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Old 03-21-2014   #341
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I have no earthly idea what the Raiders are thinking. I just know that Schaub's gone, and it's time to get a new QB. The 6th round pick is just a bonus. And who knows? The Texans could strike gold. Great 6th round picks of our century:
Are you one of those who started counting this centure at 2001?

If we stretch it a bit (2000) we can include Tom Terrific. Wouldn't that be something if the Matt Schaub pick 6 turns into the next Tom Brady??



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If my choice is Fitzpatrick at $3 million or Schaub at $14 million, I will choose Fitzpatrick every time. Schaub is a better QB. But he's not $11 million dollars better.
106 TD's and 93 INT's... are you sure about that? lol I can't stop laughing.

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I think Matt will do well in Oakland next year and wish him nothing but the best.

I wish we could have gotten to the SB with him, but we just weren't quite good enough. I certainly enjoyed being in the playoffs, and that 11-1 start to 2012 was a freaking blast. In the end, he weathered an unfortunate storm with class, imo.

Matt gave us some great years and I thank him for his time here in Houston.

And to get the 165th pick in this deep draft deserves some kudos, front office.

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If my choice is Fitzpatrick at $3 million or Schaub at $14 million, I will choose Fitzpatrick every time. Schaub is a better QB. But he's not $11 million dollars better.
After being in salary-cap hell for 2 years, the Raiders now have a salary surplus and need to spend like 95% of their cap for the next few years to meet the cap-floor. The dead money they had did not count toward cap expenditure, so now they HAVE to spend money. This is where Schaub's contract comes in, because with $25M still left to spend, Schaub was able to take a $10M bite out of that. Now, the Raiders are situated where they do NOT have to commit to picking any one position with the#5 pick, assuming they keep it and don't trade down.

The Raiders still have some $15M, and they apparently are in the running for Jared Allen (does he go to Seattle to pursue a ring, or Oakland to play for his favorite team growing up), and they will probably look at Vince Wilfolk if/when he gets released like he asked (June 1 cut?).
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So uh...someone should probably change the banner..lol
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If my choice is Fitzpatrick at $3 million or Schaub at $14 million, I will choose Fitzpatrick every time. Schaub is a better QB. But he's not $11 million dollars better.
I think that argument would make more sense next year, since we're eating $10.5 M of dead money for our QB anyway... still too much of our cap allotted for the performance we're likely to receive. Schaub's better than Fitz & if we're talking $14.5M cap hit, or $13.3 cap hit, I'm going with Schaub. It's still more likely that he'll have a better year than Fitzpatrick.

But next year.... definitely take Fitzpatrick at $3M as opposed to Schaub at $16M. Even with the $7M of dead money, Fitz is cheaper at $10.3M
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There you are, the REAL Nitro...lol. Between you changing your name and somebody else using the Nitro in their board name I mistakenly thought I was talking to you earlier. It was a joke that I hope didn't offend you. Glad it turned out to be another person, though.



I have it coming from a lot of you.
I changed my name immediately after I bought the GSXR... which was back in January of 2011... over three years ago... but please indulge in my apologies for suddenly throwing the name change on you.

Thanks for your positive rep and comment but no I'm not going to neg you. I don't like to neg. What I will do is give positive rep to those who negged you. I'm going to start with Thunderkyss.

I'm not really looking for a Schaublem but I have no room for mean drunks. Enjoy your night, Showtime.

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Are you one of those who started counting this centure at 2001?

If we stretch it a bit (2000) we can include Tom Terrific. Wouldn't that be something if the Matt Schaub pick 6 turns into the next Tom Brady??





Can't believe I missed that one. The greatest 6th rounder of all time. I won't allow myself to dream that big.
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Can't believe I missed that one. The greatest 6th rounder of all time. I won't allow myself to dream that big.
I actually thought that you ignored Brady because of the 10 year cut off and that pretty much he is brought up oh EVERY time late rounders are mentioned.
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I changed my name immediately after I bought the GSXR... which was back in January of 2011... over three years ago... but please indulge in my apologies for suddenly throwing the name change on you.

Thanks for your positive rep and comment but no I'm not going to neg you. I don't like to neg. What I will do is give positive rep to those who negged you. I'm going to start with Thunderkyss.

