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Old 08-14-2005   #21
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Wells pulled something in his hand. Nothing serious.

I was a little discouraged that with 4 attempts at the ONE YARD LINE we couldnt punch it in. David Carr talks about having a package built for that situation this year, but still, the fact that your front cant move their front one yard, in 4 attempts is a little discouraging.

Matt Murphy is soon to be the starter. He can block, and we all saw him catch.

Our overall Offense has me excited. We had no problem moving the ball down the field. I think we will have great sucess as a pass/run team, and not just pass, or run.
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Matt Murphy is soon to be the starter. He can block, and we all saw him catch.
I've been wondering if Murphy's TD catch was just kinda one of those
preseason flukes, or maybe the most significant play of our first preseason
game. With all the bad luck the team has had at TE because of poor ole
Bennie Joppru injuries, it sems like we deserve some good luck from an unexpected source at that position. Could Murphy really be ready to challenge for the the starting job at TE ?
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Wells pulled something in his hand. Nothing serious.

I was a little discouraged that with 4 attempts at the ONE YARD LINE we couldnt punch it in. David Carr talks about having a package built for that situation this year, but still, the fact that your front cant move their front one yard, in 4 attempts is a little discouraging.

Matt Murphy is soon to be the starter. He can block, and we all saw him catch.

Our overall Offense has me excited. We had no problem moving the ball down the field. I think we will have great sucess as a pass/run team, and not just pass, or run.
I dont think Davis is the answer for goalline plays.. I think Wells would have had more sucess.
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I've been wondering if Murphy's TD catch was just kinda one of those
preseason flukes, or maybe the most significant play of our first preseason
game. With all the bad luck the team has had at TE because of poor ole
Bennie Joppru injuries, it sems like we deserve some good luck from an unexpected source at that position. Could Murphy really be ready to challenge for the the starting job at TE ?

I just saw a clip of Carr being interviewed saying Matt Murphy does this all the time in practice.
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I dont think Davis is the answer for goalline plays.. I think Wells would have had more sucess.
Other than a roster saying Wells weighs 30 more pounds, what has he ever done to hint he would be a better goalline runner? He has never run as hard as DD and hasn't demonstrated any greater ability in short yardage situations over the past two years. Kudos to Wells for running much harder last season and yesterday, but he has been playing catch up to run anywhere near as hard as DD in the 1st place.
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It's obvious Ragone is an MVP canditite.....in NFL Europe. Playing against that grade of D, he might excel. In America, he is a 3rd stringer at best. In my mind, it's official. Using a 3rd rounder on Ragone was a mistake, and a bust. He cannot even excel againt NFL 2nd and 3rd stringers. What will he do against 1st team defenses if the need arose? I shudder to think.

Symons is not NFL ready, even as a 3rd stringer. Maybe they can stash him one more yr on IR after the shoulder injury. I think he deserves one more shot, but he is fading fast as far as a possible NFL career.

I have been holding out hope for Ragone. No more

IMHO We need to find the eventual replacement for Banks and the replacement is not currently on the team.
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I had to watch the game at home.....Any pics of the wardrope malfunction??????ANYONE??????As far as Peek,After watching the replay on the offsides call...the ref blew the call,the Bronco was def moving back before Peek jumped...he was moving so quick on the snap,it just looked like he was off sides.We will be alright......cant wait till the first teamers are on for the full game....very promising on both sides of the ball.I think Morency was a little nervous,he will get it together before its all said and done.Sure was good to see our boys back on the field.
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Anybody pay any attention to Hodgdon ? Yea, he got a couple of penalties,
but he's a rookie playing in his first NFL game and he'd be tight. Initially I was concerned about him being undersized, but nevertheless he looked real good on a couple plays, looked quick and aggressive. Now I'm not jumping to any conclusions and saying he's ready to start or anything, but we do need some quality reserves in the line and since this guy can play center and guard, he
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As far as Peek,After watching the replay on the offsides call...the ref blew the call,the Bronco was def moving back before Peek jumped...he was moving so quick on the snap,it just looked like he was off sides.
One of the guys on 610 said it was absolutely a blown call after the game last night.
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Both 1st string offense and defense looked good. If you watched Buch on the plays he diden't get beat, he was all over his man, their going to get beat... they just have to not get beat that often =) I think Buch is better at short passes, where he can use his quickness, instead of his long speed. Lelie is fast as hell, I don't think even Buch can keep up with him. I wanted to see more pass rushing out of Peek, but one thing I saw was he diden't bite on a PA fake and he moved out to cover the qb and jumped up and almost tipped the pass. Peek showed great awareness, just not great pass rushing =) yea he did get devoured by the OT alot, but what OLB in a 3-4 doesen't have that happen to them? I don't think Capers blitzed as much as he usual would in a regular game. Babin looked good, made some good tackles. I hope we show better pash rush than we did last night though...
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I wanted to see more pass rushing out of PeekI hope we show better pash rush than we did last night though...
They are gonna save the good stuff for the rook QB in Buffalo on 9/11 (Whoa-
just realized that will be the 4 yr anniversiry of "the" 9/11 !). You will see blitzing out the wazoo from Peek, Babin, & Co on that day. Oh we'll see a few
things between now and then, more than last night, but you'll have to wait for the regular season in September for the real show.
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Peek showed great awareness, just not great pass rushing =) yea he did get devoured by the OT alot, but what OLB in a 3-4 doesen't have that happen to them?
What OLB period doesn't have that happen to them? Not you specifically, but IMO a lot of people don't really realize how relatively rare sacks are. The top two OLB's in the league for sacks last year managed 10.5 and 10 sacks. That was on 501 and 607 passing plays. Heck the best DE in the league got 16 sacks on 557 passing plays. The vast majority of the time, the OT will win.
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Last night was my first ever Texans game I have ever been too, I do agree we need to find a better backup QB other then Tony Banks and Ragone. And I do agree Wells should have been put in on the goal line to get the TD then use DD who could not get in. All in all I did see alot of improvement. Now us fans need to get into it. I heard 2 guys say 2 season tickets for sale its going to be a long one, and personally its too early to give up on the Texans. I had a blast and I WILL be going back to another Texans game and I cannot wait to support my team!!!!!!!!
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easy there ibar.

