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Old 03-21-2014   #181
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I disagree completely. we should have June 1st cut him and created 10 million in space, then signed a couple guys to fill major holes on this team. Last I looked we need a new, de, ilb, upgrade at olb, another nt, a slot cb, a te, rt, g, qb. Yup lets just get a measly 6th round pick and only save 3.5 million rather than gain 10 m and sign a few guys to IMPROVE our team. This whole organization does dumb ****.
It wouldn't have been a windfall of 10 mil. That money would have to show up on the books next year. Would rather take this kick to the nuts while we're rebuilding and have the 10 mil next year.
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I disagree completely. we should have June 1st cut him and created 10 million in space, then signed a couple guys to fill major holes on this team.
I don't necessarily disagree. I just don't think we would have done that. We're going to sign a bunch of low dollar guys to fill the roster & 8 out of 8 draft picks will make the final 53.

That's the Rick Smith way.
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Do you? Money left over does carry over (with limitations).
Bingo, it doesn't just compile and accumulate. Signing guys now will affect next years salary, but if done properly will have no barring on signing JJ and bringing in more guys, considering the cap will go up once again. Cutting Schaub would have given us 10 million to sign an ilb, slot corner, pass rusher this season! Instead we roll with trash or unproven rookies. And now we have a journey man qb potentially as our starter. You honestly don't think that's an issue? You all want to "sit back and wait", howd that work out the last 2 coaching staffs? Maybe if the fans spoke up more and stopped being so passive to this organization they would realize we actually want to win here, not just "compete".

Funny how no one is calling out McNair for lieing to our faces calling this a "reload" year NOT a "rebuild" year. Guess the BS starts at the top and rolls downhill. Oh well, in 3 years we will be "reloading" again when our safety, corner, wr and rb are no longer effective. Here's to being .500 for life!
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I don't think this is a total re-build.

Could not disagree with that more.
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And how will you feel when Peyton chokes in the playoffs again as usual. Money well spent?

When Peyton retires in a year the Broncos will be in a new kind of cap hell.
He can choke all day... if Ware, Talib, & Ward do their thing, it won't matter.
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Raiders sports radio on the left coast they're arguing, "Matt Schaub is NOT an Al Davis type guy." Al Davis.
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Matt Schaub traded for a pick six! Imagine that!!!!
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Funny how no one is calling out McNair for lieing to our faces calling this a "reload" year NOT a "rebuild" year. Guess the BS starts at the top and rolls downhill. Oh well, in 3 years we will be "reloading" again when our safety, corner, wr and rb are no longer effective. Here's to being .500 for life!
You actually believed him? We haven't seen any Texan-O'Brien football and you're already writing him off. That's the spirit.
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You actually believed him? We haven't seen any Texan-O'Brien football and you're already writing him off. That's the spirit.
It has nothing to do with BOB and everything to do with an organizational pattern.
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Are those from Bridgewater's pro day? That flutter looks awfully similar to what we've been seeing for the last few years.
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Bingo, it doesn't just compile and accumulate.
The "with limitations" was not a saviour for your ignorant assertion. Cap does in fact get carried over.

Maybe if you would read a little more thoroughly you would stop slinging around the "everybody" and "nobody" accusations.
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The feeling I have with Schaubs departure is happiness with a touch of sadness becuase he was productive but not nearly as happy as I was when the Texans severed ties with David Carr who did next to nothing besides get a good haircut.
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Do you have an understanding of how the cap works? Do you think money "left over" just carries over next season? If done correctly we will have no problems signing free agents now and having money for JJ. This was one of the best free agency classes EVER and yet we signed Fitzpatrick.
No need to get all salty, I do in fact know a bit about how the cap works.

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If this isn't a total rebuild then one does not exist. McNair is just playing the masses for fools. The koolaid is tasty boys, drink up.

Glad we are dumping Schaub, I would take almost anything for him. He may have a good game or two but more than likely he'll be roasted there even worse then here by season's end.

What are the odds he plays 16 games at starter for Oakland? He'll be yanked for Prior just like he was yanked for Keenum here. Then he'll backup a yr or two and then go play with all his money and his kids and open an insurance office or a car wash.
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If this isn't a total rebuild then one does not exist. McNair is just playing the masses for fools. The koolaid is tasty boys, drink up.
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Andre, DeAndre, Foster, Graham, DBrown, Chris Myers, Brooks... seven returning starters on offense.

Jj, Cushing, Whitney, Reed, Kj, Dj, DMan... seven returning starters on defense.

I don't think this is a rebuild.
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Still no word on what we got in exchange for schaub?
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The "with limitations" was not a saviour for your ignorant assertion. Cap does in fact get carried over.

Maybe if you would read a little more thoroughly you would stop slinging around the "everybody" and "nobody" accusations.
First of all you should go back through my posts and my outlines for previous off-seasons, I have a better understanding of the cap than 95% of the people in here and when I don't know something I research an answer. You may not agree with what I say or maybe I am too "vague" for you but to say my post post was an "ignorant assertion" is laughable.

So let me break it down and clarify for you. By cutting Schaub and designating June 1st, we would have gained approximately 10 m. That alone is enough to sign some guys like Carlos Rogers, Pat Angerer and maybe even a pass rusher. A few guys to fill some holes and be role players instead of pumping out scrubs like Sharpton, Reed and McCain.

Second of all, by trading Schaub you have 9 m this year and about 44 m next year. (assuming no one else is signed which won't be accurate but its easier to do this illustration). If you June 1st cut him you bump up to 19 m this year and 37 m next year. Its not as simple as rolling the money over and doing what you wish with it. With bonuses and pro rations you would come out ahead by cutting him, signing guys and then having a bunch of money next year still. Instead you do nothing now, and have just a few million more next year. Its called improving your roster NOW and getting players accustomed to the coaching style and scheme, instead of wasting time.
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The Raiders' biggest need is still a quarterback. Matt Schaub is far from the answer. He was a system quarterback in Houston, whom Gary Kubiak simply got the most out of. Schaub did play well at times, posting big yardage numbers several years ago when he accumulated a ton of garbage yardage because the Texans' defense was terrible, but after last year, it's difficult to imagine him bouncing back. Schaub, of course, set the NFL record for most consecutive games with a pick-six. This all culminated with the home crowd cheering on his injury, so all of that might still be in his head.

Then again, a fresh start in a new home could be exactly what the doctor ordered. Schaub will once again have excellent quarterback coaching aiding him, as offensive coordinator Greg Olson is one of the best in the business. And for a city starved for competent quarterbacking, the Raider fans won't boo Schaub - at least not for a while.

With all of that said, I don't like this move for the Raiders. The late-round pick is no big deal; it's the $11 million that Oakland must pay that is crucial. Schaub is not a good quarterback, so he definitely doesn't deserve that sort of money. Also, there's a chance that Schaub won't even be the Week 1 starter. The Raiders are still in play for a franchise signal-caller at No. 5 overall or perhaps the second round. If they take one, that quarterback could easily beat out Schaub before the season begins.

As for the Texans, they deserve a very high mark because they were able to obtain something for Schaub. Everyone assumed they were simply going to cut him, yet they were somehow able to dupe the Raiders into surrendering a draft pick for him. That's nice work by Houston being patient.

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Grade for Texans - A
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