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No , he didn't.

In fact , they designed a large portion of plays to get Keenum outside the pocket.


Keenum's failures were largely pre snap. He couldn't recognize pressure and coverage packages and didn't make the proper adjustments to those pressures and coverage's.

Even when teams only rushed four but overloaded from one side or the other , Keenum struggled , just go back and watch the 4th quarter of the KC game or the second half against the Dolts.

Keenum's failures were his own , not the coaching staffs ... No , the OL didn't help him and having UDFA's toting the ball in the running game didn't either but he was as much the problem as they were.
hmmm maybe you should go read some of Kubiaks quotes back when keenum started his first few games. You know the ones where keenum was lighting it up. He clearly stated that Keenum needs to do a better job staying in the pocket and trusting his protection. He said this many times.

I dont recall seeing any designed plays to get keenum out of the pocket, infact when he was in i saw some of the most plain/vanilla play calling i had ever seen in the Kubiak era.

Oh and you mean the KC game where we had 0 running backs,,, yeah situational in that case. Prob not a fair assessment there.
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Daym. Week 1 starter.

Welcome to Houston Ms. Savage!
Oh man the SPCA is not gonna like that. then who's the chick?
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Video: goPro Helmet Cam on Pitt Quarterback Tom Savage

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OB really liked him at his pro day, which was one of the first on the calendar. OB must see his flaws as fixable. Watching tape, his O-line play was just horrid at times. Derek Newton is 10x better than Pitt's RT.

Not really. Id be surprised if he's anything more than a backup or flash like derek anderson. He's not good at all. He graded out as the worse qb in in terms of accuracy in both short,medium,and long. He gets sacked a lot because he has no pocket presence and throws a lot of questionable balls. He's a poor mans logan thomas. Except logan can run like a deer at times.
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Really didn't know anything about this kid, but I've watched a ton of tape on him in the last hour.

Really nice arm if you ask me. He isn't mobile, but he'll take the ball and has a body that can absorb some hits. He'll sit in the pocket and take that hit to deliver a pass unlike many QB's.

I'm on a wait and see approach with this guy. Definitely like the touch on his passes though. He can sling it.
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It's about time! He has some downside and let's hope he can learn. They say he has enough intelligence to learn. A grade of A- for this pick.
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Clearly possesses a "laser-rocket arm" and I think with a couple of camps and only a single offense to learn he might just amount to something special.

I've got high hopes.
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Not really. Id be surprised if he's anything more than a backup or flash like derek anderson. He's not good at all. He graded out as the worse qb in in terms of accuracy in both short,medium,and long. He gets sacked a lot because he has no pocket presence and throws a lot of questionable balls. He's a poor mans logan thomas. Except logan can run like a deer at times.
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I respect your knowledge of the game and know that you are able to rational assess players in an unclouded and unbiased fashion. So, I certainly respect your opinion on Savage, and I'm sure you have spent more time studying him than I have. That being said, I was very impressed with him- loving his delivery and natural arm strength and also believing that he illustrated a very good feel in the pocket considering all the rust he had to overcome this year. I'm not foolish enough to predict he'll turn into our future QB, but I see plenty to be hopeful for and nothing precluding the possibility.
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Long lost... father and son?
Looks more like the younger brother of Trey Parker to me.

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Can someone clarify this? Was Savage recruited by O'Brien or something?
Savage considered transferring to Penn State when he began his college tour.
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interesting. i hope he becomes a r,eally good qb for us.
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interesting. i hope he becomes a r,eally good qb for us.
He doesn't play for the Browns.
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stupid nfl network put commercials right when texans were picking -.-

qb at last, let's hope he is the right choice
this happens every time every year its like Texans didn't pay something to the NFL to were they do this on purpose LOL
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Lee,

I respect your knowledge of the game and know that you are able to rational assess players in an unclouded and unbiased fashion. So, I certainly respect your opinion on Savage, and I'm sure you have spent more time studying him than I have. That being said, I was very impressed with him- loving his delivery and natural arm strength and also believing that he illustrated a very good feel in the pocket considering all the rust he had to overcome this year. I'm not foolish enough to predict he'll turn into our future QB, but I see plenty to be hopeful for and nothing precluding the possibility.
He can throw the ball through a car wash. I've said this in another thread,if the texans wanted a guy like this,why not sign Josh Freeman or draft Logan Thomas? I mean,this dude is a long,long way away. As many noted about TB long ball inaccuracies,savage is worse. The tv people said they didn't see a college qb who could throw a 20 yd comeback route,but there are 6 or 7 qb in the nfl who can do that. Guess what? None are named brees,brady,manning. The guys who can throw those are ben,flacco,stafford,cutler,cam,kaep,and maybe rg3. That's it. I still think mallett is in play for the texans. I doubt they go into camp with any of these 4 and expect to win 7 games.
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He can throw the ball through a car wash. I've said this in another thread,if the texans wanted a guy like this,why not sign Josh Freeman or draft Logan Thomas? I mean,this dude is a long,long way away. As many noted about TB long ball inaccuracies,savage is worse. The tv people said they didn't see a college qb who could throw a 20 yd comeback route,but there are 6 or 7 qb in the nfl who can do that. Guess what? None are named brees,brady,manning. The guys who can throw those are ben,flacco,stafford,cutler,cam,kaep,and maybe rg3. That's it. I still think mallett is in play for the texans. I doubt they go into camp with any of these 4 and expect to win 7 games.
And why would you want Mallett?

Weren't you one of those who said that a team needs a first rounder at QB?
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I don't love the pick, but I see the upside and the possibilities. I'll like for now and trust in Bill O'Brien.
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I don't love the pick, but I see the upside and the possibilities. I'll like for now and trust in Bill O'Brien.

Same here. I like the potential, I just hope he learns fast and gets a chance to play quickly. I graded him a B in the grade the draft thread. Based on girlfriend, I give him an A+
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Same here. I like the potential, I just hope he learns fast and gets a chance to play quickly. I graded him a B in the grade the draft thread. Based on girlfriend, I give him an A+
So what starting QB at a large university either does not have a really hot girlfriend or a harem of skanks.
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