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Oakland Raiders QB Matt Schaub is excited to have more control of the offense in Oakland. "To come to an offense where the coach is looking to give you more freedom, and looking to give you more control of things," Schaub said. "I had that in some aspects in Houston, but there are things I'm being asked to do here that I didn't have control of in Houston. I would have loved to, but we just weren't in control of it. To now be in that position, and being the quarterback, that's such a great place to be because you can get everyone on the same page."
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Interesting to see it come from the horse's mouth finally.

Also makes me curious how this dynamic plays out in Baltimore with Kubiak as an OC. Does he take freedoms (if they existed in the first place) from Flacco, or does he bite his tongue and submit to how things were done?
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Per KFFL.

Interesting to see it come from the horse's mouth finally.

Also makes me curious how this dynamic plays out in Baltimore with Kubiak as an OC. Does he take freedoms (if they existed in the first place) from Flacco, or does he bite his tongue and submit to how things were done?
Ditto on the first. Schaub as a rule looked good when directing the two minute offense. I'm happy for the guy.

To the second, I've wondered how much latitude GK would have to run "his" offence. Will Harbaugh just turn over the reins, or real him in.

It's going to be an interesting season on many fronts.
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Matt Schaub excited to have more control with Raiders

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One responsibility Schaub didn't have in Gary Kubiak's offense during his seven seasons with the Houston Texans was the ability to make his own checks and calls at the line. The 32-year-old quarterback hints that he might finally have those duties.

"To now be in that position, and being the quarterback, that's such a great place to be because you can get everyone on the same page," Schaub said. "You can get into a great play, a better play that you had called. ... It's a work in progress, but I'm ecstatic to have that situation because it's something I've wanted to try and get to."
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

Some people denied it until the end, but I think it was fairly obvious that Schaub didn't have as much control at the LOS as some would have liked to believe.

And I'm not talking Peyton Manning style audibling...I'm just talking averge run of the mill type stuff that most good QB's can do.

As much as I was down on Schaub, I will say that I did want to see how he'd do with a little more freedom.

Kubiak's offense is great. I have some first hand experience with that type of offense. You don't have to have the most talented guys out there to be successful with it. I also know that for the QB a lot of it is streamlined. QB's will almost always perform better in that offense than they do in other places. But at the same time, there are certain points within a game where it can hurt a QB. Overall numbers might be better, but in specific instances it might hold a QB back some.
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

I thought it was fairly common knowledge (and even substantiated) that Schaub had 2-3 options at the LOS, but they were very limited in scope.
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

He had the option of whether or not to let go of the ball ... but yet, pick 6 ... pick 6 ... pick 6 ...
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

My question is this. As an OC does Kubiak's "no audibles" rule still apply or does the HC get veto power?
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

I think the question always was the chicken and egg thing. Was the offense the same for John Elway as for Schaub, or was Schaub not given free reign because he wasn't capable in Kube's eyes?

In other words is the offense the offense no matter who is under center, or is it dependent upon the signal caller.
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Default Re: Matt Schaub Excited to Have More Control of Offense

If Schaub excels in Oakland and shows that he's capable of making pre-snap adjustments, then perhaps the only logical conclusion is that Kubiak was a control freak.

Sage Rosenfels talked a lot about this offense after he left Houston. He said it is good for QBs because it is easy to learn, but bad because it never gave QBs much control to change things.

Here is that radio interview on the forum. It was a very informative conversation with Rosenfels:

Sage Rosenfels talking about playing QB in our Offense
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If Schaub excels in Oakland and shows that he's capable of making pre-snap adjustments, then perhaps the only logical conclusion is that Kubiak was a control freak.
I thought this was pretty well established around these parts.
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I thought this was pretty well established around these parts.
Yes, true, it was, but there was always that underlying debate regarding "why" he was a control freak, i.e. because Schaub was incapable or Gary was unwilling to give his QBs more autonomy on the field.
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Yes, true, it was, but there was always that underlying debate regarding "why" he was a control freak, i.e. because Schaub was incapable or Gary was unwilling to give his QBs more autonomy on the field.
I was always of the belief that it was all Gary and had nothing to do with Schaub. Schaub is an intelligent guy and could make those calls if given the clearance. Gary wants total control of the offense though.
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JMO, but I think it was on Gary. I think he was slow to change and wasn't very flexible.

I don't think Schaub was so dumb that he couldn't handle more responsibilities.

Of course I always hold out hope that people can learn. So maybe Kubiak will learn from some mistakes he made here and improve himself in Oakland.
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So maybe Kubiak will learn from some mistakes he made here and improve himself in Oakland.
If Kubiak improves himself in Oakland I will be amazed ...
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I was always of the belief that it was all Gary and had nothing to do with Schaub. Schaub is an intelligent guy and could make those calls if given the clearance. Gary wants total control of the offense though.
I agree, which is what I was alluding to in my initial post about thinking this was fairly common knowledge.

Kubiak, and Wade, both had a very stubborn attitudes that if the players would execute their schemes correctly, then they could beat anyone. But, that perspective never seemed to put much importance on adjustments and predictability, and it certainly never seemed to give the QB much discretion.

I doubt Kubiak has that kind of latitude in Baltimore. Just a hunch on my part, but I think Harbaugh is in full control and will set the agenda and how they implement it.
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Some people denied it until the end, but I think it was fairly obvious that Schaub didn't have as much control at the LOS as some would have liked to believe.
So far, what I've read it sounds like Matt will be calling his protections, something Chris Myers did in Houston, with Kubiak.

Even in the two minute drill, Chris Myers was calling the protections.
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The Houston system under coach Gary Kubiak restricted Schaub in terms of changing plays at the line of scrimmage. With the Raiders, Schaub will be free to get the Raiders out of a bad play based on the look he gets from a defense.

"You can get stale," Olson said. "I think we've tried our best to stimulate him, to motivate him to get back to the level of play he had shown in the past. He's taken the full reins of that."

Andre Ware, the former Heisman Trophy winner who serves as the Texans' radio color analyst, said in a recent interview on 95.7 The Game that being unable to audible in Kubiak's system is "like playing with one arm tied behind your back."

Said Schaub: "There are things I'm being asked to do here that I didn't have control of in Houston. I would have loved to, but we just weren't in control of it. To now be in that position, it's such a great place to be because you can get everybody on the same page."

Ware said Schaub appeared to lose his confidence last season in a Week 2 loss to Seattle and it "just kind of snowballed" to the point that "he just didn't have that zip in the middle portion of the season that he had in training camp."
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However, Ware fully expects Schaub to return to form.

"The best thing that could have happened for Matt is a change of scenery and a chance to hit the restart button," Ware said. "I think he'll flourish in Oakland."

In the meantime, Schaub has spent the first five weeks of the offseason program learning everything he can about his teammates so he can maximize his ability to lead.

"As a quarterback, you have to be somewhat of a psychologist," Schaub said. "Can I joke around in the huddle to keep this guy loose? Does this guy need a little fire lit under him?"

On a team with several veteran free agents that were essentially sent packing by their former employers, Schaub said, "I'm definitely in that group ... you've got to have that edge or you'll take something for granted and before you know it it will be gone.

"You've got to prove to the coaches, the owners, the G.M., that you're the guy for the job."
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