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Guys, you seem to be forgetting the best way to assess a QB.

How hot was his GF?

Daym. Week 1 starter.

Welcome to Houston Ms. Savage!
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Damn. It pays to be a college QB, man.
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IMHO, Yates suffered the misfortune of following up Schaub's pick-6 run by throwing one of his own. McNair then pressured Kubes into playing Keenum.

Yates has proved more on the field that Keenum has. See: Playoff win.
The team backing him up was incomparably better as a whole during that period as compared to what Keenum had to work with. Every time Yates was put in after that year, he looked terrible.
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Savage doesn't have Bortles mobility. Not by a long shot. But, he's not a statue, either. Has the same reverse pivot move Bridgewater employs. The main problems I see in watching him are ball security and locking onto receivers. A lot of young QBs have this problem. But then, most rookie QBs are younger than 24.
I think he's just as mobile/athletic as Bortles... doesn't have the same "spidey sense" though. By the time Savage realizes he's in trouble, it's too late.

Two biggest problems I see involve bad decision making. I don't mind a QB taking a sack, that's part of the game, but he's loosing 10+ yards on quite a few of them. Then he tends to force some throws..... may be because they were losing & he felt he had to... so those are the things I'll be watching.
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Savage wears #7. Keenum wear #7.

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Savage wears #7. Keenum wear #7.

Sorry Case
Savage will switch his number to 8.

OH NO!!!

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Savage will switch his number to 8.

OH NO!!!

Dear Tebow I hope not.
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All I see is a fork sticking squarely out of Keenum. No offense to the cult of personality.
That's what it looks like to me too... but Keenum gave them hell playing out of the spread, New England liked to spread the field, McNair really wanted to see the kid play (most likely to secure the #1 overall), he might be the darkhorse in this race.
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Savage wears #7. Keenum wear #7.





Sorry Case




Savage should wear number one. It makes more sense. Savage one. Savage seven doesn't have as much as a ring to it.
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The team backing him up was incomparably better as a whole during that period as compared to what Keenum had to work with. Every time Yates was put in after that year, he looked terrible.
And what exactly did Keenum do this last season that says he is clearly better than Yates? Have one good game where he and AJ connected... but still lost? Took Carr-like 20 yard sacks trying to run away from the blitz? Not be able to make a hot read, which has nothing to do with the play of those around him?

I swear, I get the hometown hero bullcrap, but it's getting to be too much. People are talking about how he needs another shot at starting this coming season because it wasn't "fair" what he was asked to do last year. Well that is where the opportunities lie. When everything has gone to hell in a handbasket. And he wasn't able to do anything with that opportunity. Time to move on. I honestly don't care that it is fair.

Do I think that Yates is a starter? No. Do I think that he will be a much better back-up in this system than Keenum will be? Absolutely.

Size and mobility-wise Savage, Fitzy and Yates are very similar. Obviously OB wants his QB to look a certain way in his system. Keenum is not that QB.
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Savage should wear number one. It makes more sense. Savage one. Savage seven doesn't have as much as a ring to it.
Unless your describing our front 7 on defense.
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And what exactly did Keenum do this last season that says he is clearly better than Yates? Have one good game where he and AJ connected... but still lost? Took Carr-like 20 yard sacks trying to run away from the blitz? Not be able to make a hot read, which has nothing to do with the play of those around him?

I swear, I get the hometown hero bullcrap, but it's getting to be too much. People are talking about how he needs another shot at starting this coming season because it wasn't "fair" what he was asked to do last year. Well that is where the opportunities lie. When everything has gone to hell in a handbasket. And he wasn't able to do anything with that opportunity. Time to move on. I honestly don't care that it is fair.

Do I think that Yates is a starter? No. Do I think that he will be a much better back-up in this system than Keenum will be? Absolutely.

Size and mobility-wise Savage, Fitzy and Yates are very similar. Obviously OB wants his QB to look a certain way in his system. Keenum is not that QB.
Your opinion counts as much as mine, or any other fan; ie. Zero.

We'll just have to wait and see how it shakes out.

But, you have no idea who's a homer and who's not.
You're not in my head, or anybody else's.
So please quit with the accusations, please.
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Size and mobility-wise Savage, Fitzy and Yates are very similar. Obviously OB wants his QB to look a certain way in his system. Keenum is not that QB.
It all comes down to this. Keenum is not a BOB style QB, and I can't see him being kept around.

I think we go into the season Fitz starting, and Yates backing up, with Savage spending a year learning the system and how to be a professional QB.

This season will be all about how far Fitz can take us - and then the assessment will be made next off season about how the year went with regards to whether Fitz stays around as starter, or backs up Savage/a high draft pick QB or is moved on.
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Savage will switch his number to 8. OH NO!!!
Savage should switch to #6... how many points we get for a TD pass!

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Savage should wear number one. It makes more sense. Savage one. Savage seven doesn't have as much as a ring to it.
Savage Seven sounds pretty cool.

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Your opinion counts as much as mine, or any other fan; ie. Zero.
Agreed. Someone else already mentioned Case is going to be in camp. That's more than he or Yates deserve. They'll get their chance. It's up to them to rise to the occasion.

The deck is stacked against them, welcome to the life of an NFL QB.
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he beat out the guy you think sucks. That's something.
Regardless what I think.. does it change the fact that Keenum beat out Yates? Keenum is cheaper and holds more value/upside.. the only way he's let go over another QB who lost his spot to a undersized undrafted QB is if Keenum sucks it up at camp.

And yes, Yates does suck, but my opinion won't matter when the ax drops. We're arguing over the 3rd QB on the roster BTW. What's the point?
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Your opinion counts as much as mine, or any other fan; ie. Zero.

We'll just have to wait and see how it shakes out.

But, you have no idea who's a homer and who's not.
You're not in my head, or anybody else's.
So please quit with the accusations, please.
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Default Re: Selection 4.135: Tom Savage

Poll results are 50-5 in favor.

I wonder if 55 know who he is ???


He does have some redeeming qualities - He has the size , has a very strong arm and isn't a statue back there. A project with long term potential.

I had other QB's above him .... but I can see the potential. If he develops even into a backup , getting him at 4:35 is good value anything beyond that is gravy. QB is such a hard position to fill.
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IMHO, Yates suffered the misfortune of following up Schaub's pick-6 run by throwing one of his own. McNair then pressured Kubes into playing Keenum.

Yates has proved more on the field that Keenum has. See: Playoff win.
LOL..

You are really going to give credit to Yates for that playoff win.. hahaha.. cough ha ha. Wow. I could've suited up under center in that game, would you gave me credit for the win too? Yates was a participant in that game.. nothing else.

Look I'm not going to lie.. when Keenum started I got wrapped up in the story of the local hero saving the day, but he didn't.. that's when the dream stopped. But I'm still not going to lie to myself and act like he isn't better than T.J. Yates, because he is. And I'm certainty not going to act like Yates was the reason why we beat the Bengals or give Yates for that win.
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