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Old 07-20-2014   #21
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If players cant handle media attention then they're mental weaklings and the kid of players you cant win a SB with anyways. But those kinds ok players are generally great kids.

I've had enough of the great kids era. It's time to start getting the winning kids kind of players. If these great kids are great players. great. If these kids are not great kids but great players then sign me up.

Kids gonna do what kids do.
.....and Incognito did what kids do. Also, what he did was beyond politically incorrect. If all he did was something "politically incorrect" I wouldn't care and neither would the media. So, you want a guy with VERY average talent plus the media circus, potentially to the detriment of the team as a whole? Sounds like you want a bad guy in there just for the sake of having a bad guy.
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If players cant handle media attention then they're mental weaklings and the kid of players you cant win a SB with anyways. But those kinds ok players are generally great kids.

I've had enough of the great kids era. It's time to start getting the winning kids kind of players. If these great kids are great players. great. If these kids are not great kids but great players then sign me up.

Kids gonna do what kids do.
And, how many SB's has Incognito won? I can't seem to find that information at the moment. Maybe it's because he's been incognito.
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There is a small but vocal portion of the fanbase thst believes the Texans need a "bad boy" element on the team in order to be successful. That's why we have to see ridiculous questions like this posed every time some misfit becomes avaliable.
Agreed. Some people think the Raiders misfits of the seventies is the only way to produce a winner. But where is Oakland now and how many winners had this kind of element? It's a false premise which needs to be shot down at every sighting.
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I don't care how good a player he potentially is, the media circus he'll bring with him isn't worth it. He'll be a distraction, not help.
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.....and Incognito did what kids do. Also, what he did was beyond politically incorrect. If all he did was something "politically incorrect" I wouldn't care and neither would the media. So, you want a guy with VERY average talent plus the media circus, potentially to the detriment of the team as a whole? Sounds like you want a bad guy in there just for the sake of having a bad guy.
For the recod I don't want Incognito on the Texans. Not because of the reasons like media circus etc.. and I think Incognito is still an above avg LG. However I don't think the Texans are in need of a LG. So they're not a good match.

However my philosophy stands and until McNair changes his philosophy, (Not likely) The Texans will always be behind teams like the Pats/Broncos/Seahawks/SF etc.... who have my philosophy. One that is they will take on any player that will help them win.
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Agreed. Some people think the Raiders misfits of the seventies is the only way to produce a winner. But where is Oakland now and how many winners had this kind of element? It's a false premise which needs to be shot down at every sighting.
Bad analogy Al Davis got old. BTW, I would take a couple of decades of SB contention that the Raiders had.

Look at the Pats/Seattle/Denver/SF in today's game.
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For the recod I don't want Incognito on the Texans. Not because of the reasons like media circus etc.. and I think Incognito is still an above avg LG. However I don't think the Texans are in need of a LG. So they're not a good match.

However my philosophy stands and until McNair changes his philosophy, (Not likely) The Texans will always be behind teams like the Pats/Broncos/Seahawks/SF etc.... who have my philosophy. One that is they will take on any player that will help them win.
Fair enough. For my part I just don't want him and his dirty ways on the team. If they signed him tomorrow I'd feel the same way. However, I would cheer for him if he became a Texan, just wouldn't care for him being here, is all.
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As much as i dislike the guy i do think he would make our offensive line better, why should i care how he treats opposing teams players...
He got dropped because of what he did to his own players.

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Moot issue because we don't need help at guard (especially after using the 33rd overall pick in the Draft for one), what we need is help at tackle, specifically RT.
Bingo.

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If players cant handle media attention then they're mental weaklings and the kid of players you cant win a SB with anyways. But those kinds ok players are generally great kids.

I've had enough of the great kids era. It's time to start getting the winning kids kind of players. If these great kids are great players. great. If these kids are not great kids but great players then sign me up.

Kids gonna do what kids do.
If he was such a "winning kid," he would be signed already.
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If he was such a "winning kid," he would be signed already.
He's been blackballed for what has gone on in lockerrooms for yrs.

But you know that.
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Incognito was kicked off of every team he's ever played on. In all but one case it was midseason.

He started at Nebraska, then was kicked off the team two weeks before the season opener his senior year for brawling with teammates during practice (he was first team all big XII the previous year and expected to be one of the best Centers in CFB). He transferred to Oregon but never made the roster because he did not meet the standards he agreed to when he transferred (he was ordered to take an anger management class and not violate his code of conduct).

He was drafted by the Rams in the third round after not playing football his senior year. In December 2009 he was benched by Spagnulo for headbutting an opposing player twice in a game. He then went on to fight with the coach on the sideline and was cut that week. He signed with the Bills for the remaining three games of the season and they declined to bring him back -- the only team that didn't rid themselves of his presence in the middle of a season. Then he went to Miami, where in 2013 he was suspended and released for the Martin stuff.

Dude fights with his teammates. He fights with his coaches. He gets into fights with random strangers. I don't think every player has to be a choir boy, but this guy's a locker room cancer.
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The guy was the least likable player in the league not named Cortland Finnegan and that was *before* the whole saga with the Dolphins.

He's a repulsive, wretched excuse for a human being. Calling him excrement is a compliment.
Sums up why I voted no. Can't bring myself to cheer for a goon team... or respect their fans. Reminds me too much of Tennessee
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I'd rather they sign Terrell Owens and Jeff Garcia...and I'd be against that (for the record). I think the long and short of the issue is that Incognito is too big a dumbass to sign, regardless of talent.
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No...Dude is a complete turd of a human being
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I'd rather they sign Terrell Owens and Jeff Garcia...and I'd be against that (for the record). I think the long and short of the issue is that Incognito is too big a dumbass to sign, regardless of talent.
They would at least address a need.

If Incognito was a little less of a moron and played RT then I'd be curious and maybe willing to entertain the idea.

Maybe.

Probably not though.
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However my philosophy stands and until McNair changes his philosophy, (Not likely) The Texans will always be behind teams like the Pats/Broncos/Seahawks/SF etc.... who have my philosophy. One that is they will take on any player that will help them win.
Your philosophy is to carp about McNair and Smith no matter what they do. While saying no on Incognito you still use it as proof of inferiority. Of course if they signed him and the entirely predictable personal foul occurred at a critical juncture then Smith and McNair would be wrong for taking a stupid risk on an obvious miscreant.
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They would at least address a need.

If Incognito was a little less of a moron and played RT then I'd be curious and maybe willing to entertain the idea.

Maybe.

Probably not though.
If the need is big enough I'd (personally) give anyone a shot. I used to run a Ford store....hired a guy (salesman) with a bad reputation and fired him in the same week (I needed someone who could make a friggin' car deal). Office ladies didn't like that but it's a similar situation. Performance based industry need performers (I mean, would you go to a Aerosmith concert if Infantrycak stood in for the lead singer?) As long as the contract was structured for a rapid release upon dumbass move I think you could certainly justify the chance. Hell that's how they built the current Bengal team.
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Your philosophy is to carp about McNair and Smith no matter what they do. While saying no on Incognito you still use it as proof of inferiority. Of course if they signed him and the entirely predictable personal foul occurred at a critical juncture then Smith and McNair would be wrong for taking a stupid risk on an obvious miscreant.
Wrong, if McNair/Smith took chances on guys like this I would understand that you have to take the good with the bad and live with it. Talent should win out at all cost. IMHO

2-14 again proves the Texans org has some large problems with the higher ups and to win big there needs to be a change in philosophy. If they don't you can expect more 2-14 in the future. The last draft shows that maybe/hopefully they are beginning to change their talent evaluation processes.

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