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Old 03-27-2014   #1
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At the top of the pecking order: those who play so-called "premium positions," spots critical to success and difficult to fill with quality.

"The premium positions 15 years ago are still the premium positions today," Buffalo Bills coach Chan Gailey says.

Quarterback.

Left offensive tackle.

Pass-rusher, from either the outside linebacker spot (usually in a 3-4 alignment) or the defensive end spot (usually in a 4-3).

Cornerback.

"Those four," Gailey says. "Exactly."

"Yes, those are still the four," says NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly, a former NFL GM.

"Those are definitely the cornerstones," Atlanta Falcons General Manager Thomas Dimitroff says.
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In another thread else where I said there was just 3, apparently leaving out CB. But this article is 4 years old, so has anything changed in recent years ?
This is a highly relevant topic right now with the Draft coming up and the Texans holding the #1 overall.
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Default Re: So what are the "Premium positions" in todays NFL ?

Clowney or a QB? You know, it wouldn't bother me at all if they surprised everyone and took Jake Matthews.

And yeah, those are most certainly cornerstone positions.
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Pass rusher, passer, pass defender, passer defender.

Notice a trend?
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This is a highly relevant topic right now with the Draft coming up and the Texans holding the #1 overall.
Nothing has changed in the last 4 yrs.. The NFL is a passing league now and anything related to it is a premium position. Just look at how RB's have fallen in the last 10 yrs. in the draft.
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Default Re: So what are the "Premium positions" in todays NFL ?

Field Judge/Line Judge
Referee
Replay Official

these bozos seem to determine the outcome of games as much as the players do
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As the NFL game has transitioned over the years, there have been four positions universally viewed as priority positions — quarterback and left tackle on offense, and pass rusher (defensive end or outside linebacker depending on the scheme) and cornerback on defense. That’s been the gospel for quite a while now
Which of those would be dropped from the list if there were only three priority positions? Of course, the most important position is quarterback. That’s inarguable. What about left tackle? Think about this: the past four Super Bowl-winning left tackles were David Diehl (a former fifth-round pick at guard), Chad Clifton (second round), Jermon Bushrod (fourth round) and Max Starks (third round). The quarterbacks on those championship teams were Eli Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees and Ben Roethlisberger, each likely on anyone’s short list of the top quarterbacks in the NFL.
We can debate how well those tackles played in those given seasons, but there’s a larger context. Is there a correlation between the quarterback position and the left tackle position? Can the argument be made that left tackle decreases in relative importance the better the quarterback, and is therefore less of a priority? Last season, Marshall Newhouse, a fifth-round pick in 2010, started 10 games at left tackle for the Packers. He struggled individually much of the season. It had little impact on Rodgers’ efficiency, or the overall performance of Green Bay’s offense.
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QB overshadows everyone else clearly. Lets use the same logic for some other positions:

Pass rushers: undrafted & 3rd, CB: 4th & 5th, WR: 1st (22nd) & 2nd
Pass rushers: 2nd & 5th, CB: 1st (27th) & 3rd, WR: 2nd & 2nd
Pass rushers: 1st (15th) & 2nd, CB: 1st (20th) & 2nd, WR: 1st (29th) & 3rd
Pass rushers: 1st (26th) & undrafted, CB: 1st (4th) & undrafted, WR: 2nd & 7th

In other words, there is no pattern for SB success beyond QB. What is clear is after QBs there are 4 positions which are grouped at the top of the NFL pay scale and drafted in a dead heat at the top - LT, pass rusher DE/OLB, CB & WR (actually CBs are the least often of the four, but ahead of other positions and the other three are in a dead heat). As someone said, everyone involved most involved in the passing game.

Now you can go back to arguing your point based off what a couple guys say, but what NFL teams do is QB...everyone most involved in the passing game.......everyone else.
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Introduction to the Positional Value Pyramid


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 1 - Quarterbacks


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 2 - Left Tackles, Right Defensive Ends, Cornerbacks, Rush Linebackers


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 3 - Defensive Tackles, No. 1 Wide Receivers


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 4 Part 1 - Safeties, Nose Tackles, Left Ends, 4-3 Inside Linebackers


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 4 Part 2 - Running Backs, Right Tackles


NFL Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 5 Part 1 - No. 2 Wide Receivers, 3-4 Ends, Weakside Linebackers


Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 5 Part 2 - 3-4 Inside Linebacker, Interior Offensive Linemen, Tight End, No. 3 Wide Receivers


Positional Value Pyramid: Tier 6 - Strongside Linebackers, Kickers, Punters
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And here's yet another ranking of the most "premium positions" in the NFL:
(1) QB, (2) Edge Pass-Rusher (3) Inside Pass-rusher (4) Offensive Tackle
(5) Safety (6) TE (7) CB.
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