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Old 05-30-2014   #181
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Nice quote in the Chronicle this morning by T.J. : "It's an awesome offense. The quarterback is in complete control of everything. We're setting the protection. We're setting the fronts, getting guys in the right places. It lets you be the leader out there - that's for sure. You have lots of freedom, lots of options."
I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.
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If that's what you thought people were saying, then you were misunderstanding the whole concept.

In Kubiak's offense, you don't have complete freedom as a QB. What you have are options that are supposed to counter whatever the defense was doing. Most of the thinking was on the QB and the receivers didn't have to make a lot of reads (although they did adjust their routes according to some reads). If the defense was going to do X, then the QB had to read that and go to this receiver but if the defense was going to do Y, then the QB had to read that and go to this other receiver. At the line of scrimmage, the QB could make a read and shift to one or two other options.

It was NOT complete freedom and I don't believe anyone ever argued that it was.

In this offense, the QB can make the read and if he sees a matchup he likes, he can make a specific call for a specific receiver. Or he can change a whole group of receivers' routes by calling a package on one side or the other.

This way allows the QB much more freedom. But it's still different from some other approaches where the coaches send in a package and the QB has a palette of options based off of it or even access to the whole playbook.
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This offense doesn't call out specific receivers and tell them the route. The QB will have to make a call out to change what all the receivers on that side are going to do. At least, that's what I got from the "concepts" concept.
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Some more about the special footballs the RBs are using that I mentioned earlier.

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RBs using blue-sleeved footballs

Ball security is top priority for the Texans running backs, especially with the new blue sleeves covering each football. Second-year back Dennis Johnson, using this tactic for the first time, described the blue fabric as “slippery.”

“That will help you hold onto the ball,” Johnson said. “It will help you think about it more.”

The silky covering makes the ball harder to grip and players must concentrate on keeping the ball locked in while they run. This week, the running backs used this exercise during individual drills in OTAs. To further reinforce this lesson, players who drop the ball will take an extra lap around the field.

Other NFL teams have also been incorporating the slippery sleeves in OTAs to practice ball security.
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I believe it's going to be fast paced.

I think Keenum excels in that kind of offense where he doesn't have to hold onto the ball.

I think it's tailor made for him because I think he excels moving at a faster pace, getting the ball out quick and making pre snap reads. I think Case is smart and will perform better with more freedom to take advantage of things he sees.

I don't know much about Fitz...I haven't seen Yates do it much and Savage is pretty unknown to me....

I've seen a lot of Case playing football though and I believe this offensive style suits him well.

Doesn't mean I think he'll succeed. Just because you are in a scheme that fits you doesn't mean you're good enough.
I agree with this.

That uptempo style fits very well with Case since he's used to it at UH.

Yates operated an exact copy of Kubiak 's WCO in college.

Fitzpatrick probably have seen his shares through the year.

I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.
I think he can, but be might not give me the results I like to see.

I think the Texans can make the playoffs with Fitz.
If Savage can keep improving on his game, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.

I'd rather not see the Texans draft another QB any time soon.
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What stands out to me is the system gets the ball out of QB's hands into play makers'. Reminds me of the football we played before and after school in Junior high. Bunch of kids lining up either side of ball and just letting go. Blocking was minimal so QB had to pass quickly. No running game allowed though; made it interesting.

My concern is that the "play maker" has to get free and then catch the ball. We should be good with AJ, Hopkins and the TEs.
Out quick=shorter routes. What playmakers are you talking about? People can blow up the concept of offense all they want, but I bet you will see a better flacco than we've ever seen. If kubes can turn schaub into a probowl caliber qb, flacco will be even higher. Not only that, the ravens off will look much different than texans. Flacco routes will look alot different thanbthe routes schaub could disply.

Im not hating on OB and the qbs bashing the kubiak offense,im just saying to his fault,kubes shouldve drafted a qb capable of running his whole playbook. OB offense had success for the same reason mcdaniels offense and weiss offense had succes,brady. Kubes and his simpleton offense turned plummer,, griese,and schaub into pro bowlers. I wont even bring elway into the discussion. Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.
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Out quick=shorter routes. What playmakers are you talking about? People can blow up the concept of offense all they want, but I bet you will see a better flacco than we've ever seen. If kubes can turn schaub into a probowl caliber qb, flacco will be even higher. Not only that, the ravens off will look much different than texans. Flacco routes will look alot different thanbthe routes schaub could disply.

