the score ? 7-0 ? Im sure Manning feels like he's :brickwall every time he lines up against the Pats . DC prolly feels the same way when he faces the Dolts .

Brady just gets the job done .... Manning can put up all the numbers but what counts in the end is Superbowl WINS.

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Vick 0 Manning 0 Mcnabb 0 Carr 0 Leftwitch 0................
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All these are null and void if the O-line stinks it up. Fact in the NFL

1) You got to score more points than you oppponent. Carr has no time, lanes are small (we seem to be having strenght issues up front), linemen are offsides ALL THE FREAKIN TIME!

It hard to look at the external, when you know the core is rotten.

WHO KNOWS! MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the line can be decent. I have faith, not much, but I have faith.
Ummmmm... I think a more obvious and true fact is that you need a defense that keeps teams from scoring more than your team. See also Patriots, Ravens, Steelers and most other playoff teams, Super Bowl winners, etc. Most notable excepetion being Indy and look at those playoff flops they've delivered. I'm happy with the 1st teamers. Reserves scare the heck out of me.

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Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady and Marino is no Young.
And none of them are JOE MONTANA!!!!! He is the stud QB all others should be measured against. I'll give a second to Elway. He was a pretty good QB too.
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This is for those who dont believe in those draftees of this year...

Letsee... Cass and comp picked... ummm

Donte Robinson - You have to admit this was a awesome pick
Jason Babin - He has done a very good job
Andre Johnson - I dont even have to say anything
David Carr - Bah... still dont need to say anything
Peek- Starting this year
Dom Davis - Diamond in the rough
Wells - Still a decent back and great ST er
need I go on... The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.

This year, we picked up more winners... So please quit commenting on who we should have got when you dont have a clue what these picks will do. They have a great track record for finding talent.

hmm good post, i like it. Dime
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