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Default Re: Selection 2.33: Xavier Su'a-Filo

cant really argue with the philosophy, but I cant help but crave a playmaking offensive player considering the health and age of the current leaders on that side of the ball, either that or just keep building up the defense, and then SPLAT! Have a guard.

there's still time I guess.

Filo is a grinder, i'll give him that, im pretty sure he'll grow on me.
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cant really argue with the philosophy, but I cant help but crave a playmaking offensive player considering the health and age of the current leaders on that side of the ball, either that or just keep building up the defense, and then SPLAT! Have a guard.

there's still time I guess.

Filo is a grinder, i'll give him that, im pretty sure he'll grow on me.
Curious, isn't AJ the only aged play maker? He is healthy & should play at least two more seasons. I like their philosophy.
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We are not going to draft a QB. You heard it here first!
You may be right, but we darn well better. We have no one who can even do an adequate job as a starter.
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OB has big plans for Keenum. Just get him some decent protection that he didn't have last season. On paper, we have a pretty decent line now that Filo is on board. Also, this time OB will call plays that will work with Keenums strength unlike Kubiak.
Keenum was so panicked under a rush that he would miss a wide open back in the flat. What do you call that? Maybe no guts.
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You may be right, but we darn well better. We have no one who can even do an adequate job as a starter.
And anyone we can draft will do better?
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Default Re: Selection 2.33: Xavier Su'a-Filo

Walter Football is where I get my scouting reports:
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingre...14xsuafilo.php

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Strengths:
Excellent pass-protector
Mirrors speed rushers with ease
Strong base to anchor against bull rushes
Extremely well built
Good speed
Rare mobility, athleticism
Fast for an interior lineman
Quality run-blocker
Tough on the second level
Adept at pulling
Hits blocks on the run
Intelligent
Good technique with hand placement
Good knee bend
Strong hands
Sustains blocks
Durable
Should be able to start immediately
Good at adjusting to blitz pick up
Could play in any offense
Excellent fit for a zone-blocking system
Could play left tackle if needed
Experienced
High floor
Upside

Weaknesses:
Could use a little more power

Player Comparison: Ben Grubbs. Su'a-Filo's game reminds me of Grubbs. Grubbs (6-3, 310) is similar size and both are very athletic for their size. They are quick and agile to defend speed rushers while also being strong enough to get movement in the ground game. After being a first-round pick for the Ravens in 2007, Grubbs has had a good career for Baltimore and New Orleans. Su'a-Filo could turn into a similar Pro Bowl guard in the NFL.
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Default Re: Selection 2.33: Xavier Su'a-Filo

It's like a completely different team with just four picks. No love these guys. These are the kind of thoroughbreds you win with.
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Keenum was so panicked under a rush that he would miss a wide open back in the flat. What do you call that? Maybe no guts.

Keenum's problems were more pre snap than anything else. He didn't recognize coverage and pressure packages before the snap & make the proper adjustments. Even simple concepts like an overload to one side with a 4 man rush befuddled him (4th quarter in KC).

IF he can solve that puzzle (Huge IF) I think he can be successful in the league. The question is , can he figure that out. That's what sets guys like Manning , Brady & Brees apart from the rest of the league - their ability to recognize pre snap reads and take advantage of them.
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Shilo Keo?
I'm talking Samoans all over the field....Samoan dB's, wr's, o line, d line....the whole lot.
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Walter Football is where I get my scouting reports:
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I don't know, guys, he just doesn't seem very good.
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Keenum's problems were more pre snap than anything else. He didn't recognize coverage and pressure packages before the snap & make the proper adjustments. Even simple concepts like an overload to one side with a 4 man rush befuddled him (4th quarter in KC).

IF he can solve that puzzle (Huge IF) I think he can be successful in the league. The question is , can he figure that out. That's what sets guys like Manning , Brady & Brees apart from the rest of the league - their ability to recognize pre snap reads and take advantage of them.
Just want to say that I continue to disagree with this.
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Default Re: Selection 2.33: Xavier Su'a-Filo OG

I really like this pick. It's not sexy but should help this year, instead of that crappy predictable OL that had the Texans picking #1 in the draft.
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Just want to say that I continue to disagree with this.
I will say Keenum would look a lot better with a running game that can pick up 3rd & 2, or 4th & 1 (a very short 1 at that).

We'd have won at least 3 more games.
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He can probably play G or RT. He stated that he is not sure where he will play for us just now.

Looks like his nickname is X
So we now have X & Q on the OL
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Seth Paynes Deceptively Fast: Sua-Filo The Stout Pear
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Im feeling especially good about Xavier Sua-Filo, who will likely start at left guard this year... Normally Im not this optimistic about offensive linemen contributing immediately. Most of them have awful habits that they can get away with in college, but that kill them in the NFL. Not so with Sua-Filo. Hes not the strongest guy in the world, but he plays with good hands and hips. He is rarely off balance, and is athletic enough to be effective when pulling. He simply looks like an NFL player on film.
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Sua-Filo has the magnificent physique for an interior offensive lineman that I like to call The Stout Pear. A bottom heavy o-lineman has a lower center of gravity. He can take a punch to the chest and not go down, like a weeble wobble or a pear shaped Terminator.

...Sua-Filos technique and pad level will serve him well in this challenge, and he also has a frame that can easily another 10-15 pounds of bulk...
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Default Re: Selection 2.33: Xavier Su'a-Filo OG

Excellent pick. I'm not comfortable with RT yet and they didn't address it in the draft. Hope the "Q" can step in and do the job.
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im just glad we got more samoans.

far too long we were deficient in the number of samoans we had on our roster which was one of the reasons why we sucked for such a long time.

you must have at least one fat samoan in our roster at all times.

that is a key ingredient in winning.
Who is the fat Samoan on the Seahawks?
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Who is the fat Samoan on the Seahawks?
Jesse Williams has parents from the Torres Islands, which is close enough

Let's expand and say you need a fat Oceanian.
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As an Oceanian, let me say I am ready to bulk up and fill that responsibility for the Texans.
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Lance Zierlein had XSF as his #4 rated offensive lineman in the draft...

LZ's O-line Grades, 2014 Draft
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Powerful and nasty. Su'a-Filo features fluid hips and can get around the corner with good quickness when asked to pull and usually finds and hits his target. Will play to and past the whistle. Has the foot quickness and strength to redirect when needed. Tends to get caught up on first man and takes too long to come off and pick up second rusher on twists. Gives up more pressure in pass protection than you want. His ability to move well and play with plus power will make him a late 1st round to early 2nd round target.
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