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Old 08-02-2005   #1
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I hear Capers say good things, I hear OL coach saying it is improving, but hear posters who were there Saturday that OL stunk. So which is it they are improving or they are not improving. Thanks
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OL was bad on Saturday, but better on Monday.

Wand held his own against Peek and Robaire last night pretty well, even to the point where the line coach was praising him.

Victor Riley still needs to work...alot. I'd be scared if he was our left tackle.

Todd Wade looked average.

Zach Weigert looked pretty good, held his own against a couple of linemen on the one on one drills.

McKinney was up and down at times. Hodgdon has a lot to learn as well, and it looked like the line coach was working on the basics with him.

Fred Weary was toasted repeatedly last night by Travis Johnson.

Todd Washington looked pretty impressive last night.
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What I am reading is defense has the edge against the OL. I was reading about Weary getting beat by TJ or wand/riley getting beat by Peek/anderson etc.


well the good thing is that OL has some fllm to watch and learn..
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According to Keith over at HPF.com, Riley replaced Wand last night as the 1st team LT and did a good job in run-blocking but wasn't too good in pass protection...This is definitely disheartening to me because I was hoping Wand would solidify LT this year, but there's still time...Maybe the temporary(?) demotion will light a fire under him...
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According to Keith over at HPF.com, Riley replaced Wand last night as the 1st team LT and did a good job in run-blocking but wasn't too good in pass protection...This is definitely disheartening to me because I was hoping Wand would solidify LT this year, but there's still time...Maybe the temporary(?) demotion will light a fire under him...
I attended practice last night and Wand played well against all comers as far as I could tell as contrasted to an embarassing play captured on tape and repeated by local channels from the previous practice where Peek put a Bull Rush on him and knocked him, and knocked him backwards and flat on his butt. But from what I could see, Wand redeemed himself last night.
While a strong run blocker, all indications are Riley just doesn't have the skills
to be an adequate pass blocker and be our LT. If we don't go with Wand,
FWIT I think Chester P. would be our one and only Plan B for LT, atleast this year.
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I was sitting with Keith when we both saw Peek spin past Riley late in team drills as if his feet were in wet cement. Can't blame Riley too much because he's not a left tackle. What should be worrisome to everyone is that the Texans are rolling him out there to compete for the starting job in the first place. It looks like he can bulldozer but don't ask him to backpedal. He's an older version of Greg Randall. Riley appears to guess at which move will confront him next. Not a good thing for the QB.
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He's an older version of Greg Randall. Riley appears to guess at which move will confront him next. Not a good thing for the QB.

:brickwall At the thought of another Greg Randall on the line.
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that's why i think they'll end up having wand as the starter just to see if the tackle position is surely what we need to target in the first round of next year's draft
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If Chester were to take the starting LT spot, who would be our best option at guard, and would it even be good enough?
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If Chester were to take the starting LT spot, who would be our best option at guard, and would it even be good enough?
That's the key question. The answer is probably no. That's why I expect to see the status quo on the o-line at season start.
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If Chester were to take the starting LT spot, who would be our best option at guard, and would it even be good enough?

Hear Hogsdon is a natural Guard/Center move him to Center let McKinney sit down
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best idea ive heard yet .

Im not looking forward to seeing DC again this season .

If I were DC .... i'd hold out for better a better O-Line !
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Heres what I think we should do for the line if we move them. Move Pitts to left tackle ... move mckinney to left guard ... and washington to center
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Its too bad the center is considered the quarterback of the O-Line it would be a perfect place for a bulldozing run blocker like Riley. It has to be next to impossible to be offsides when your snapping the ball. He'd probably hit his belly with the ball everytime he tried to snap it too.
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How does Garrick Jones look?
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Its too bad the center is considered the quarterback of the O-Line it would be a perfect place for a bulldozing run blocker like Riley. It has to be next to impossible to be offsides when your snapping the ball. He'd probably hit his belly with the ball everytime he tried to snap it too.
You don't see quite as many big fat guys at Center as you will at Guard. Smaller (if you can call it that) guys are able to hike the ball and come off their blocks better than big overstuffed linemen types. I wouldn't read to much into the camp O-line battles until we go full live contact. Lineplay is about contact and how you deal with it. Obviously, feet are important, but we will see Wand's progress or lack of progress once Denver comes to town.
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Obviously, feet are important, but we will see Wand's progress or lack of progress once Denver comes to town.
How did Wand look last preseason? I don't remember much of the preseason talk.
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well keep in mind that by the end of last season pitts was really coming into his own...i truely believe that pitts can be pro bowl material in a couple of seasons at guard not tackle...and vinny hit the verbial nail on the head with the comment on centers needing quick feet...that's why we draft hodgdon...once the kid gets the mental part of the game down he will be our starter at center for the next 7-10 years...i think this guy with pitts is gonna be something really good for us for years to come
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If our line has another bad year.. its time to spend the bucks in FA and get some players on it.

Im all for giving them another shot.. but I dunno if Carr will recover from another bad year.
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Im all for giving them another shot.. but I dunno if Carr will recover from another bad year.
That's my concern. So many people bash on Carr like he needs to make progress, but psycholoically, I don't see how he can get much better when he knows he has time to read to AJ and then dump off. Even on the plays where he does have time, he's probably so spooked, he doesn't react well.
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