first of all, gaffney will play this season and they have not inserted him into a game because of the contact. i would much rather him ease his way back than shove him in to get playing time like everyone else. dont worry, there is no conspiracy here.

what is the situation with wells being injured? i did not hear about that. i thought he did really well and think he is our #2 RB while playing #2 FB also.

alot of these injuries are just precautions for keeping full contact minimal. most of these guys would be playing if this were the regular season.

as far as the offense, i did see some things different, but im not offensive guru to where i could tell you many of the changes and schemes they showed. adding to that, we ran basic offense. here are a few observations i took note of: the audibles were not run to the right, we set up bootlegs well with the runs, they tried wells at FB, and lots of communication between the linemen. i also think they are commiting to getting some yards rather than an incomplete, and by that i mean carr moving around and throwing a shorter route rather than a deep ball.

the reason we did well on our 1st series is because our first stringers were in there. there is a problem with depth but that is no reason to say we are the same team as last season that has no consistency.

and btw, as a texan fan, im always excited to see them play - even if some think we are boring to watch.
Yea, he injured his finger and will have to see a hand specialist. I forget who else has that problem on the Texans. Thank you for posting your observations and discussing what you saw. I'm nervous about accepting one series as a statement of how we are doing. If you look at the previous years, you will find we often do well on the 1st series, the other team adjusts, and then we struggle. I think we needed to play more than 1 series with our 1st team offense, but Capers has a problem with injuries and we have no depth. Its true we want to evaluate players, but I think they are scared to death of injuries like Wiegert suffered. That one injury potentially blows the whole season and everything they were working on. McClain said they were indeed thinking about moving McKinney to Guard and Washington to center, but that the Wiegert injury may nix that. I don't think anybody has seen any bright spots out of our backup O-linemen other than perhaps the new young center. He's a ways away, however, from being a lot of help.
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We are one of the better red zone scoring teams in the AFC. Don't get all worked up because DD got stuffed. I don't recall that happening in a real game on the 1 yard line.
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RoSmith was blowing people away at FB but we don't know if he was blowing up the right guy.

Wells didn't run very impressively. He has no explosion and is slow in the hole.

Morency looks shot out of a cannon when he gets the ball. He is going to be very explosive when he gets the feel for this scheme and learns to make one cut and go north and south.

Most of the QB pressure was coming from the inside again. I saw the reserve Guards getting lit up all night.

The overall team speed looks improved and our first team O-line was moving players off the LOS. I'm very upbeat about yesterday....got me very excited about our potential.
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yeah, the 4 stuffs on the 1 yard line was more of an experiment in my opinion. we had robaire playing fullback and after watching some tape, he hit whoever he hit hard, but sometimes he should have hit somebody else on the lead block. i think if norris was in there, we would have scored. no need to get worried on this one. all capers did was run 2 plays . we did something like left side, right side, left side, right side. probably just wanted to see which side would be best to run that play on. i think if this game meant something, the play calls would have been different.
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after that first play where Robaire blocked Lynch, after the whistle Lynch was saying something to him. I wonder what he was saying....
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Now the bad:
Morency is not ready to play...yet. He has some pretty impressive talent for sure. He can cut on a dime, has impressive accelration, and the speed to turn the corner if needed. However, he was dancing way too much, and didn't always take the best path thru the d, often trying to bounce outside, when a move more up the gut would have been called for. He needs to develop a bit more patience, let his blocks develop, make his cut, and move thru the hole. In time, I think he has starters talent. Right now, I see him 3rd or even 4th on the depth chart with the talent we have now at RB.
Morency was our most impressive runner tonight if you are looking at sheer running ability and talent. EASILY. He missed one hole and laid the ball on the ground but he was easily our most explosive back as he was running with the second team unit. He just explodes out of his stance and he is going to be the future lead back here imo. That was his first rookie action. Game film and a little more scheme learning and he's going to be awesome. Hollings was impressive too, he brings tons of speed to the backfield. Wells may not make this team, he is slow to the hole and his only talent is that he can take a hit.
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Morency was our most impressive runner tonight if you are looking at sheer running ability and talent. EASILY. He missed one hole and laid the ball on the ground but he was easily our most explosive back as he was running with the second team unit. He just explodes out of his stance and he is going to be the future lead back here imo. That was his first rookie action. Game film and a little more scheme learning and he's going to be awesome. Hollings was impressive too, he brings tons of speed to the backfield. Wells may not make this team, he is slow to the hole and his only talent is that he can take a hit.

Wells plays alot of special teams too. sure he's slow, but even then he still managed to get yards. i just don't see wells not making the team. he's too versatile.
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