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Old 05-30-2014   #421
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I'm not sure they're going to want to carry 4 QB's. The point LZ made is that we'll be running with 4 TE's which is more than we're used to and he even questioned if we'd be using even 3 QB's. I think Savage and Fitzpatrick are sure things and Keenum vs Yates for QB3.
I find that hard to believe, but not unbelievable. Yates favors Savage in a lot of ways, both of them remind me of Jay Cutler. While I'm not a big Cutler fan, he was a first rounder & most people put him in that "first rounder" talent category... still waiting on him to fulfill his potential.

Savage looks ready to go to me. His mechanics are flawless, he ran a pro system, he played relatively well for where he was in his career, & appears to be a born leader.

Since we signed Fitz, there was no doubt in my mind the plan was for Case to beat him out. Could just as easily be Yates in my mind.

Since we drafted Savage, I figured we're going with two QBs. Savage & one of the other three. Don't know which one will start, don't really think it matters. Fitz is the only one that is handicapped, I think because of his age. The only thing he brings to the table, imo, is the "be ready to play at any time, make the most of your opportunity" mentality. If Tj & Case show that they have the same type of outlook & work ethic... no reason to keep him.
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I find that hard to believe, but not unbelievable. Yates favors Savage in a lot of ways, both of them remind me of Jay Cutler. While I'm not a big Cutler fan, he was a first rounder & most people put him in that "first rounder" talent category... still waiting on him to fulfill his potential.

Savage looks ready to go to me. His mechanics are flawless, he ran a pro system, he played relatively well for where he was in his career, & appears to be a born leader.

Since we signed Fitz, there was no doubt in my mind the plan was for Case to beat him out. Could just as easily be Yates in my mind.

Since we drafted Savage, I figured we're going with two QBs. Savage & one of the other three. Don't know which one will start, don't really think it matters. Fitz is the only one that is handicapped, I think because of his age. The only thing he brings to the table, imo, is the "be ready to play at any time, make the most of your opportunity" mentality. If Tj & Case show that they have the same type of outlook & work ethic... no reason to keep him.
'cept maybe that cap hit. Too lazy to look it up again now but I've posted it before. 4.9 mill rings a bell but like I said, I'm too lazy right now to look it up again.

I'm pretty sure he makes the roster.
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'cept maybe that cap hit. Too lazy to look it up again now but I've posted it before. 4.9 mill rings a bell but like I said, I'm too lazy right now to look it up again.

I'm pretty sure he makes the roster.
$4M Dead Money hit with a $3.375M 2014 cap hit so it would cost us $625K to release him although we'd take the $4M hit to the cap this season.
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'cept maybe that cap hit. Too lazy to look it up again now but I've posted it before. 4.9 mill rings a bell but like I said, I'm too lazy right now to look it up again.

I'm pretty sure he makes the roster.
Yup. I see about .0000000001% chance Fitz doesn't make the roster. They aren't paying $4 mil for him to attend training camp.
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'cept maybe that cap hit. Too lazy to look it up again now but I've posted it before. 4.9 mill rings a bell but like I said, I'm too lazy right now to look it up again.

I'm pretty sure he makes the roster.
If $4.5M is more important than putting the best players on the Roster, then yeah... they may very well keep him.

But I don't see us keeping three QBs, not with the increase I expect in the number of TEs & OLmen we're going to carry.


Yeah, I'm saying he's not among the two best QBs on the team. They probably expected to carry Case & Fitz. But Savage came along, & Yates may end up beating both Fitz & Case. Things change. People adjust their plans.
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It's Fitz, Savage, and either Yates or Keenum. We aren't carrying 4 QBs.
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I agree. I think O'Brien will use the Jimmy Johnson approach where he treats each player differently based on a variety of factors. It's not something that we are privy to, but I have little doubt that a player of AJ's stature garners a lot of respect.
Perhaps you're right.
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Nothing substantial, but here's a little piece on Tom Savage at OTAs
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Nice Magic Jack interview with a local sportswriter from "team stream".
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Well, here he is in his uni.

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Well, here he is in his uni.


#7 would look good wearing a Texans uni too. Is the Cardinals guy Logan Thomas?
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Well, here he is in his uni.

I can't help but thinking Savage looks like Kris Brown with that number.
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Is the Cardinals guy Logan Thomas?
#6 is Thomas, 6'6"+, 250 lbs, near 11" hand, scattershot arm.
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#6 is Thomas, 6'6"+, 250 lbs, near 11" hand, scattershot arm.
Looks the part in pads but all the research I did on him leading up to the draft made me realize that I'd draft him... as a TE.
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Bill O'Brien downplays possibility of Tom Savage starting

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"I really think that it’s important that that guy learns in his first year," O’Brien said. "I think it’s very, very, very difficult to play quarterback as a rookie, especially in the first 6-8 weeks of the season in your first year. We’ve got veteran quarterbacks here… those guys are battling out for the starting job, and Tom’s in there, and he’s battling too, but hopefully Tom can come into this season and learn a lot, and run the scout team, and then go from there after this season."
http://www.cardiachill.com/2014/6/2/...rs-case-keenum
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He also had plenty of good things to say about former Pitt QB and Texans 4th round pick Tom Savage, saying that he heard nothing but good things about Savage at Pitt and has seen so many great attributes in Savage, remarking that Savage’s car was in the parking lot as he pulled into the Texans facility shortly before 6:45 a.m. local time during the interview.
“We were impressed by his intelligence, his ability to communicate, his demeanor- I felt like he was a calm kid that was a competitive kid,” O’Brien said. “At the end of the day, we felt really good about where he was when we picked him, and we feel like he has come in here and he’s really worked extremely hard.”


...hopefully Tom can come into this season and learn a lot, and run the scout team, and then go from there after this season.
If Savage ends up running the scout team that tells me he wasn't picked to be the future of the Texans at that position. If he ends up being our back up, we cut two of our current QBs & we bring another QB in to run the scout team, then that would tell me they drafted him to be our starting QB.
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Good stuff, as always, thanks Playoffs.
If Savage ends up running the scout team that tells me he wasn't picked to be the future of the Texans at that position. If he ends up being our back up, we cut two of our current QBs & we bring another QB in to run the scout team, then that would tell me they drafted him to be our starting QB.
Are you under the impression back up and running the scout team are mutually exclusive?
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Are you under the impression back up and running the scout team are mutually exclusive?
Pretty much. The back up imo should be learning the game plan & be prepared to come into the game & pick up the offense.

If I were OB & my plan was for Savage to be starting 2015, then I don't want him running the scout team.

Then again, from what I understand, the Cowboys felt really good about Romo his second season, but he was still third on their depth chart, the year they thought he might be ready, the promoted him to back up...

so I may have to rethink that.
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