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Old 05-10-2014   #81
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Yep. I think pretty easily he's the best TE on this roster now.
I didn't agree with this at first, but I do now after watching all the clips on him.
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I didn't agree with this at first, but I do now after watching all the clips on him.
we're going to have a red zone offense that will feature passes that are taller than yardage thrown for you know. Just run a few steps turn around and get in rebounding position.
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Gronk II is coming to Houston! He's also the blocking TE that the Texans have been looking for.
Gronk started out as arguably the best TE to ever play, and you're going to automatically call this guy the next Gronk? Lol!

I like the pick though. I'm glad we got a TE that Bill likes. I wouldn't call anyone the next Gronk though. That's not fair to any rookie player.
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He caught 45 passes for 433 yards, which were both career highs. He finished third on the team in both stats but collected only one touchdown. Iowa as a team had a total of seven touchdown passes in 2012. It was a team problem.

He'll fit right in here....

Last year he had a career high 7 TDS.
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Gronk started out as arguably the best TE to ever play, and you're going to automatically call this guy the next Gronk? Lol!

I like the pick though. I'm glad we got a TE that Bill likes. I wouldn't call anyone the next Gronk though. That's not fair to any rookie player.
My obvious hyperbole was out of excitement and referring to the type of TE. How he stands up to Gronk once in the NFL is to be seen........but he has some good pieces to start off his journey.
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All of the Patriots writers compared Fiedorowicz to Gronk -- player comparisons just give an idea of what the kid might become for those who don't watch tape or follow college football much.
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Default Re: Selection 3.65: C.J. Fiedorowicz

It seems that many of you don't quite grasp how important the TE is in O'Brien's offense. In his only year as the Pats OC (2011), Gronk caught 90 passes and Hernandez caught 79. The year before he got bumped to OC (2010), those two guys combined for 87 catches. In both years at Penn State, 3 of his top 6 pass catchers were TE's.

The guy utilizes TE's and TE was a huge area of need for us in the talent department. Sure we have numbers, but do Griffin and Graham really scare people? I don't think so. Fiedorowicz brings an added dimension as an in-line blocker and receiver. Griffin has potential in those same areas, but it's just potential right now. Graham is an H-Back who will be moving around the formation a lot and not really playing in-line.

Oh and Fido will definitely be the #1 TE this year.
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Default Re: Selection 3.65: C.J. Fiedorowicz TE

Initially thought it was early to take a TE, but after reading over the scouting report and my lack of excitement over resigning Graham. I became excited about this pick. Glad we have another person on offense who can actually create mismatches.
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I really like this pick! It's a classic OB type TE, smart, big, fast, soft hands, & can block! Finally a TE that can create mismatches! A grade.
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Default Re: Selection 3.65: C.J. Fiedorowicz TE

I thought it was goofy to go into the last two seasons with 3 TEs in a two TE offense.

Doesn't make sense.
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I thought it was goofy to go into the last two seasons with 3 TEs in a two TE offense.

Doesn't make sense.
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Default Re: Selection 3.65: C.J. Fiedorowicz TE

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If you're going to contribute as a "Y" tight end for the New England Patriots, you need enough size to be an effective blocker and create mismatches in the passing game.

Troy Niklas measured in at the combine at 6'6" and 270 pounds, with 34.25" arms and 10" hands. Those are prototypical numbers for the position. Rob Gronkowski came in at 6'6", 264 pounds, 34.25" arms and massive 10.75" hands at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine.

C.J. Fiedorowicz nearly matched Niklas, but he came up short at 6'5" and 265 pounds with 33" arms and 10.25" hands. It doesn't show up on tape, but the shorter arms are a disadvantage when blocking on the edge.

Speed isn't the top priority for a "Y" tight end, but Rob Gronkowski has shown that huge guys that can run fast are tough to stop. Neither of these three have speed that approaches Gronkowski-territory.

Only Fiedorowicz was able to run the 40-yard dash at the combine—Niklas and Seferian-Jenkins were both nursing injuries—and clocked a solid 4.76 mark. Niklas will likely run in the same range at his pro timing day, while Seferian-Jenkins has a chance to break the 4.7 barrier.

Fiedorowicz impressed with a 7.10 three-cone drill—top among tight ends at the combine—while Niklas' 7.57 time might have been due to his injury. Seferian-Jenkins didn't participate in any running events in Indianapolis.

If tight ends can't block effectively, the offense loses the ability to use "12" personnel as both an effective running and passing personnel grouping. That duality causes defenses all kinds of problems, especially when the Patriots go no-huddle.

Fiedorowicz sets himself apart in his pass-blocking. Where Fiedorowicz—coached up by former Belichick coaches Kirk and Brian Ferentz at Iowa—remains solid moving backwards, Niklas can get sloppy in his pass sets. On occasion, he will get put on skates when edge-rushers try power moves.

As important as blocking is, tight ends in the New England Patriots' offense have to be able to get open and catch the football.

C.J. Fiedorowicz isn't as dynamic as Niklas—that may be in part to the conservative Iowa offense—but what he does, he does well. He runs curls and outs as good as any tight end in the NFL and is extremely effective at getting open in the red zone. He could have notched a few more touchdowns his senior season if the Iowa quarterback hadn't chosen to run touchdowns in himself.

If the Patriots want a polished player that can fit in as a rookie without any hiccups, Fiedorowicz should be the pick.
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A better comp for Fiedorowicz is Heath Miller of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was their first round selection in 2005. 6050 256 both sound route running wall off pass receivers who stay in-line blocking schemes. Like all positions they just evolve with time. I've watched plenty of game tape & he backed it up with solid workout/combine showing better than expected athletic ability.
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I think he is a bit more like Heath Miller from the Steelers.
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If I were to compare him to an NFL player you might be more familiar with how about Pittsburgh Steeler Heath Miller, selected in the 1st rd. 30th overall in 2005. Two time Pro-Bowler, 40TD's & 5,279 yards while being primarily Big Ben's pass blocker.
i actually think he'll be better than miller, but it wouldnt surprise me if he was similarly under appreciated - and similarly a pivotal piece of the offense.
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Default Re: Selection 3.65: C.J. Fiedorowicz TE

I like our TE group.

Zach Potter 6'7" 265
Fiedorowicz 6'6" 262
Griffin 6'6" 254
Phillip Supernaw 6'5" 248
Garrett Graham 6'3" 243
Brad Smiley 6'2" 235
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I like our TE group.

Zach Potter 6'7" 265
Fiedorowicz 6'6" 262
Griffin 6'6" 254
Phillip Supernaw 6'5" 248
Garrett Graham 6'3" 243
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Brad Smiley 6'2" 235
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Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!
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Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!
What's that wanna be-hasn't really ever been Jamie Pukes, eerrrr, Dukes gonna rag about now?

Oh yeah, the QB situation and he's already started on that. That cat gives me a rash. BIG TIME!

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Thinking of Fiedo and Prosch blocking in the run game is gonna be exciting! We get to be the bully! So long finesse offense... hello smash mouth!
If this Feido turns out to be another Dave Casper we won't see any complaints about his drafting.
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