I'm not really looking for a Schaublem but I have no room for mean drunks. Enjoy your night, Showtime.

Thunderkyss was joking! No rep!!...lol. He never negged me, the guy was kidding as I was with you.

Geezus man, mean drunks?? Uncalled for, IMO. But you have a nice night yourself.
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He might have meant me.

Hey that is a nice pic, and I agree he does look relieved, the beard is a good look if he is going to be in silver and black. Now all he needs is an eye patch and a hook for a hand.
He might as well have the eye patch (especially since he can't see which team he's throwing TDs to) and a hook for a hand, because he already has wooden pegs for legs.
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If Schaub gets OAK 7-9 wins and we do the same too, and 7 teams make the playoff next season under the new format if approved, then We could meet Schaub in the playoffs at Reliant and he throws Pick Six in Overtime ..... Epic game!!!
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Not sure if I agree with that. The San Diego game showed he can still sling it and win. The question is not if he can still play at a high level, the question is, do you want to put all your eggs into his basket. Is this the guy that you want to count on to make an epic playoff run? And the answer to that question is hell no.
Proving you can "sling it for one game".. proves nothing. That became Schaub's problem over the last couple of years and CnD discussed this before. With his injury/condition.. he'll wear down over the course of the season and it'll show in his play.. then after the rest of the offseason, the breakdown will only happen faster the following year.

We all saw this play out during the 2012 season. Schaub came out on fire, but as the season wore on his play went off a cliff.. In 2013, his play and ability just diminished at a much faster rate. The guy is DONE.. D.O.N.E. Yes once in a blue moon he can have a San Diego.. "old Schaub'esque" type performance, but over the course of a 16 game season.. those games become fewer and far between.

For the Texans to salvage a pick for Schaub (a player they would've cut anyways) is a steal. Matt Schaub will take the Raiders NOWHERE if he's their main starter next season.
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I'll take the 6th rounder for Schaub. Hell, considering our situation that's a hell of a good deal.
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Way to go Rick, almost makes up for the Reed thing, almost.
Smith was also part of the decision to give Schaub that ridiculous contract extension. It's not all free beer and chili dogs for Rick.
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Smith was also part of the decision to give Schaub that ridiculous contract extension. It's not all free beer and chili dogs for Rick.
Rick was The Man who gave him that ridiculous deal ....
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He might have meant me.

Hey that is a nice pic, and I agree he does look relieved, the beard is a good look if he is going to be in silver and black. Now all he needs is an eye patch and a hook for a hand.
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Who knew that Marshall was the Raider's GM?


I have no earthly idea what the Raiders are thinking. I just know that Schaub's gone, and it's time to get a new QB. The 6th round pick is just a bonus. And who knows? The Texans could strike gold. Great 6th round picks of our century:

2012 Alfred Morris - RB - Skins - Has averaged over 1400 yards in his initial 2 seasons.
2012 Danny Trevathan - LB - Broncos - Starting LB for the AFC Champs.
2012 Blair Walsh - K - Vikings - All Pro as a rookie.
2011 Bryon Maxwell - CB - Seahawks - Really came on during the Seahawks run to the Super Bowl.
2011 Charles Clay - TE/FB - Dolphins - Has become a matchup nightmare for Miami.
2011 Jason Kelce - C - Eagles - Key component of one of the leagues premier offenses.
2011 Greg Hardy - DE - Panthers - Has developed into one of the leagues premier pass rushers.
2010 Antonio Brown - WR - Steelers - 2 time Pro Bowler is a fear multidimensional weapon.
2008 Pierre Garcon - WR - Colts - Nice small school find that became a solid contributor.
2008 Ahtyba Rubin - DT - Browns - Underrated player on what has become a good defense.

If the Texans could bag a player such as this, that would really turn a negative into a positive.
I think the Texans 6/7th rders haven't been that bad. Griffin/Keo/McCain. Ets see what Rick can do on his own now.
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Bye Matty pick six.
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106 TD's and 93 INT's... are you sure about that? lol I can't stop laughing.
130 TD's and 84 INT's for $14 million. Are you sure about that? Now I can't stop laughing.
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