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View Poll Results: Would you sign off on keeping Matt Schaub if the Texans drafted your QB?
Yes... let them compete in camp 33 49.25%
No... under no circumstances do I want to see Matt Schaub in a Texans uniform 34 50.75%
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Old 03-18-2014   #21
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If O'Brien thinks he can restore Schaub to a 2009 level of play and brings him (Schaub) back, does this make O'Brien an id!ot in your eyes?
No...

I liked Schaub when I went and saw him in that first camp. I was a big backer of Schaub...

But over the years I saw some things I didn't like. Some physical limitations that I don't think he could overcome based on the system he was in. I thought Kubiak should have given Matt more freedom. I thought Kubiak should have done some things differently with personnel over there. His play calling at times.

I'm a big fan of the ZBS system itself, but I think at times kubiak was too 'tight'.

I honestly believe that Keenum was too amped for Kubiak and that was part of the reason he collapsed on the sideline in that Colts game. The fake spike before half that led to the Dre TD I think was just too much for Kubiak to handle.

I think he naturally wanted pace...He liked the slow methodical approach and he molded Schaub into that guy.

Maybe Schaub is too far gone...I don't know...IF OB thinks there's something there I'd actually be ok with that. To at least let it play out.
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No, I think that'd be the right thing to do. I'm not most people though, and O'Brien is really gonna have to sell this to the fanbase. It can't be coming from McNair or anyone else.
A four game winning streak is all most fans would need to jump back on the bandwagon. But some would complain if we won the superbowl with him.
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I honestly believe that Keenum was too amped for Kubiak and that was part of the reason he collapsed on the sideline in that Colts game. The fake spike before half that led to the Dre TD I think was just too much for Kubiak to handle.
Kubiak designed the play and either sent it in or approved it. Why would it be too much to handle?
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Kubiak designed the play and either sent it in or approved it. Why would it be too much to handle?
I think Kubiak's loyalty to Schaub is what got him .

I think Kubes was pulling for Matt so hard he got twisted .
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I'm just meh on the whole QB situation, period. I don't think our QB solution's out there this year. I'd keep Schaub if he was willing to redo his deal, but there's no reason whatsoever he'd do such a thing.

In the end, I think we're QB-screwed for the next year or two
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Schaub is a waste of capspace. Sign Vince Young, Jason Campbell, Matt Cassel or some other vet min QB to take the snaps/hits for a season if that's all you need. I'm sure they would be happy to do it. Let Teddy or Blake or whoever sit for a while and learn the offense for a season, then try to win the division in 2015.
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Kubiak designed the play and either sent it in or approved it. Why would it be too much to handle?
Because it was an on field call to run it. I remember Dre talking about it and he said there was a signal that he gave Case and Case gave him the go ahead or something like that.

Not saying Kubiak didn't know it was coming...but I think that whole first half was like a shot of adrenaline and I think it culminated with an extra caffeine shot in that two minute drill with Case taking off and running and then throwing the fake spike to cap off the half for us.
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I'm just meh on the whole QB situation, period. I don't think our QB solution's out there this year. I'd keep Schaub if he was willing to redo his deal, but there's no reason whatsoever he'd do such a thing.

In the end, I think we're QB-screwed for the next year or two
Seconded on the bolded. If he wasn't so overpriced, probably wouldn't be such an issue.
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If OB thinks he can salvage Schaub or at least, use him as a stopgap, then I'm fine with that but he better be right about it or he's going to take a major credibility hit.

I'd prefer Schaub be converted into some other asset(s).

I'd prefer OB go with Yates, Keenum, and a draft pick, and work some sort of miracle with that. I'd prefer OB saying, "You know, I'm going to take control of that QB room and I prefer having younger guys so I can create the culture I want instead of bringing in someone from another culture."

I'd prefer Schaub be gone.

But like I said, I'll root for the best if he decides to keep him. So. I don't have any options to click in the poll because I don't really think either one sums up my feelings.
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Schaub is a waste of capspace. Sign Vince Young, Jason Campbell, Matt Cassel or some other vet min QB to take the snaps/hits for a season if that's all you need. I'm sure they would be happy to do it. Let Teddy or Blake or whoever sit for a while and learn the offense for a season, then try to win the division in 2015.


I got it! Sign Vince Young and then draft Johnny Football first overall.


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I got it! Sign Vince Young and then draft Johnny Football first overall.


LOL - and keep Keenum as the other backup. It will be fan on fan violence of epic proportions.

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LOL - and keep Keenum as the other backup. It will be fan on fan violence of epic proportions.

I don't know how many fans could handle that. The MBs and talk radio would be insufferable.
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I have this mental picture of Chris Farley and George Wendt in Texans gear saying "Fans of Texans nation and all Texas universities must band together, to ensure that such a conflagration never takes place"

I want it to happen. I'm convinced it must happen. think about it. The Houston Texans are in the unique position to make sure that THE epic battle of Texas University man-crush QB's takes place. They can pick all three of them up (already got one actually) and let chaos break loose!

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Sometimes a change of scenery/staff is what a guy needs.
Sometimes a new coach is all that's needed. Look at Alex Smith.

Remember, we're still getting our QB (Kaepernick) of the future.
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Not a grudge. I shouldn't have explained a little more. Infantry covered me on that

Matt is mentally beat and as we saw last year. I dont think the team has confidence in him. Houston doesn't have confidence in him. If he had the mental makeup of a QB that could take over a game and beat you with his arm. I might be willing to think twice, but Matt's not that type of QB. Hasn't been the same since his 34ish Qb Rating in the Pro bowl.

#kubiakbelievesinyou was alive and well with Matt.
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LOL - and keep Keenum as the other backup. It will be fan on fan violence of epic proportions.

Yeah, but imagine the air time on all the football discussion shows on NFLN and ESPN the Texans would get!
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I am indifferent.

On one hand I am ready to move on from Schaub. Just deal with his dead money now, instead of letting it linger for another year and then still dealing with his dead money.
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