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Old 08-14-2005   #1
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Default Does Capers intentionally try not to win Preseason Games?

The Texans are 2-12 in preseason games.
Not that it matters, it's preseason.
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Old 08-14-2005   #2
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How do you blame Capers for this one. Four chances on the one and no points, score a TD there and we win the game. He is not blocking nor running the ball.
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How do you blame Capers for this one. Four chances on the one and no points, score a TD there and we win the game. He is not blocking nor running the ball.
Yes, but remember they only had 4.625 minutes to practice that play on two different days.
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i think the goalline situation was nothing more than extra practice for robaire at fullback. this is just a test, no need to worry, i think in a real game we might have tried a pass somewhere in there. did they just run that play left side, right side, left side, right side? no need to worry here
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Actually, if you look at that play, it could be a QB naked boot leg, a throw to a WR like Kasper or AJ if the defense moves up, or just a flat power running play. That play should be a no brainer. Lombardi would turn over in his grave if you told him you couldn't make 1 yard in that kind of situation. I know you would practice until you could if he was the coach.
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since some of us are up so late....here is a quote from the chron

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"I'm not trying to make excuses for our guys or anything, but we had two plays for the goal line," Carr said. "We didn't expect to run four down there. So we had to double up a couple of times."
alot of people are putting too much into those 4 plays when there is so much more to take away from the game. well, for the coaching staff at least.
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Two plays for the goal line? Am I misunderstanding or did he just say a 'power run team' had two plays for a goal line situation? I know it's preseason, but surely there's a couple more basic sets that could have been tried.
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They go into preseason with a set number of plays to run I think.
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I hate pre-season games. Too many people getting hurt. Rookies throwing their bodies around trying to get noticed. I believe the the Eagles pre-season record is similar to the Texans. The only people that care about PS are the coaches and they don't care about wins and losses, they just want to see how the team will react in different situations.
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I know I'm in the minority on this, but I do think preseason games help set a winning or losing tone for the upcoming season. It's no accident, for instance, that the Broncos have only had 1 losing preseason during Shanahan's 10 year tenure (2-3 last year) and they are regular playoff participants. Conversely our preseason and postseason records speak for themselves. I hope the coaches and players start to take more pride and begin to establish a winning tradition sometime in the near future.
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Maybe you can hire Spurrier! :brickwall
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I could careless if we are 0-14 in the preseason. It means nothing to me. It is just a time to evaluate talent and get your timing down.

I was just throwing out the question. Do you think Capers focuses less on winning during preseason than some of the other coaches do?

For the record I like Capers and think he is doing a fine job as Head Coach. I don't blame him for doing a thing wrong in the game yesterday. The only mistake a coach can make in a preseason game is over playing a starter, and that guy gets injured. Capers pulled out guys early in this first game as he should.
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Last year New England and Philadelphia both went 1-3 in the preseason.
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If you have been watching the NFL for even only a couple years, you should know by now that winning or losing preseason games are meaningless. What
is meaningful is how the regular units play when they are in the game.
Last night there was only one significant disappointment from those units -
the offense failing to get in from the one on four straight attemps. Not sure
what that was about, but figuring it out will be a top priorfity this week for
Capers & Co. The other thing that's important is individual performanes by
new players to the team (especially draft picks and top FAs), but that's not so much a team. But the final score doesn't men squat - no reliable history of positive correlation between preseason and regular season records.
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The first preseason game is a glorified scrimmage. I don't know why people question stuff like strategy in this kind of game. It's a game so they can get certain plays on film.
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The teams have created their own monster on this one. If the owners are going to treat it like a regular season game, ie. charge regular season game pricing, than the fans have a right to expect to see thier teams best performance and players. What would solve this is to charge a much lower price for the pre-season games. It seems to me the owners want it both ways. Loyalty is a two way street, but their is no end to the greed, and as usual the fans are the real losers.
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Capers put together a lousy 3rd string team.. fire his arse!

God, even I've never been this bad and firing the coaches was my signature!

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Sad for the fans, especially season ticket holders, because they have to buy all the preseason games to get the games that count. Not good. But thats just the way it is.

The first preseason game is to evaluate people and positions. However, it could be a way to create momentum and confidence for the coming season, like it undoubtedly did for Denver. Have we ever beat Denver? If we are going to have a winning season, why not start now?
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I hope the goalline failure was a wakeup call for Capers and his entire staff. You CANT take, arguably, one of the worst offensive lines in the league, go to an I formation, and run the ball up the middle 4 times !! Name me ONE successful NFL team that does this on a consistent basis.... You can ? hmm 1 out of of 32.. tells ya something doesn't it.
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