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Old 07-08-2014   #341
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Well one answer is picking up the system. Keenum was being fed one system for two seasons and was still repeating the same mistakes. Fitz has picked up new offenses, multiple times, quickly. As a do a better job with a new system for a short time period faster out of the box, Fitz is a better bet.

Not getting the lead on the starting job is not throwing Keenum in the trash bin either. Ask TJ.
I dunno, I can't believe you are saying Harvard guys are smarter than U of H guys infantrycak ?
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Sure will be nice when preseason starts and we can see these QBs in action.

Not to mention all the rest of the "new" stuff like coaches and players and systems.
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Sure will be nice when preseason starts and we can see these QBs in action.

Not to mention all the rest of the "new" stuff like coaches and players and systems.
Which reminds me, if they follow the timeline from last year, we should get some info about open practice sessions in about a week. Last year they announced the open practice schedule on 7-15-13.
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Well one answer is picking up the system. Keenum was being fed one system for two seasons and was still repeating the same mistakes. Fitz has picked up new offenses, multiple times, quickly. As a do a better job with a new system for a short time period faster out of the box, Fitz is a better bet.

Not getting the lead on the starting job is not throwing Keenum in the trash bin either. Ask TJ.
Yeah, that was the only logical reason I could come up with myself. Fitzy must be showing up better in all the chalkboard/classroom sessions.

And I didn't mean to imply that it was O'Brien who was tossing Keenum to the curb. That was more directed at some of our MB friends who keep saying Keenum ain't worth keeping around.
I disagree.
Having said that though, it is time for him to show his worth. He should push ole' Fitzy for the #1 QB spot by mid-to-late season.
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Yeah, that was the only logical reason I could come up with myself. Fitzy must be showing up better in all the chalkboard/classroom sessions.

And I didn't mean to imply that it was O'Brien who was tossing Keenum to the curb. That was more directed at some of our MB friends who keep saying Keenum ain't worth keeping around.
I disagree.
Having said that though, it is time for him to show his worth. He should push ole' Fitzy for the #1 QB spot by mid-to-late season.
If someone isn't making a case to start over him by the end of preseason then I'm thinking it's going to be a long football season.
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And I didn't mean to imply that it was O'Brien who was tossing Keenum to the curb. That was more directed at some of our MB friends who keep saying Keenum ain't worth keeping around.
I disagree.
Having said that though, it is time for him to show his worth. He should push ole' Fitzy for the #1 QB spot by mid-to-late season.
I believe Keenum should be kept around. I hate the mentality of some around here of wanting to chuck developmental guys after 1-2 years, for example drafting late rate developmental QBs every year. That's churning, not development.
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Here are the facts. Fitzpatrick is a mediocre QB, and the Texans are going to have to waste another season rebuilding.
Unless Savage becomes the man.

If Savage proves to be the QB of the future and the defense plays well I will consider this to be a successful season, regardless of W-L record.
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That's exactly the point.
Why toss Keenum to the curb and declare he's hot garbage after an eight-game tryout while being tolerant with nine so-so to sucky seasons of Fitzpatrick? What in those nine years makes anyone think he'll be more than so-so?? Why is it O'Brien can make Fitzy into a stud but there's no hope for Keenum??
TK is having problems with that "math" and so am I.
I'm on board with you and TK. What good is being able to learn an offense quickly if 9 yrs of suckitude doesn't prove you're the guy that cant get the job done.

If Keenum cant beat Fitz out he should be cut and a trade for a stop gap like McGloin will probably happen if the QB play in the preseason stinks.

Trading for McGloin wont stand in the way of Savage's development like a trade for Mallett would have.
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O'Brien was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

He had zero experience with our two backups -- CBA rules -- so he could have no confidence that either had the capability to assimilate his much-more-complex-than-Kubiak's offense that leans much more on QB knowledge/reads. He couldn't know one way or the other, and being forced to start a limiting QB who turns his "multiple" offense into partial-playbook-simple was anathema to the coach

In May, many thought we'd be drafting QB @1-1. Cassel went with Norv Turner, who courted him last year. McCown chose Lovie, who handed him the keys. The 3rd & only guy left was FitzMagic. OB's system was not totally foreign to him, and he has a demonstrated capability to assimilate multiple systems.

There wasn't a QB in the draft who was a day 1 starter in OB's mind, so that was out. So it was either Fitzmagic or total guesswork, and Fitz had more '13 playing time than the other top rated QBs.

So OTAs come around and a decision has to be made between Keenum & Yates. Yates at his best may have looked better than Keenum, but he was up & down and his inconsistency irked OB moreso than Keenum's tendency to hold onto the ball too long/slow to process. So TJ was jettisoned.

OB has that old school coach disdain for rookies. Rookies make rookie mistakes. I doubt we see Savage outside of meaningless snaps to get his feet wet/some NFL game time. If Savage does more than that, it'll be a win -- not that he'll look great as a rookie, but that he picked up all of the offense and earned a start from OB. (Tom Brady was 1/3 for 6 yards in his rookie year.)


