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Old 08-31-2014   #1
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We know the roster now, any opinions changed? We have definitely strengthened middle for defense and I am enthusiastic about Manning coming back at safety.
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We know the roster now, any opinions changed? We have definitely strengthened middle for defense and I am enthusiastic about Manning coming back at safety.
No, but I'd like to see Tyson Clabo gone and add another DL. Nix worries me and I'm not convinced they have an answer for losing Antonio Smith. I like Jamison over Crick and I hope Pagan can surprise.
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There are just too many unknowns about what our offense is really going to look like. And our defense, for that matter.

OB has played it close to the vest, not showing us anything other than glimpses.

Right now... I think I like this roster better than what we started off with last year. I think we're better on the back end of the defense and in the middle. On the offensive side, we are essentially the same starting group except at QB and FB.

I'm feeling better about this draft than I was last year's draft.

With the apparent weakness of our schedule, this might not be too crappy of a year. Or I might have just jinxed everything.

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We know the roster now, any opinions changed? We have definitely strengthened middle for defense and I am enthusiastic about Manning coming back at safety.
Yeah I'm excited about Manning coming back also. I think our d-line is better than I originally thought.

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No, but I'd like to see Tyson Clabo gone and add another DL. Nix worries me and I'm not convinced they have an answer for losing Antonio Smith. I like Jamison over Crick and I hope Pagan can surprise.
I'm with you on Clabo, but I think Nix will be fine once he gets into playing shape. I think Crick is a better player than Jamison and I think Pagan will develop into a solid player.
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There are just too many unknowns about what our offense is really going to look like. And our defense, for that matter.

OB has played it close to the vest, not showing us anything other than glimpses.

Right now... I think I like this roster better than what we started off with last year. I think we're better on the back end of the defense and in the middle. On the offensive side, we are essentially the same starting group except at QB and FB.

I'm feeling better about this draft than I was last year's draft.

With the apparent weakness of our schedule, this might not be too crappy of a year. Or I might have just jinxed everything.


It won't be a crappy year. Sometimes it won't be fun to watch when the QB's are struggling...which they will. But this team will be physical and fast on defense and that will be fun to watch.
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We know the roster now, any opinions changed? We have definitely strengthened middle for defense and I am enthusiastic about Manning coming back at safety.
I will say this, at this point we have more "potential" depth/future starter talent than i have seen in recent years.

In the past i saw a lot of scrubs on the roster and couldn't ever figure out why, but now it seems we have a lot of upside guys with tons of talent.

Personally with the moves yesterday i feel as good about this roster as i have in a while. How it translates to success on the field is yet to be seen though.
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Different is the word I would use...not enough data to make a better/worse call.
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The season is going to start out slow, but don't lose heart. It's just the new personnel learning the system. After a few games we will level out into a medium grade team.
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huge turnover in coaching staff
huge turnover in roster
huge change in scheme
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easier schedule
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it will be a wash IMO

they will be anywhere between 2-14 and 6-10

If fitz gets hurt could be between 0-16 and 4-12
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Over the past 2 seasons, 14 teams brought in a new staff. 9 of those teams finished with a better record the following season. 4 of those teams made the playoffs in the first season with a new head coach. That's not a wash. New staff and easier schedule is a plus + plus.
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New system, new attitude and 10 rookies! When you look at this team, there is a ton of youth with a blend of some great vets. I believe we can win somewhere between 6-9 games given the talent level and schedule we have. Luck with injuries will play a huge role in getting there. Fitz is one of those QBs that is very streaky, if he can put together a hot streak and minimize his downside, we could get to .500 or slightly above.
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I'm still thinking we'll have between 6 to 9 wins this year, depending on injuries.
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I'm a bit disappointed in the low number of waiver wire claims we submitted after the cut to 53. I expected closer to 10. I think we missed some opportunities there.

This roster is thin at so many positions, still. We've got a backup starting at RT, no T depth, we don't have quality G depth and we have an aging C. We don't have a true Move TE on the roster. I don't think we have a true SlotWR in the Welker mold -- short area quickness & toughness. What does the WR room look like if AJ goes down? QB room now has ~two guys who can execute most of this offense, but not sure we have the CEO of the organization in there, yet.

On defense I'm concerned about us up the middle this year. Powe looked good and awful at different times. I hope we resign Ricardo Mathews. Cushing is a ? and we have backups starting next to him. Our Safety group is troubling. Crick I think needs to be upgraded, Reed probably as well. We need better CB depth.

Overall team speed is lacking, imo. I want to see smarter play on both sides of the ball. 12 penalties for 125 yards (pre-rules fiasco) can't happen. Missed assignments cost points. Lazy minds can't be retained.

I think OB was handcuffed by not getting any on the field time with his veterans before the draft... hell, he saw more of draft prospects than he could his own players. But, understanding that, I liked our draft. Having a full season and off-season under his belt will help him make better informed decisions. I expect we'll have a much deeper/smarter/more-optimal roster for the schemes we're running on both sides of the ball at this time next year.

