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Dime · 08-19-2005

This is for those who dont believe in those draftees of this year...

Letsee... Cass and comp picked... ummm

Donte Robinson - You have to admit this was a awesome pick
Jason Babin - He has done a very good job
Andre Johnson - I dont even have to say anything
David Carr - Bah... still dont need to say anything
Peek- Starting this year
Dom Davis - Diamond in the rough
Wells - Still a decent back and great ST er
need I go on... The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.

This year, we picked up more winners... So please quit commenting on who we should have got when you dont have a clue what these picks will do. They have a great track record for finding talent.

Youngstown Colt · 08-19-2005

Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?

HJam72 · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Youngstown Colt

Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?

Look at what he's had to put up with. Considering that, his numbers are REALLY good, especially for his first 3 yrs. Besides, we don't expect him to be Payton Manning.

Youngstown Colt · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by HJam72

Look at what he's had to put up with. Considering that, his numbers are REALLY good, especially for his first 3 yrs. Besides, we don't expect him to be Payton Manning.

Yeah, I have a lot of faith in the kid too, but there's still some questions.

With a new playcalling, and an improved O-line, he will do everything Palmer does, and more.

Dime · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Youngstown Colt

Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?

Carr has about as much time to throw the ball as Payton has to call a audible.. only seconds... if we has the colts o-line.. his abilties would show.

ATX · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Hulk75

Yea, No Colts fan should come over here and talk about other QBs. Your QB is not on a leash. The Bronco (preSeason) game they finaly let Carr change routes at the line. He only got to change the way the run goes last year. He is a smart guy, I hope they let him off so he can use all his talents.

Carr has the skills, just not the tools Manning has.

ATX · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Youngstown Colt

Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt?

Has "Big Game" Manning erased any doubt. Sure he's great in the regular season, but then he's nowhere to be found in the big games, well unless he's playing the broncos.

**infantrycak** · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Hulk75

.............What?

I suspect he means Carr has the skills but not the tools such as a solid OL, Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, etc. that Manning has been fortunate enough to have through virtually his whole career.

ATX · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by infantrycak

I suspect he means Carr has the skills but not the tools such as a solid OL, Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, etc. that Manning has been fortunate enough to have through virtually his whole career.

exactly

Dime · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by atxcoolguy

Carr has the skills, just not the tools Manning has.

You dont know that.

ATX · 08-19-2005

He definitely doesn't have the tools Manning has. Considering what Carr has had, He's done a pretty good job at QB. Manning is a great QB, there aren't many like him, but i don't see why Carr couldn't be in his class in a few years if given the tools.

Youngstown Colt · 08-19-2005

Ok, so Carr is Manning without the weapons? I get it.

Tim Couch never had the time to throw, and he never got the weapons, so should he be put in the same class as Carr (and manning)

Exascor · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Youngstown Colt

Ok, so Carr is Manning without the weapons? I get it.

No he's not and anyone that says he is must be a real homer. Manning makes his entire offense look better.

Could Carr develop into a great QB? Yes but he hasn't proved to be in Manning's league yet.

V Man · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Dime

The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.

Don't forget about Charles Hill (DT, Maryland in 3rd round). I would say biggest bust of all of them.

08-19-2005

Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady.

Exascor · 08-19-2005

Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady and Marino is no Young.

Corrosion · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by SESupergenius

Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady.

Brady Vs Manning whats the score ? 7-0 ? Im sure Manning feels like he's :brickwall every time he lines up against the Pats . DC prolly feels the same way when he faces the Dolts .

Brady just gets the job done .... Manning can put up all the numbers but what counts in the end is Superbowl WINS.

Brady 3
Vick 0 Manning 0 Mcnabb 0 Carr 0 Leftwitch 0................

DocBar · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Bottle-O-Bud

All these are null and void if the O-line stinks it up. Fact in the NFL

1) You got to score more points than you oppponent. Carr has no time, lanes are small (we seem to be having strenght issues up front), linemen are offsides ALL THE FREAKIN TIME!

It hard to look at the external, when you know the core is rotten.

WHO KNOWS! MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the line can be decent. I have faith, not much, but I have faith.

Ummmmm... I think a more obvious and true fact is that you need a defense that keeps teams from scoring more than your team. See also Patriots, Ravens, Steelers and most other playoff teams, Super Bowl winners, etc. Most notable excepetion being Indy and look at those playoff flops they've delivered. I'm happy with the 1st teamers. Reserves scare the heck out of me.

DocBar · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Exascor

Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady and Marino is no Young.

And none of them are JOE MONTANA!!!!! He is the stud QB all others should be measured against. I'll give a second to Elway. He was a pretty good QB too.

TexansTrueFan · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by Dime

This is for those who dont believe in those draftees of this year...

Letsee... Cass and comp picked... ummm

Donte Robinson - You have to admit this was a awesome pick
Jason Babin - He has done a very good job
Andre Johnson - I dont even have to say anything
David Carr - Bah... still dont need to say anything
Peek- Starting this year
Dom Davis - Diamond in the rough
Wells - Still a decent back and great ST er
need I go on... The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time.

This year, we picked up more winners... So please quit commenting on who we should have got when you dont have a clue what these picks will do. They have a great track record for finding talent.

hmm good post, i like it.

Dime

08-19-2005	#1
Dime Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 1,377 Rep Power: 12	Ye of little faith This is for those who dont believe in those draftees of this year... Letsee... Cass and comp picked... ummm Donte Robinson - You have to admit this was a awesome pick Jason Babin - He has done a very good job Andre Johnson - I dont even have to say anything David Carr - Bah... still dont need to say anything Peek- Starting this year Dom Davis - Diamond in the rough Wells - Still a decent back and great ST er need I go on... The only 2 effective 'busts' are 'Hollings' who has been hurt most of the time in his defense, and Joppru who has been hurt all the time. This year, we picked up more winners... So please quit commenting on who we should have got when you dont have a clue what these picks will do. They have a great track record for finding talent. __________________ You can get more with a 2 by 4 and a kind word then just with a kind word.

08-19-2005	#2
Youngstown Colt All Pro Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Age: 28 Posts: 997 Rep Power: 9	Why don't you need to say anything about Carr? Has he truely erased all doubt? __________________ "If you're flammable and have legs you are never blocking a fire exit." - Mitch

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Youngstown Colt All Pro Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Age: 28 Posts: 997 Rep Power: 9	Ok, so Carr is Manning without the weapons? I get it. Tim Couch never had the time to throw, and he never got the weapons, so should he be put in the same class as Carr (and manning) __________________ "If you're flammable and have legs you are never blocking a fire exit." - Mitch

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ATX Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin Age: 33 Posts: 9,563 Rep Power: 143	He definitely doesn't have the tools Manning has. Considering what Carr has had, He's done a pretty good job at QB. Manning is a great QB, there aren't many like him, but i don't see why Carr couldn't be in his class in a few years if given the tools.

08-19-2005	#15
SESupergenius Guest Posts: n/a	Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady.

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Exascor Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atascocita Posts: 1,156 Rep Power: 4938	Carr is no Manning, but Manning is no Brady and Marino is no Young.

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