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Fitzpatrick’s overall PFF grade last season was an unimpressive +0.4, which was good for 21st among 42 passers who played at least 25% of their teams’ snaps. However if we dig deeper, things improve.

According to Pro Football Reference, he ranked 14th in completion percentage (62.0 percent). That’s not excellent, but it doesn’t support his reputation as an inaccurate passer and matches a career high established in 2011.

In fact, PFF’s Accuracy Percentage (Acc.%), which factors dropped passes, throwaways, and spikes, ranked FitzMagic 8th-best at his position. He beat out Tony Romo, Tom Brady, and Andrew Luck (by a good margin) in the metric.

PFF’s own quarterback rating, which also takes drops, throwaways, and spikes into account, incorporates the work receivers do after the catch. Last season Fitzpatrick ranked 12th, in front of Andy Dalton, Matthew Stafford, Cam Newton, and Luck. When faced with a pass rush, Fitzpatrick was fifth in Accuracy% among passers with 25 percent of his teams’ snaps.

Now contrast Fitzpatrick’s Acc.% with that of his predecessor in Houston. Matt Schaub ranked 29th out of 41 qualifiers. Case Keenum, also mucking things up for the Texans while behind center, finished 37th in the metric. Schaub was the 38th/42 graded quarterback by PFF (-15.9), and Keenum the 33rd (-7.6).
And for the fantasy footballers out there...
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FitzMagic's 2013 interception rate was was poor, but still better than Eli, Cousins, Palmer, Flacco, Cassel, and equal to Jay Cutler and Dalton.

I still wouldn't be surprised to see us pick up another team's droppings at some point if he has some history in this offense, not expecting it. But you need to reboot if you think that guy should be Josh Freeman -- there's more than a few reasons he remains unsigned at 26 going into training camp.
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As bad as FitzMagic is (hopefully was) I am much more comfortable with him starting than Keenum.
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As bad as FitzMagic is (hopefully was) I am much more comfortable with him starting than Keenum.
Me too, but I'm not sure if that means Fitz is that much better or Keenum's just that bad.
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You are using examples of above average to exceptional QB play to try to reach the same conclusion about poor QB play and it fails horribly.
Schaub WAS mentioned. And you could add, Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton, as well
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Yates at his best may have looked better than Keenum, but he was up & down and his inconsistency irked OB moreso than Keenum's tendency to hold onto the ball too long/slow to process. So TJ was jettisoned.QUOTE]

OB personally called you and let you know his feelings about Keenum and Yates? Please keep us informed each time he calls you.
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Yates at his best may have looked better than Keenum, but he was up & down and his inconsistency irked OB moreso than Keenum's tendency to hold onto the ball too long/slow to process. So TJ was jettisoned.QUOTE]

OB personally called you and let you know his feelings about Keenum and Yates? Please keep us informed each time he calls you.
Quite possibly! We have a lot of people that have insight to "ALL THINGS TEXANS", then again there is also the possibility of a local stud hero in effect here. Case is obviously very revered by a lot of local fans.

OB may be trying to implement a whole new identity for the Texans but then again, he doesn't want to alienate a fairly significant group of Texans fans.

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Quite possibly! We have a lot of people that have insight to "ALL THINGS TEXANS", then again there is also the possibility of a local stud hero in effect here. Case is obviously very revered by a lot of local fans.

OB may be trying to implement a whole new identity for the Texans but then again, he doesn't want to alienate a fairly significant group of Texans fans.

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Those are encouraging stats from PFF. We need some encouragement at this point. Fitzpatrick has never really had a good team around him. If AJ gets over his problem, if Foster gets healthy, if the line can get it together...this could be a good team. That's lot of ifs. But at least the numbers suggest that Fitzpatrick can do his job if everyone else is doing theirs.
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Why do you care about the age of a very temporary placeholder? And 30 is a RB age line, not a QB one.
Because the draft/FA is crapshoot. Bringing in a 30 year old place holder is putting all your eggs in one basket... more or less.

An NFL QB is generally who he is going to be by the time he's 30. The odds of Mark Sanchez... or even Josh Freeman turning it around & being a viable place holder are better than Fitzpatrick becoming a true NFL starter.

Whether we like it or not, the future of the Texans QB position looks like Case & Savage, then maybe we get a QB in next year's draft that might pay off. Adding Fitzpatrick to the mix does not change anything, except we're going to watch OB waste 3 or 4 weeks minimum of the regular season with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
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Carolina would do worse without Cam. I believe the steelers have more losses without Polamalu.
Did the Panthers lose Cam in 2012?

Was Roethlisberger not a Steeler in 2013?
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Did the Panthers lose Cam in 2012?

Was Roethlisberger not a Steeler in 2013?
Lol, just trying to show Cak that sometimes missing one player can make or break a team
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