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wrestler4life · 08-18-2005

Just have been watching the Saints play the Patriots, and Jammal Brown looks awesome starting at right tackle. Also, the lineman from Fresno St. that the Patriots picked up looked pretty darn good also.

F-minus67 · 08-18-2005

Jammal Brown doesn't have the feet to play LT and Mankins wouldn't get the start over Pitts or Weigert this year. Give Casserly and Capers a little credit, they did pick Carr, AJ, D-Rob and Babins in the first.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 08-18-2005

If I am not mistaken, TJ played fairly well himself in his first preseason game.

dtran04 · 08-18-2005

TJ played much much better than I thought he would. (which is great)

wrestler4life · 08-18-2005

Well, we will see. I just thouht that he looked pretty stinkin good as a starter going up against McGinnist.

**Runner** · 08-18-2005

If he was on our team we'd blast him the first time he got beat in a drill. I'm afraid familiarity breeds contempt with many on this board.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 08-18-2005

The posts on here get funnier and funnier every day. Why the hell would we draft a RT in the 1st round?

ATX · 08-18-2005

Cass has been right on with every pick he's made in the first round. He took Carr over Harrington. AJ fell to us, Drob fell to us and we picked them both up. Babin played well as a rookie. Tj will be the man, just wait and see.

wrestler4life · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS

The posts on here get funnier and funnier every day. Why the hell would we draft a RT in the 1st round?

Oh, I guess that we couldn't move him to LT?!?!
We haven;t been shifting guys around this offseason at all.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS · 08-19-2005

Jammal Brown didn't even play the LT position in college. What makes you think he can in the NFL?

Dionysus22 · 08-19-2005

He played "OK" for the first pre-season game. I saw him take some plays off though. He would have a few great rushes then he'd seem to be waltzing with the guy. He'd have a good punch coming off the line, then we he saw the play was away from him he'd just stop and do this half-a** jog like he was actually pursuing the play. Then on one particular play I saw him fire off the ball and the qb rolled away from him and he just stop and watched him throw. I would expect that from Warren Sapp, someone who is proven in this league but also known to be lazy. Not a rookie trying to justify why we selected him with our first pick. Plus his legs should have been fresh since he was rotating in. But he did cause some damage. Over all I liked what I saw, potential wise, but he needs to do a few extra sprints after practice.

**beerlover** · 08-19-2005

hold on guys, everyone is making valid points but comparing apples to oranges. Travis Johnson has been nothing short of amazing so far, the best DT in the draft plus picked up what should be another HIGH 3rd rd draft pick

Casserlys 1st round track record as the Texans GM has been A+

the key to Johnson will be how he develops his awesome strength/talent & how he focuses & dedicates himself professionally. he can be an All-Pro some day.

wrestler4life, I appreciate your opinion of Brown & Mankins your observations on their play is accurate, they both will be solid tackles in the NFL. upgrades over what we already have? possibly, but not as much as injecting some youth and talent on the D-Line. next year will be more fruitfull for the Texans as far as offensive lineman in the draft.

many of us wanted David Baas for example who went the next pick in the draft after Mankins to the 49ers to play center/guard. the Texans could then have the option of interchanging all thier Guards & rotating Centers as injury's and on the field performance dictated. this must & will be addressed next year, as well adding a young franchise LT

**Lucky** · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by STEEL BLUE TEXANS

Jammal Brown didn't even play the LT position in college. What makes you think he can in the NFL?

What made the Texans think Riley could play LT? They took a chance.

Brown's a very good athlete for a 300+ lb man. The word is that Brown will move to LT for the Saints in '06 after Wayne Gandy is released for cap purposes.

The Texans needed a a young defensive lineman in this draft. Travis is the only defensive linemen on the roster selected by the Texans in the college draft. And if Gary Walker or Seth Payne go down with injuries (again), you'll be glad the Texans picked up Mr. T in the draft. I would have liked to see Jammal in a Texans uni. DJ & Heath Miller would have looked good, too. The Texans had just one 1st round pick. Travis was a good choice.

bckey · 08-19-2005

In other words we drafted need instead of BPA.

**beerlover** · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by bckey

In other words we drafted need instead of BPA.

I prefeer to think of it as BPA at a NEED position

**Lucky** · 08-19-2005

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Originally Posted by bckey

In other words we drafted need instead of BPA.

Just as most every team does.

