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Old 05-08-2014   #621
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I don't care if we pick a QB this year. Fitz is fine for 2014. Case can back him up and there's plenty of time to go after Garoppolo or Mettenberger.

I'd even be amused as hell if we ended up with Carr (though I acknowledge that is damn near impossible).

I think we stalk a QB in 2015.
I've been saying this for months.
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We're done. 6 wins or less.
Wut???
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There's just no point in going round and round with a bunch of irrational "the sky is falling" people. It's ridiculous. It's been one round.
I'm mad that this team seems to be sitting on their ass doing nothing. If you have the optimism to think that this is the Texans FO being smart, that's good for you. I'm going to side with history and say they're getting shafted.
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Superbowl winning QBs grow on trees.
Some truly journeyman QBs have won the Superbowl.

e.g. the Dilfer tree or the Brad Johnson tree
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Some truly journeyman QBs have won the Superbowl.

e.g. the Dilfer tree or the Brad Johnson tree
But as I pointed out earlier, 2 in the last two decades.

Those really aren't great chances.
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Wut???
Overreaction on my part. I lost it when Bridgewater got snagged by the Vikes since he was my QB of choice.
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Gotta go with Carr. He's easily the best qb on the board.

Better arm than the guys that went ahead of him and good mobility.
Don't hold you breath there buddy.
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But as I pointed out earlier, 2 in the last two decades.

Those really aren't great chances.
Only 1/32 teams get to win it every year.

Ask Marino about what it takes to be a Superbowl winning QB.
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If people think Bortles/Manziel/Bridgewater are in the same league as the Super Bowl winners, then you can be peeved.

If you think they might be Weeden/Gabbert/Ponder, then you feel good that the Texans aren't wasting 3-5 years with them.
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Interesting opinions from the Browns board. I thought they killed the draft and there is quite a bit of negativity over there.
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Don't hold you breath there buddy.

Maybe he should hold his breath and pass out lol.
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Because the Vikings THOUGHT we wanted TB.
Rd1 = 5 years
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People are upset .......
It looks like to me that YOU are the only one upset, all because they didn't do WHAT YOU WANTED THEM TO DO.

So now, tomorrow, since they didn't the QB that YOU WANTED, then any QB they are looking at, you don't want them to take. But when they do take a QB tomorrow at 2.1, then we will get the pleasure of watching YOU flop around on the floor and squeal like a little baby.

Grow the hell up!
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Epitomy of the loser mentality that has permeated this franchise since its inception.

No need to win now, let's just keep sucking forever and getting great prospects with our high draft picks. Just keep drafting BPA and eventually we'll be a winner, right?

You can't build through the draft if you ignore the most important player on the team. We won't win 8 games with Fitz and Case. I'm not willing to wait until 2015 when you think we'll "stalk a QB."

Sometimes you have to take a risk. A late 1st rounder on a potential franchise QB is not that big of a gamble. Instead we've essentially locked ourselves into trotting out a journeyman QB for an entire year. No potential upside in Fitz or Keenum. We've seen them. They're terrible
Unless you like Mallett/Garappolo/Savage etc... better than JM.
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In the last 2 decades, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer are the only really "meh" QBs to take their team to the promised land.
Gus Frerotte comes to mind. Tom Brady's first SB comes to mind. Ben Roethlisbereger's first SB comes to mind. Those guys might not be "meh" now, but they were early on. Eli Manning is not exactly "meh", but he sure as hell isn't steady. He just got hot at the right time. And I don't consider Flacco any better than the 2011 version of Schaub. And of the guys who made it to the SB but didn't quite pull it off, Jake Delhomme and Rex Grossman sure aren't superstars. Hell, Delhomme came really close to being on the list of winners. Then there's Kerry Collins and Chris Chandelier.

There's no doubt that the NFL is a passing league, but that also means you need people to get after the other team's QB and defend. Russell Wilson is a pretty good young QB, but he didn't outduel Payton Manning - the SEA defense did. It's still a team game.
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How many games did the 2013 draft picks win us in 2013? Did the season hinge on their performance?

How about the 2012 picks? Were they solely responsible for all the success of 2012?

Jeez people, it's a process. There's free agents, there's draft picks, UDFA's, and then more free agents. This team didn't get a rookie QB in round one and it's a disaster? ****ing idiotic.
You have a team with no QB, a washed up hippie at RB, and a geriatric Andre Johnson, in an NFL were defense is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Baring a few freakish picks like Wilson, you aren't finding a good QB in round 2 or 3.

The Texans sucked because they had no QB. They still have no QB. Now we are waiting for a GM that can't draft in the 2nd or 3rd rounds to pull a miracle out of his ass.

Now we are stuck hoping Tom Brady's waterboy knows what he's doing, instead of being another Belichick washout.

Clowney's upside pretty much made him mandatory at the top of the draft, no problem with that. The team is still bereft of offensive weapons in a passing NFL. Carr won't get picked, Mettenberger literally pissed away his chance, and AJ McCarron is a game manager.
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If people think Bortles/Manziel/Bridgewater are in the same league as the Super Bowl winners, then you can be peeved.

If you think they might be Weeden/Gabbert/Ponder, then you feel good that the Texans aren't wasting 3-5 years with them.
What league are super bowl winners? I never said you had to have the GOAT or the most elite QB. You have to have a guy good enough to get you there.

In my honest appraisal I believe Bridgewater has the tools to eventually take a team to the playoffs with coaching. If you don't agree you probably feel good about tonight, but I think we got shafted.
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The only bad thing Derek Carr has going against him is his last name. If BOB thinks he's the guy then so be it. I'm not gonna judge the guy because his brother is David Carr.
Agreed

But I will judge him because of his dad.
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