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Old 03-23-2014   #421
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Should the Texans Dr.'s have messed up Boselli/DDW's diagnosis. Shouldn't the Texans DR.'s said something to the front office about maybe not signing Schaub to that long term contract coming off of his foot injury? The Texans medical staff have more than the avg amount of screw ups on their resume and because of this if there's any doubt between 2 players they should always take the healthier of the 2 at the top of the draft.

These injured or talent but troubled picks should be made in rds 5-7 where there is less risk. (Example OT Matt Patchan is as talented as any OL in this draft but has a lengthy injury history, Crowell/Dyer have had legal troubles et....) These guys can play and are worth the risk.) Want a late rd TE with talent Lyerla/A.C.Leonard are guys that meet this criteria. S Give me Vinny Sunseri.

The only things that needs to happen for the Texans to become competitive again is.

1. Find a QB
2. Develop better draft philosophy, look at how the Pats/Denver/49ers/Seahawks draft and follow their patterns. (I've got very little faith in the Texans Org doing this)
3. Learn how to manage the cap better. Not giving big contract extentions to players coming off of major injuries.)
BTW, A wise man once told me that the Texans were never going to be built the way I want them. (Thanks Texan Bill) What remains to be seen is if the Texans can build a winner the way McNair wants HIS team to be built. (If he even cares about winning) The results have been poor at best to date. IMHO
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BTW, A wise man once told me that the Texans were never going to be built the way I want them. (Thanks Texan Bill) What remains to be seen is if the Texans can build a winner the way McNair wants HIS team to be built. (If he even cares about winning) The results have been poor at best to date. IMHO
I can think of 5 teams that would have loved to have been us over the last 6 years.

Bills, Oakland, Rams, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Miami.... that's 6, off the top of my head.
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I am so glad Schaub is traded... Now I can finally stop having nightmares every time I dream Texans. No more passing it short on 3rd and long, no more marching out crap ST coaches, no more ghost sacks, no more dead play on x and short because our one legged QB can't scramble for crap, no more guaranteed pick 6's each game he plays.
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Good guy Matt Schaub.

Had this posted on my facebook wall by a friend.
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I am so glad Schaub is traded... Now I can finally stop having nightmares every time I dream Texans. No more passing it short on 3rd and long, no more marching out crap ST coaches, no more ghost sacks, no more dead play on x and short because our one legged QB can't scramble for crap, no more guaranteed pick 6's each game he plays.

Ya no other QB does that.
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You're right of course. I'll survive with a good hearty laugh from reading your post.
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I always substitute, "Not that there's anything RIGHT with that." every time I see those clips. Tolerance of evil is NOT a virtue.
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Jesus H Christ guys, it's frigging football and we're football fans. Don't be so sensitive.
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Just my perception but I think Ric Smith blew this trade. Probably sounds silly but imo the value of something resides more in what the buyer values it. In this scenario, Oakland recently said Schaub can start for 3-4 more seasons. They got a starter (in their opinion) for a 6th as we did for Myers. I think the decision of Texans was just to move MS for whatever & go forward. For the record, I have been in favor of moving MS for years but don't like the feeling of getting taken. While I want every pick I can get, I probably would have cut him June 1st rather than take a 6th.

I think that Cleveland not taking a more publicly vocal role indicates they want Manziel. Of course I want then to want Manziel enough to trade for 1-1 so...
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For the record, I have been in favor of moving MS for years but don't like the feeling of getting taken. While I want every pick I can get, I probably would have cut him June 1st rather than take a 6th.
I don't follow the logic here at all.

You've got two choices: you can have a pick in the 6th or you can have nothing.

Having nothing because you think you should have gotten more is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just take what you can get and get out.

In this case, that happened to be a 6th.
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I don't follow the logic here at all.

You've got two choices: you can have a pick in the 6th or you can have nothing.

Having nothing because you think you should have gotten more is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Just take what you can get and get out.

In this case, that happened to be a 6th.
Yeah I know but as I stated, I would have held MS for longer & ended negotiations with Oakland; put the pressure on them. There was a third choice of waiting. We accomplished nothing significant as most 6ths don't make final roster. To me it should have been obvious that they really wanted him. Let's not forget they could have signed Fitz if they thought he was better than Matt.
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We accomplished nothing significant as most 6ths don't make final roster.
Hasn't been the Texans' MO:

1 2013 6 176 David Quessenberry OL
2 2013 6 195 Alan Bonner WR
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4 2013 6 201 Ryan Griffin TE
5 2012 6 195 Nick Mondek OL
6 2010 6 187 Shelley Smith G
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Yeah I know but as I stated, I would have held MS for longer & ended negotiations with Oakland; put the pressure on them. There was a third choice of waiting. We accomplished nothing significant as most 6ths don't make final roster. To me it should have been obvious that they really wanted him. Let's not forget they could have signed Fitz if they thought he was better than Matt.
Who's to say they didn't hold out and maxed out their return with Oakland.. Nobody knows how the negotiations went down. And most 6th round picks make the final roster.. How many 6th round picks have we drafted that didn't make the final roster? With all the holes we have I can guarantee you this 6th round pick will make the cut.. if this pick is used on a player and isn't packaged in a deal to move up.

The Texans were lucky to get anything for Schaub.. everybody knew he was going to be cut.
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