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Old 08-14-2005   #1
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I haven't seen anybody (maybe I missed it in another thread somewhere) mention the fact that Denver kept their second-string QB in the game until the fourth quarter. Each time they trotted Van Pelt out there during the third quarter, I kept thinking, "Geez...am I really SEEING this?!"

Had we kept Banks in the game that long, we would have scored more points, and the Broncos wouldn't have done as well as they did.

To me, it was very obvious that the Texans were using this game primarily as a way to experiment different schemes and to really evaluate individual performances.....while it looked as though the Broncos were primarily trying to win the game. I'm not saying that the Broncos didn't use the game to try out different schemes and evaluate players....but it sure seemed like keeping your second-string QB in for 3/4 of the game and just pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, was an attempt to ensure a win first and foremost. If they need the confidence THAT bad, then that's pretty sad.

If I am not mistaken, they also had Ron Dayne in the game the whole time (he broke a long run towards the end of the game). So, there's another example to support my theory.

Anyway, it just makes me mad when I see comments about how "boring the game was," and how "nobody should pay money to see that," such as what someone reported McLame of the Chronic say about last night's game.

1. No season-ending injuries. 2. Good first-team execution on both sides of the ball. 3. We scored two TDs. What else can someone expect for a flippin' pre-season game that doesn't count for anything?

Don't drink the McLame kool-aid. This was by far the best first-game pre-season game we've had, IMO.
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Van Pelt is essentially a rookie with no career NFL starts. He needs the work. Our third string QB has more NFL experience than Van Pelt.

Dayne could be considered their 3rd or 4th string RB behind Bell, Griffin, and Anderson. I don't agree with the assertion that the Broncos somehow left their "better" players in longer than the Texans did and that might have played a factor in the game. It was what it was. The Texans first team offense was good except for the goal line deal and the defense looked pretty good overall.
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Van Pelt is essentially a rookie with no career NFL starts. He needs the work. Our third string QB has more NFL experience than Van Pelt.

Dayne could be considered their 3rd or 4th string RB behind Bell, Griffin, and Anderson. I don't agree with the assertion that the Broncos somehow left their "better" players in longer than the Texans did and that might have played a factor in the game. It was what it was. The Texans first team offense was good except for the goal line deal and the defense looked pretty good overall.
This is how I see it too. I'd have played Van Pelt like they did also. He impressed me. He needed the snaps.
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He's one of those guys that needs to learn to slide otherwise he will have a very short career. He got loose for the long run but he also got hammered another time on a scramble.
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I don't agree with the assertion that the Broncos somehow left their "better" players in longer than the Texans did and that might have played a factor in the game.
When i came home the Texans second team offense was gtting ready to score the 1st TD against what I believe was the first team Broncos D. I think they kept their first team in one or two more series after that. Remember, Plummer threw a TD pass, and that was after the Banks to Murphy connection. Actually they (Broncos) had some of there first team players in the game in the 2nd quarter. We did pretty good considering our starters only saw one drive compared to a whole quarter by the Broncos.
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I don't think they should charge regular season prices for these games, but the fans ought to know it will be like this. Hey, I guess if they can sell 'em.
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I can understand why they played Van Pelt and Dane so much, but it does kind of explain why we lost, too, ya know.
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Van Pelt and Dayne had nothing to do with the fact that the Texans offense gained only 40 yards on 27 plays on 7 'drives' that yielded 6 punts and only 3 first downs during one of the more inept and hideous stretches of football I've seen in a while, beginning late in the second quarter and lasting until late in the fourth....


... of course I'm sure that's because the Broncos kept their front line defensive players in the game longer too.

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No, but they did help their offense avoid having some of the same problems. 3rd string teams usually don't score much, even against 3rd string defenses.
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ok i also thought plummer and the starting offense of Denver played 2 series longer than our starting O. I think the Old coach is to concerned with winning meaningless pre-season games. But it is obvious that we still need to improve on our depth, but our starting groups on O and D looked very solid.
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Pretty sad when people are blaming any loss on Bradlee Van Pelt and Ron Dayne.

Plummer played three series. Carr played one. Our first team D played great the first two series. I remember looking at the scoreboard late in the first quarter and seeing the lopsided stats: Texans 6 first downs to the Broncos 1. I also remember looking at the scoreboard late in the third quarter and seeing the Texans with only one more first down.

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Pretty sad when people are blaming any loss on Bradlee Van Pelt and Ron Dayne.

Plummer played three series. Carr played one. Our first team D played great the first two series. I remember looking at the scoreboard and looking at the lopsided stats - Texans 6 first downs to the Broncs 1.

well sice the first team O and D will be the the ones playing this season we should have a lot to look forward to !
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Pretty sad when people are blaming any loss on Bradlee Van Pelt and Ron Dayne.
Depends on who's playing against them.
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we always lose against the broncos in pre-season so i'm not to concerned, plus i'm very pleased with what i saw from our team !!!!!
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one of the more inept and hideous stretches of football I've seen in a while
Hey AJ, this is the first football of any kind those of us on this side of the Atlantic
have seen for a while (actually about 6 months).
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Hey AJ, this is the first football of any those of us on this side of the Atlantic
have seen for a while (actually about 6 months).

unless u like arean football "which i hate"
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Depends on who's playing against them.
They were playing against Babin, DeLoach, Simmons, Anderson, Faggins, Orr, Bell, Evans, and others who have nearly as much or in some cases more experience as they do.
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unless u like arean football "which i hate"
Call that football ?
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They were playing against Babin, DeLoach, Simmons, Anderson, Faggins, Orr, Bell, Evans, and others who have nearly as much or in some cases more experience as they do.
Then they're lack of experience must not be hurting them much.
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Call that football ?

na its more like ungraceful ballet. i have watches one quarter of one gam,e and wanted to vomit.
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