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Old 03-31-2014   #41
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They might just be thinking to draft someone who can play both slot CB + Safety in early rounds.
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Past Texans regimens unfortunately for a long time had that same philosophy. Not having a reliable LAST line of defense isn't a significant concern. OK.

Swearinger was a 2nd round pick that showed some promise. Has some issues. Needs to continue to get better.

Clemons has been a solid starter. Not great. Solid or maybe you could argue slightly below average.

Lewis who has been a starter. Ok depth. Eddie pleasant. Special teams. Ok depth. Shilo....I'm not a fan, but he started some games...Special teams guy..ok depth..

I didn't say we had Earl Thomas and Jairus Byrd back there. Or anyone close. But I do think they are the least of the defenses worries.

At corner you have Kareem who has grown into a solid corner. Joseph who was injured a bunch and got burned quite a bit. No known commodity at nickle corner. No depth there.

At LB you have two 0's at OLB. No second ILB to speak of. Cushing who's coming off another injury. Depth?

At D-line you have Watt...The new NT and two guys who may not even fit the scheme the new D-coordinator wants to run in Crick and Jamison. And Jamison is coming off an injury and Crick has not really done anything noteworthy anyways.

And the Pass rush is Watt.

So yes, the safety position is currently one of the least of my worries on defense. Didn't say they were going to be a great group, but atm I feel better about their prospects next year than I do any other position group or aspect of the defense.
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"It was just so surreal. To get back to Texas and play in front of my family..." Manning (1/2) #Texans

"Two grown men agreeing to disagree. It was nothing bad. I think the world of that organization." Manning on his meeting with GM Smith

Just talked to recently-cut Manning. He thanked #Texans for time here. Said he'll keep his home in HOU. Wants to live here after retirement.
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Danieal Manning's career kick return avg is 26.8 yards per return. 4th highest kickoff return average since entering NFL in 2006. #Texans
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Okay, I'm scrambling around trying to figure out whether it the the Giants or Broncos that released "Manning" and why?


Waited to publish this, but apparently Manning was asked to take a pay that would have put his contract in the neighborhood of the one Clemons signed...
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Would have been a hefty cut, although he'll likely find the market not much higher. What's interesting is...
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Appears we're stockpiling cap room... to target a free agent?... or put it to other use?

Or several? IMO, our front 7 is in shambles. What we currently have on the roster:

DE: Watt, Jamison, Crick And Browner
NT: Powe, lol
ILB: Cushing, Mohamed, Tarpinian
OLB. Mercilus, Reed, Hazel, Sapp, Tuggle, Williams

I might be missing someone, but we need a lot.
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Or several? IMO, our front 7 is in shambles. What we currently have on the roster:

DE: Watt, Jamison, Crick And Browner
NT: Powe, lol
ILB: Cushing, Mohamed, Tarpinian
OLB. Mercilus, Reed, Hazel, Sapp, Tuggle, Williams

I might be missing someone, but we need a lot.
That **** looks terrible.
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based on?
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based on?
Looking at his statement, maybe based on general moodiness? Seriously, connecting this move with some other crazy hypothetical, who knows.
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He always seemed like a great human being. This kinda confirms it. He clearly understands the business aspect of the game to a certain extent as well and can separate work and life.
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He's on 610 right now.

Couldn't come to a common ground.

Was about guarantees.

Has nothing but love for Texans.

Liked OB from the brief time he spent with him.

OB wanted him to stay, but understood that he had to do what he felt was best for him.

Says he's still rehabbing his injury. If season started today would not be able to go. about 6-8 weeks away he feels.

He and Rick have a personal relationship, and it was no hard feeling from either end. They respect each other and realize business is business.

He doesn't seem too thrilled about the timing of this release.

Says he understood that he likely wouldn't see the end of this contract. Guys want the money up front and not back loaded again no hard feelings. Just business.

Will look back at his Texans experience with fondness. Was tremendous. Fans are tremendous. Wishes he could take the fans with him wherever he ends up. Still believes in the organization as a whole. Believes they will do what's best for the team.
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I thought he agreed to a pay cut to stay on.....
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Naw, Tania reported that wrong and retracted it. He had never agreed only asked.
What I heard was that he was open to a pay cut but that the cut the team wanted was more than he was willing to take.
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This might be an unpopular opinion but you don't throw all of your money on one player, even if it is JJ. This is a TEAM game, after all. There are 10 other players on the field, each playing an important role.

You must have slept through the year the Colts didn't have Manning. ONE player CAN make a huge difference


Your man... Pots and pans
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You must have slept through the year the Colts didn't have Manning. ONE player CAN make a huge difference


Your man... Pots and pans
No need to leave Reliant. Healthy Schaub got to the point where he was worth 10-12 wins; gimpy (bad foot) Schaub couldn't get us more than two.
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How does manning being cut equate to rebuilding? His age,injuries,and cap # is why he was cut. Manninng is solid,but you can find solid for a lot cheaper than 6m. I like the philosophy of starter,backup,or camp body and of course money adds into it.

Cleamons and DJ are starters,lewis and keo are st and backups. I'm looking at a combo type of guy for the 3 safety look. Keith McGill in the 3rd fits a lot. Not only because he's both,but JJo is older and needs to play better and jackson is a fa after the season.
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How does manning being cut equate to rebuilding? His age,injuries,and cap # is why he was cut. Manninng is solid,but you can find solid for a lot cheaper than 6m. I like the philosophy of starter,backup,or camp body and of course money adds into it.

Cleamons and DJ are starters,lewis and keo are st and backups. I'm looking at a combo type of guy for the 3 safety look. Keith McGill in the 3rd fits a lot. Not only because he's both,but JJo is older and needs to play better and jackson is a fa after the season.
Perhaps. But I'd be much less than surprised to see a deal made on a new contract. I'm leaning new deal.
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The way Texans operates recently reminds me of how Patriots FO negotiate with their players. The Patriots seems to me pay good money for a key/core quality player only. I think this is the way to go so we won't be tied up with cap situation in the future. Besides, JJ Watt's contract is coming up next season.
Agree with you here. Belichick "South"..
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More cutting contracts that didn't make sense this year. The only contract that is moderately Meh has been Graham's.

I'm with Herv on it feels like there's a plan in place and it's starting with trimming bad contracts. Question will be can this staff actually coach players up and do a better job identifying talent.
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rebuilding mode in full efeect WHOZ NEXT .... J JOE ..???? CRICK LOL how about Chris myers Kevin martin or Andre Johnson ...???? LOL
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rebuilding mode in full efeect WHOZ NEXT .... J JOE ..???? CRICK LOL how about Chris myers Kevin martin or Andre Johnson ...???? LOL
Could be Kevin Martin. OB just said on nfl.com that we had no slot WR. Ouch.
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