Im not hating on OB and the qbs bashing the kubiak offense,im just saying to his fault,kubes shouldve drafted a qb capable of running his whole playbook. OB offense had success for the same reason mcdaniels offense and weiss offense had succes,brady. Kubes and his simpleton offense turned plummer,, griese,and schaub into pro bowlers. I wont even bring elway into the discussion. Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.
Yes, but Elway had Terrell Davis.
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I agree with this.

That uptempo style fits very well with Case since he's used to it at UH.

Yates operated an exact copy of Kubiak 's WCO in college.

Fitzpatrick probably have seen his shares through the year.

I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.
I think he can, but be might not give me the results I like to see.

I think the Texans can make the playoffs with Fitz.
If Savage can keep improving on his game, it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.

I'd rather not see the Texans draft another QB any time soon.
Other than being blinded by texans fandom, what gives you the idea the texans can make the playoffs with fitz? Titans had as much talent as texans this year and played like a playoff team with locker in. Locker goes out, in comes fitz and he started playing double agent again. Fitz is garbage and has been. Id rather see any of the others before fitz. If its close,might as well throw savage in and get the pains out the way. Meanwhile, colts guy is getting better and adding distance between them and rest of the division. Sounds familiar?
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Other than being blinded by texans fandom, what gives you the idea the texans can make the playoffs with fitz? Titans had as much talent as texans this year and played like a playoff team with locker in. Locker goes out, in comes fitz and he started playing double agent again. Fitz is garbage and has been. Id rather see any of the others before fitz. If its close,might as well throw savage in and get the pains out the way. Meanwhile, colts guy is getting better and adding distance between them and rest of the division. Sounds familiar?
Because the Texans defense is supposed to be very good and the schedule is light.
We have 3 running backs that are capable.
Our Line wasn't terrible in the running game if we only had the RBS healthy.
Brooks, Jones, and Newton have another year under their belt.

Newton is supposed to be healthy, and if somebody beats him out, it can only be better.

We have more options in the return game.
With more team speed, the ST coverage should improve.

More experiences and ability in offensive weapons, to name a few reasons.
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It seems the one receiver that has drawn specific praise from OB has been DeVier Posey, who was singled out as having made a good impression this first week.
good to hear as he needs to have good preseason imo
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It seems the one receiver that has drawn specific praise from OB has been DeVier Posey, who was singled out as having made a good impression this first week.
Good to hear.
We sure can use his speed.
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Yes, but Elway had Terrell Davis.
Who was davis before elway and after elway? Im saying, until he proved it, davis didnt see 8 man boxes. Even after he proved it, he still didnt see 8 man boxes with sharpe,smith,and mccaffrey on the field. Elway took scrubs to the sb 3 times prior. No doubt having a runngame late in his career,but elway was the engine. The point I was making is kubes/shanny rigid structure has proven to work on every level. As I said, plummer,griese,and schaub had pro bowl years under this structure. OB has done nothing without brady. Mcdaniels was supposed to be a offensive guru also,but what happened without brady?
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Who was davis before elway and after elway? Im saying, until he proved it, davis didnt see 8 man boxes. Even after he proved it, he still didnt see 8 man boxes with sharpe,smith,and mccaffrey on the field. Elway took scrubs to the sb 3 times prior. No doubt having a runngame late in his career,but elway was the engine. The point I was making is kubes/shanny rigid structure has proven to work on every level. As I said, plummer,griese,and schaub had pro bowl years under this structure. OB has done nothing without brady. Mcdaniels was supposed to be a offensive guru also,but what happened without brady?
I did say yes earlier.
I only added "but".

Look at Davis' numbers during their 2 SB playoffs march.
There's no way defense didn't try to stop him.
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Elway was a HoF QB without Davis. Davis helped the team get over the SB hump.
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Ask elway, and he managed to make plays and win big without the so called freedoms everyone is ramping up.
Agreed. We've seen Kubiak's offense put up some big numbers without elite talent (when Andre was hurt & we had no running game).

Put an elite QB in Kubiak's system, someone with elite talent (I think Schaub had an elite football mind) & it's better than most.
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I think with the way football has evolved on the NFL level, you almost have to give your QB's some of that freedom that the current QB's are describing.

Depending on who's under center and how much they can handle....How much the coach wants to give them...But I think the goal should be to put more on their plate...Not limit it.
Yeah, I've been thinking about that for a while. Wondering how well that's gonna float in Balty.

Guess we'll find out in a few months.
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I also agree that it does 5 mean Keenum still has to play quite better than last year to win the j9b.
Whut?

Came up empty.

So, whut??
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So when is the next round of OTAs scheduled?
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So when is the next round of OTAs scheduled?
June 2, 3, 5, 9, 10, 12, 13
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