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Old 06-12-2014   #41
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I like both Yates and Keenum and Savage is this years QB pick so i went with Fitz as the odd man out. But I really don't see them going with just 3 QBs before the first round of cuts. There are too many receivers who need someone to throw them the ball.
The thing the coaches have been clearest on is they think 4 is too many.
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I completely disagree with the fans playing a role in decision making because if that's was the case then Manziel would have been drafted.
Right...but then we see Manziel drafted by a team whose owner reportedly was "convinced" by a bum on the street to draft Manziel....Then we hear that Manziel wasn't even the qb they were planning on drafting until the very last minute...Owner's are fans too. Just b/c their influence on the coach matters more than ours doesn't mean that it's no less fan influence that can affect coaching decisions.

You don't think Schaub getting booed at home for his poor performances didn't influence the owner/coach into blowing right by Yates and starting Keenum? What coach skips over his 2nd string qb to go to his 3rd string qb?

Everyone remember the offseason of 2011? Fans were in an uproar because of how bad Frank Bush's defense was. I remember seeing fans on the news threatening not to support the team anymore if a credible defensive mind (not another one of Kubiak's cronies) wasn't brought in to fix the team's defense. Some time later Wade Phillips was spotted entering Reliant.

People like to act like McNair isn't a fan of this team and he doesn't hear the fans; trust, he does. What's more is the people around him who are fans of the team & have considerable influence on him hear us too. It's not a stretch at all to believe that fan influence might have at least a little something to do with Keenum staying on board here. Obviously he'll have to show a little something to warrant sticking around but the fanfare could very well be the deciding factor between he and Yates who both are pretty much the same guy in terms of upside imo.
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Chron.com's McClain and Brian T. Smith think Yates will be waived:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ack-situation/
The link (trying IE 11 and Firefox) takes me to the title.......but only has a 200 count slide show.......no discussion???????
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The link (trying IE 11 and Firefox) takes me to the title.......but only has a 200 count slide show.......no discussion???????
I use Firefox. There's a commercial above the slideshow. I don't believe there are any controls and it takes a bit of time with nothing happening, then the commercial self loads. When the commercial completes, the discussion will self load. That's how it worked for me.
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The link (trying IE 11 and Firefox) takes me to the title.......but only has a 200 count slide show.......no discussion???????
It's a video.

Nothing earth-shattering in there, no "new" news. Smith likes Case as a change of pace to Fitz/Savage. McClain going with home town guy, but throwing it in there that we might snatch another QB off the waiver-wire since we're first in line.
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Just more speculation; as if we don't have enough of that already, LOL.
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Also interesting, WHEN the odd man out will be let go...?
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Wade Smith makes excuses for Keenum:

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/06/...r-matt-schaub/

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Default Re: Which QB will be waived?

Here's two things I feel confident saying : Fitz will, barring some miracle turnaround by Keenum and Yates will be the starter. Savage will be one of three they keep.

I think the most important question is where does Savage stand in the mix after TC. Does he look closer to backup or still too raw? If he's closer to backup, prolly bodes better for Keenum cause he's got more upside to stay on that third spot. If too raw, I'd prolly give the edge to Yates on possibly being more steady in pocket.

Either way I think if the team gets mediocre qb play it could surprise.
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Default Re: Which QB will be waived?

I think who will be cut will be the person who has shown the least potential in the new system.

I've seen enough of Yates. He's been in this league long enough while Keenum has basically played as a thrown in rookie last year that I know will improve. So IMHO Yates will be cut.

Weather it's Keenum or Yates, the person picked to stay is because he's shown more upside and has played better, and has an IQ that the coach is looking for.
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I think who will be cut will be the person who has shown the least potential in the new system.

I've seen enough of Yates. He's been in this league long enough while Keenum has basically played as a thrown in rookie last year that I know will improve. So IMHO Yates will be cut.

Weather it's Keenum or Yates, the person picked to stay is because he's shown more upside and has played better, and has an IQ that the coach is looking for.
This is funny b/c Yates actually was a true rookie who was thrown into the fire when he played his 6 games in 2011. Meanwhile, Keenum had a whole year to sit on the practice squad to get ready to even be able to compete....and didn't look much better.
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Default Re: Which QB will be waived?

My vote was Keenum (unfortunately). I don't think he's BOB's type of QB. That said, I don't think Yates is either and both guys have playing time. Yates has won a couple of big games and therefore a little more battle tested.

The argument to my above opinion might be that Yates may (or may not be) a little more expensive.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Yates fits what BOB is looking for more than Keenum but who offers me more on Sunday? Keenum.
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I think Yates fits the mold that OB looks for in a QB and according to rumors, they had an offer for a late round pick in the last draft for Yates and declined. <snip>
Until we have a direct quote from a team insider, I have to believe it's just that, a rumor. They couldn't be crazy enough to refuse a pick in exchange for Yates.
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prob keenum Yates is more of a OB type of QB chase is not


Should be both IMO

we should start the season with only 2 QBS Fitz and savage
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Default Re: Which QB will be waived?

I don't think Savage will be the #2 on this team until midseason. He's a little too raw at this point. That leaves either Keenum or Yates as the #2 and the other on the street. I would be very surprised if Yates makes the team over Keenum. I just don't think Yates has enough talent.

I also don't think Keenum will be the long term answer at backup. My guess is that he'll stay on the roster to appease the homers and then get cut after the season. Here's to hoping that Savage becomes a stud while learning the system and can take over the starting role late in the season / next year (or show us enough to know we need to draft a QB)
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That, I think, is one of the reasons he's going to get cut. If he's not appreciably better than Yates, than OB will want no part of the circus that a local undrafted QB superstar can potentially create.
Lots of people go to circus enjoy and spend lots of money. What NFL owner does not want that? QB (or any position) controversy does not have to be a negative especially with strong coaches. Also why does a player have to be "appreciably" better to be selected? Yates and Keenum costs and age are about equal so could not a "slightly" or even a"minuscule" better player be selected, especially if O'Brien is as smart as it is said? Not trying to play word games but I don't think any of the QBs have to be much better than others to be on roster, with maybe the exception of Savage but even then if the other three are better, store him and if he is taken, so be it.
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prob keenum Yates is more of a OB type of QB chase is not


Should be both IMO

we should start the season with only 2 QBS Fitz and savage

What the what??? This is crazy, even for you Norg!! WTH are you trying to say??
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I honestly think that Keenum's hometown fanfare is gonna keep him on the roster and conversely get Yates cut.
So, either OB does not have control of the 53 man roster, or he's not the man for the job? Is that about right?
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Keenum. Let him find a new home maybe Baltimore or Cleveland let him test the market for better situation now so that he can catch on with another team.
We've got to have one of the worst QB situations in the league. I don't understand why anyone would pick up any of these guys when we cut him. They'll be picking a guy who couldn't beat out a back-up's back-up.
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