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Old 06-18-2014   #41
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In all honesty, did anyone consider Kubiak installing the Denver offense here in Houston as a fresh new innovative approach? It was a proven system in which he spent his entire coaching career. We knew exactly what we were getting. I personally am still not sure WHAT an OB team will end up looking like, because he has had multiple influences on his coaching style. I am sure that we will see many things from NE, but I just don't think he is trying to be Patriots South. IMHO, of course.
Maybe it's subjective? When something is successful people label it innovative. Sure we knew a style of offense we were getting , but we didn't quite know how it would be implemented. Funny how during a 12-4 season you can watch talking heads call it innovative. 2-14 and suddenly the coaches are no longer genius. My description of innovative here is a reiteration of all the b.s. we heard about kubiak in Denver and upon first arriving here. I know it's been a few years back and ZBS is now so common no one thinks twice about it - but that wasn't always the case.

Before kubiak and the ZBS, we had Capers and "innovative zone dog." Funny how Vic fangio was a chump for us but is brilliant for san Francisco. Now it's "multiples" and flexible schemes catered to specific game plans. Forgive me if I want to wait and see before I shoot my load worshiping O'Brien. He may be the next Lombardi , but I'm not going to crown him based off player quotes and media reports that are not only limited but restricted.
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I'll be happy with 7-9.
I'd be pleasantly shocked if we won 8 or more games this year as well.
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The Texans issues weren't going to be solved in one offseason . Clowney was the best player from a potential standpoint and they took him . If they draft Jimmy G they wouldn't have the best guard blocking for him . If they traded for Teddy B then they might not have Feido or Nix who both give the Texans much needed size and strength . No they took Savage who has as much arm talent as anyone in the draft and got him in the 4th . If it doesn't workout they'll be more QBs next year and he'll have a better OL and defense to help him .
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Maybe it's subjective? When something is successful people label it innovative. Sure we knew a style of offense we were getting , but we didn't quite know how it would be implemented. Funny how during a 12-4 season you can watch talking heads call it innovative. 2-14 and suddenly the coaches are no longer genius. My description of innovative here is a reiteration of all the b.s. we heard about kubiak in Denver and upon first arriving here. I know it's been a few years back and ZBS is now so common no one thinks twice about it - but that wasn't always the case.

Before kubiak and the ZBS, we had Capers and "innovative zone dog." Funny how Vic fangio was a chump for us but is brilliant for san Francisco. Now it's "multiples" and flexible schemes catered to specific game plans. Forgive me if I want to wait and see before I shoot my load worshiping O'Brien. He may be the next Lombardi , but I'm not going to crown him based off player quotes and media reports that are not only limited but restricted.
I completely agree. We'll be innovative in the fact that we won't being seeing the same ol' tired offense based off of play-action - & everyone will be happy to see something different is all.

But talent makes everything better. I suspect that we've got great burgeoning talent on the defensive side of the ball to realize what everyone thinks can happen with the defense & Crennel. On the offensive side, i think we'll have the ability to be much more creative with BO'B's offense, but we won't get to see it on full tilt b/c of our limits in talent until late in the season when i believe Savage will begin starting games for us.

i also think AJ won't be here to see it either...he's gone after this year.
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The Texans issues weren't going to be solved in one offseason . Clowney was the best player from a potential standpoint and they took him . If they draft Jimmy G they wouldn't have the best guard blocking for him . If they traded for Teddy B then they might not have Feido or Nix who both give the Texans much needed size and strength . No they took Savage who has as much arm talent as anyone in the draft and got him in the 4th . If it doesn't workout they'll be more QBs next year and he'll have a better OL and defense to help him .
Arm talent is all well and good, but he's a longshot that may/may not pay off. It's a near certainty he won't pay any dividends this year.

The "there will be more xxx next year" is a story that the Texans didn't need to fall back on with the number of picks they had to play with. The Texans aren't "rebuilding" remember?
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Keenum on Yates "He helped me so much last year. There’s not many people like that. T.J. is a good friend of mine."

Keenum on Yates "I learned a lot from him. I’ve got the utmost respect for him, not just as a player because he’s also a great person."

Keenum on Yates "He busted his tail since before I got here. We made each other better. We competed since the day I got here."

Case Keenum on Art Briles, who recruited him to UH "He’s always been my guy. I’ve got a lot of respect for him as a person and as a coach."


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O'Brien says he still has to make a decision on who the backup QB will be. #Texans

"I have nothing but good things to say about him," O'Brien on Yates. He came in here and worked hard. He's a good pro." #Texans
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O'Brien said it was in the best interest of the team to go with three quarterbacks. #Texans
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Sapp said he's up to 262. More physical OLBs

@PatDStat Whitney Mercilus said he was at 252 lbs last season. Now he is at 260 lbs. #Texans

O'Brien says the next 4 weeks are a huge time for these players. Said they need to stay in their books & come back in great shape

O'Brien views Alfred Blue as a 1st & 2nd back currently, but long term he could develop into a 3 down back. Will contribute on STs.

"TJ Yates, nothing but good things to say about him." - O'Brien
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Briles on OBrien "He did a phenomenal job at Penn State. They overcame so many obstacles. It as an amazing job."

Bill O'Brien was asked if he could still bring in a veteran QB & he said the Texans will always do what is in the best interest of the team

Bill O'Brien says he still has a decision to make on who his backup quarterback will be.

"Mainly because I saw where Case (Keenum) made the team. We got a couple of other guys from Baylor here. Came to say hello"

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Um MT @PatDStat Is there any physical limitations of his QBs that don't allow him to run his offense? O'Brien: "Nope" pic.twitter.com/B8nYMSo0TQ

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Baylor Coach Art Briles caught up with former players Case Keenum, Terrance Lloyd and Chris McAllister prior to #Texans practice.

"I have seen a lot of good things." O'Brien on DeVier Posey. #Texans

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Interesting. So the way I am reading this is, the battle is now between Keenum and Savage to make the team? Which seems kind of silly because we all know they are not going to cut Savage after just drafting him.

Will O'Brien carry 3 QB's into the regular season, or is it possible Keenum gets cut after training camp?
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I hesitate to put very much into what OB is saying about players...........has anyone heard him say ANYTHING significantly critical of ANY player to this point????
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I hesitate to put very much into what OB is saying about players...........has anyone heard him say ANYTHING significantly critical of ANY player to this point????
Because every player has bought in and he knows deep down in his heart this is our year finally!

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There is eerily no mention of anything on our kicking game. I'm afraid to ask. Both of the kickers apparently going into camp have me very nervous.
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Interesting. So the way I am reading this...?
Best guess is Fitz, Keenum, Savage with the possibility of adding a veteran -- released by another team -- to replace one of the three.

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I hesitate to put very much into what OB is saying about players...........has anyone heard him say ANYTHING significantly critical of ANY player to this point????
OB doesn't do his laundry in public. Thinks it's a chickensh!t way to go about your business. "Conversations between me and the player are private." I think we'll witness OB's temper on display when it counts.

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There is eerily no mention of anything on our kicking game. I'm afraid to ask. Both of the kickers apparently going into camp have me very nervous.
Last day of OTAs. Bullock clearly ahead at this point.
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Last day of OTAs. Bullock clearly ahead at this point.
That gives me absolutely no solace.
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Seems there are quite a few pics of OB having one on one interactions with Arian.
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Maybe BOB speaks pterodactyl
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Fitz looks horrible, big time gut, short with bad posture. Hell if he can make the team surely i can, any word on open try outs ?
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