Bubbajwp · 08-19-2005

Im sorry but no coaches draft bpa do you think a team with peyton manning would draft a QB because he was the best player left. NO

Honoring Earl 34 · 08-19-2005

You can't tell much from one game . Drafts are judged after about three years not three months .

The problem is we had some glaring weaknesses going into the draft . Derrick Johnson would not have addressed any .

Bubbajwp · 08-19-2005

the players you draft also have to fit in your teams scheme

Bubbajwp · 08-19-2005

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Honoring Earl 34 You can't tell much from one game . Drafts are judged after about three years not three months .

You read my mind

08-18-2005	#1
wrestler4life Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Camarillo, Ca. Age: 38 Posts: 318 Rep Power: 9	TJ had better pan out! Just have been watching the Saints play the Patriots, and Jammal Brown looks awesome starting at right tackle. Also, the lineman from Fresno St. that the Patriots picked up looked pretty darn good also.

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F-minus67 Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Middletown,CT Age: 26 Posts: 1,070 Rep Power: 10	Jammal Brown doesn't have the feet to play LT and Mankins wouldn't get the start over Pitts or Weigert this year. Give Casserly and Capers a little credit, they did pick Carr, AJ, D-Rob and Babins in the first. __________________ "Democracy is not for the people." - Judge Dredd

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ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,260 Rep Power: 19464	If I am not mistaken, TJ played fairly well himself in his first preseason game.

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dtran04 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 1,456 Rep Power: 1226	TJ played much much better than I thought he would. (which is great)

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Runner Hubcap Diamond Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,436 Rep Power: 6068	If he was on our team we'd blast him the first time he got beat in a drill. I'm afraid familiarity breeds contempt with many on this board.

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STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	The posts on here get funnier and funnier every day. Why the hell would we draft a RT in the 1st round?

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ATX Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Austin Age: 33 Posts: 9,563 Rep Power: 142	Cass has been right on with every pick he's made in the first round. He took Carr over Harrington. AJ fell to us, Drob fell to us and we picked them both up. Babin played well as a rookie. Tj will be the man, just wait and see.

08-19-2005	#10
STEEL BLUE TEXANS Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Sugar Land, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 5,327 Rep Power: 1832	Jammal Brown didn't even play the LT position in college. What makes you think he can in the NFL?

08-19-2005	#11
Dionysus22 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mo. City, TX Age: 32 Posts: 227 Rep Power: 9	He played "OK" for the first pre-season game. I saw him take some plays off though. He would have a few great rushes then he'd seem to be waltzing with the guy. He'd have a good punch coming off the line, then we he saw the play was away from him he'd just stop and do this half-a** jog like he was actually pursuing the play. Then on one particular play I saw him fire off the ball and the qb rolled away from him and he just stop and watched him throw. I would expect that from Warren Sapp, someone who is proven in this league but also known to be lazy. Not a rookie trying to justify why we selected him with our first pick. Plus his legs should have been fresh since he was rotating in. But he did cause some damage. Over all I liked what I saw, potential wise, but he needs to do a few extra sprints after practice.

08-19-2005	#12
beerlover Site Contributor Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 11,358 Rep Power: 15075	hold on guys, everyone is making valid points but comparing apples to oranges. Travis Johnson has been nothing short of amazing so far, the best DT in the draft plus picked up what should be another HIGH 3rd rd draft pick Casserlys 1st round track record as the Texans GM has been A+ the key to Johnson will be how he develops his awesome strength/talent & how he focuses & dedicates himself professionally. he can be an All-Pro some day. wrestler4life, I appreciate your opinion of Brown & Mankins your observations on their play is accurate, they both will be solid tackles in the NFL. upgrades over what we already have? possibly, but not as much as injecting some youth and talent on the D-Line. next year will be more fruitfull for the Texans as far as offensive lineman in the draft. many of us wanted David Baas for example who went the next pick in the draft after Mankins to the 49ers to play center/guard. the Texans could then have the option of interchanging all thier Guards & rotating Centers as injury's and on the field performance dictated. this must & will be addressed next year, as well adding a young franchise LT

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bckey Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 2,127 Rep Power: 8726	In other words we drafted need instead of BPA.

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Bubbajwp All Flopper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In the Warehouse Age: 25 Posts: 3,198 Rep Power: 139	Im sorry but no coaches draft bpa do you think a team with peyton manning would draft a QB because he was the best player left. NO

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Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Houston Age: 50 Posts: 16,745 Rep Power: 35890	You can't tell much from one game . Drafts are judged after about three years not three months . The problem is we had some glaring weaknesses going into the draft . Derrick Johnson would not have addressed any .

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