If this group can get 8 wins it'll be a feat. As I've said before, I think we're one key injury away from a top 10 pick in 2015. And we've got key players who have one foot on IR and the other on a banana peel.

Re-reading the above it sounds pretty depressing , but I'm actually very optimistic about where the Texans are headed. Just trying to be realistic at the same time.

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I have more confidence in the current regime to identify talent. Now it remains to be seen if they can develop it and make the necessary decisions to get the franchise back on track.
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  • If we have significant injuries or injuries to key personnell, I can see the 6 win sceanario. i think that's a worst case.
  • If we get what we expect from Fitz (-MAGIC over -TRAGIC) and the team stays relatively healthy I see 7-9 wins.
  • If we get a good start from Fitz, a strong finish from Mallet, and the defense brings pain... I see 8-10 wins.
  • If O'Brien surprises us again and turns out to be all that we could hope for and helps the Texans be the kind of team the fans always wanted, I see the Colts getting a wild card and feeling LUCK-y about it.

So, I'm going to narrow it down to 6-12 wins
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  • If we have significant injuries or injuries to key personnell, I can see the 6 win sceanario. i think that's a worst case.
  • If we get what we expect from Fitz and the team stays relatively healthy I see 7-9 wins.
  • If we get a good start from Fitz, a strong finish from Mallet, and the defense brings pain... I see 8-10 wins.
  • If O'Brien surprises us again and turns out to be all that we could hope for and helps the Texans be the kind of team the fans always wanted, I see the Colts getting a wild card and feeling LUCK-y about it.
So between 6 and 15 wins. We throw a game because we have the #1 seed locked up.

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I'm a bit disappointed in the low number of waiver wire claims we submitted after the cut to 53. I expected closer to 10. I think we missed some opportunities there.

This roster is thin at so many positions, still. We've got a backup starting at RT, no T depth, we don't have quality G depth and we have an aging C. We don't have a true Move TE on the roster. I don't think we have a true SlotWR in the Welker mold -- short area quickness & toughness. What does the WR room look like if AJ goes down? QB room now has ~two guys who can execute most of this offense, but not sure we have the CEO of the organization in there, yet.

On defense I'm concerned about us up the middle this year. Powe looked good and awful at different times. I hope we resign Ricardo Mathews. Cushing is a ? and we have backups starting next to him. Our Safety group is troubling. Crick I think needs to be upgraded, Reed probably as well. We need better CB depth.

Overall team speed is lacking, imo. I want to see smarter play on both sides of the ball. 12 penalties for 125 yards (pre-rules fiasco) can't happen. Missed assignments cost points. Lazy minds can't be retained.

I think OB was handcuffed by not getting any on the field time with his veterans before the draft... hell, he saw more of draft prospects than he could his own players. But, understanding that, I liked our draft. Having a full season and off-season under his belt will help him make better informed decisions. I expect we'll have a much deeper/smarter/more-optimal roster for the schemes we're running on both sides of the ball at this time next year.

If this group can get 8 wins it'll be a feat. As I've said before, I think we're one key injury away from a top 10 pick in 2015. And we've got key players who have one foot on IR and the other on a banana peel.

Re-reading the above it sounds pretty depressing , but I'm actually very optimistic about where the Texans are headed. Just trying to be realistic at the same time.

OHHHH so that's what optimism looks like
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I'm a bit disappointed in the low number of waiver wire claims we submitted after the cut to 53. I expected closer to 10. I think we missed some opportunities there.
Not to pat myself on the back but let me pat myself on the back and say I called 2-3 waiver wire adds before the cut-down. That wasn't a big surprise to me. I just didn't see where we were going to be able to make that many changes to our roster based on what I expected to get cut.

Granted, I expected to cut Dent and get another ILB out of the deal, but c'est la vie.

At the end of last season, I made my prediction that we'd go about 6 wins this next season but I also said that my prediction would change as the season got closer and I started drinking the kool-aid. Because. I'm an optimist. Can't help it.

After seeing glimpses of what this defense could do, my estimation has creeped up to the 6-8 range. And with this Mallett move... a move I'm actually excited about... I've found myself letting it creep up to 9 and possibly fighting for the division crown or a playoff berth.

So, I figure by this point, I can pretty much claim to be right no matter how we end up.

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So between 6 and 15 wins. We throw a game because we have the #1 seed locked up.

I'm not as small as I used to be. Didn't wanta go out too far on a limb

It'll be great to win a SB someday, but I don't imagine we are there yet. I think this could be a fun year, though. If football was only about winning it wouldn't be this popular. There's excitement in getting there.
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I get the feeling that Playoffs is trying his best to temper his excitement in the hope any possible let down doesn't create such a crash. Good strategy, but it never works for me.....so I just try to be reasonable and let the emotion go where it goes.

The record projections aren't my achilles heel this year anyway, I'm quite certain I'll miss on those. It's all the unknowns. Injuries, offensive look, defensive look, special teams surprise?, will all the adjustments in camp work? Even though I agree with what they did holding out starters, it's nerve wracking.
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