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Old 10-01-2014   #1
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Lots of other guys have their own threads so lets get one going for Connor Cook-QB from Michigan State. From the little I've seen of him, I'm very impressed. Cook has the size that many of us would like to see in a QB, listed at 6'04" and 218 lbs.. That might be a little light on the weight but adding weight to a frame of that size should be easy. He's got a quick, easy throwing motion, light on his feet, doesn't seem to run alot but looks athletic so that if he had to I have no doubt he could. Good touch on his passes, hits WR's in motion unlike many QB's that quite often throw to stationary receivers, good vision through his check downs, etc... He also seems to have that undefineable IT factor. Anyone else with opinions, surely we have some Big 10 football experts here? IMO he's second only to Mariota because I have no interest in Winston. I'll give an early prediction that he's a top 5 pick in 2015.
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I watched Cook vs Oregon. At the time I thought Cook the better pocket passer than Mariota. IMO I thought Cook saw the field better and had better touch and accuracy on his passes than Mariota. Now many are going to attack my opinion siting Mariota's comp %, TDs vs INTs. To that I say Mariota's comp. % is skewed by the inordinate number of passes he throws under 5 yards.
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If you are watching their game against Neb this weekend, lookout for my lil bro Givens Price, #78 on the O-line for Nebraska. He's been getting a lot of reps at tackle this year...
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Cook has the size that many of us would like to see in a QB, listed at 6'04" and 218 lbs...
That was a question I had, watching him vs. Oregon he looked thicker than 218 lbs. relative to his listed height of 6'4"... and seeing how sometimes listed height doesn't always match actual height, I was wondering if Cook really is 6'4" or maybe 6'2 & change?
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I watched Cook vs Oregon. At the time I thought Cook the better pocket passer than Mariota. IMO I thought Cook saw the field better and had better touch and accuracy on his passes than Mariota. Now many are going to attack my opinion siting Mariota's comp %, TDs vs INTs. To that I say Mariota's comp. % is skewed by the inordinate number of passes he throws under 5 yards.
Agree.

I'm not as high on Mariota as most. I do not think he is a guy that will just step in and be a superstar pro. But I do think he has the mental makeup and physical qualities to get there eventually.

I'd say Mariota has the higher ceiling, but Cook is further along in his development.
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Agree.

I'm not as high on Mariota as most. I do not think he is a guy that will just step in and be a superstar pro. But I do think he has the mental makeup and physical qualities to get there eventually.

I'd say Mariota has the higher ceiling, but Cook is further along in his development.
Mariota is one of the few spread QB's in recent years that I've actually liked. He most definitely won't come in and light it up right away. He will need to sit and learn an NFL offense. He definitely has the mental makeup to make the transition.

Cook is definitely further along and remind's me of a poor man's Andrew Luck.
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I am still higher on Mariota than Cook. I just havent seen anything from Cook that makes me say wow. His games again Jacksonville State, Eastern Michigan, or Wyoming dont impress me much. I did watch the game against Oregon, and Cook looked mediocre at best. Oregon figured MSU out and shut them down in the 2nd half.

Mariota should win the Heisman and be a top 5 pick. To this point he is playing pretty close to mistake free football.
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I like mariota as a better version of manziel. Like what I've seen from cook too.

I think we'll be in a position to grab cook.
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I like mariota as a better version of manziel. Like what I've seen from cook too.

I think we'll be in a position to grab cook.
Really like Mariota, he reminds me of a better Kaepernick.

Really like Cook too. He's the kind of QB I believe BOB is looking for. Hopefully Savage is the answer. He has as much ability as Cook, but needs experience in learning how to read defenses and looking off DB's.
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If you are watching their game against Neb this weekend, lookout for my lil bro Givens Price, #78 on the O-line for Nebraska. He's been getting a lot of reps at tackle this year...
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Really like Mariota, he reminds me of a better Kaepernick.

Really like Cook too. He's the kind of QB I believe BOB is looking for. Hopefully Savage is the answer. He has as much ability as Cook, but needs experience in learning how to read defenses and looking off DB's.
Yea, I see Kaepernick more than Manziel.

They have the same body type and the same long, fluid stride. I don't think he is quite as athletic as Kaepernick, but I think his mental makeup is better, his intangibles are better, and he is a better thrower from the pocket.
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Yea, I see Kaepernick more than Manziel.

They have the same body type and the same long, fluid stride. I don't think he is quite as athletic as Kaepernick, but I think his mental makeup is better, his intangibles are better, and he is a better thrower from the pocket.
My comparison to Manziel was simply in regards to the type of offense he plays in and what he's seemingly asked to do on the field.

I really don't get into comparing players to other players beyond the types of schemes they play in and what they're asked to do.

To me it looks like Mariota and Manziel played in similar type offenses that didn't have them make a lot of difficult reads. Lots of opportunities to use their athleticism. Short throws...designed throws...

I think Mariota has a better shot at being successful in the NFL though because he seems to operate better within the pocket than Manziel did/does. Plus he seems more mature.
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He reminds me of Tom Savage, the Pitt quarterback who was selected by the Houston Texans in the fourth round of the 2014 NFL Draft, when it comes to his decision making on the field. There are a lot of throws into traffic and even some head-scratching decisions. But the arm talent is obvious, and with experience and repetition he could eventually warrant some of the first-round praise thatís circulating through the scouting community. Cook finished last season with 2,755 yards, 22 TDs and 6 INTs. His 58.7% completion percentage is concerning, but Iíd expect that to get better as a he grows as a player.
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Comparison to Savage is about right
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Did anyone see Connor Cook against Nebraska this evening? How did he play?
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Did anyone see Connor Cook against Nebraska this evening? How did he play?
234 yards 1TD 1INT QBR 38.2

TD and INT came early. Managed the game the rest of the way. I wouldn't say he had a good game. MSU's defense stepped up big, but NEB almost came back. Fun game to watch. Cook has skills.
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Very talented. Definitely needs to deal with pressure better though.
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Sure had a crappy first half accuracy wise against Indiana today
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Sure had a crappy first half accuracy wise against Indiana today
What game were you watching?

17/22 for 227 yards with 2 TD's and 1 INT. That was his first half.

He finished the game 24/32 for 332 yards with 3 TD's and 1 INT and that's without throwing a single pass in the 4th quarter.

If he played for Florida State he would have thrown for 500 yards and 5 TD's against that defense today. MSU doesn't pad stats though.
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Connor Cook sure looks like a future pro QB despite his lack of hops or athletic ability. Once upon a time there was some skinny, seemingly non athletic kid who played for Michigan http://www.maizenbluenation.com/2011...deo-clips.html I'm not anointing Connor just yet, he must shine through the process, work his butt off & show determination to cut back on mental lapses & forced throws into coverage (if not open throw it away, not expecting him to run for markers like a Russell Wilson or Marcus Mariota) important to note Cook doesn't dwell or get down on himself & that could be a real plus because like Bortles is now & Peyton did as a rookie coming into the NFL takes a lot of perseverance to survive your rookie season if thrown to the wolfs. I Like how he stands tall in the pocket going through progressions. Ball is out quick, smooth & effortless. His mechanics are really good that will help him tighten his windows & make all the throws needed next level.
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