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Sounds like something pretty obvious.

Andre doesn't have a bunch of years left. He doesn't have time to waste on a 2-3 year project at qb.
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Man I tell you what, the more I research, the more I am liking Bridgewater, for the fact I think, out of all the QBs, he could pick up the system the fastest..


He doesn't have the same arm, but he does have a Warren Moon-esq about him...
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Just don't give us anymore recommendations on FA prospects the Texans should sign, OK AJ ?
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That guy like Bortles ain't never seen nothing like what they'll see in the NFL. In the AAC, they were lucky to see one guy with NFL talent..... Bridgewater even less, because that guy was probably on his #1 Defense.

They've never seen 11 guys work together the way they'll see it in the NFL, never seen 11 guys move so fast, or hit so hard.

We have no clue how they'll react after one game....


That said, I'm trying to talk myself into believing he can be as good as McNabb right out of the box... but McNabb knew he had to use his legs to give him an advantage & Bridgewater... to me, looks like the kind of guy who will "refuse" to do so.... like Aaron Brooks. That's the guy I see when I look at Bridgewater. Brooks was smart & deadly with his arm (much stronger than Bridgewater) but he refused to use his legs to get him out of trouble.

When he did, he was something to watch, but he desperately wanted to be a drop back pocket passer.
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Man I tell you what, the more I research, the more I am liking Bridgewater, for the fact I think, out of all the QBs, he could pick up the system the fastest..


He doesn't have the same arm, but he does have a Warren Moon-esq about him...
Hopefully TB's better than never making it to an AFC championship game much less a SB on a loaded team. Regardless if the Texans pick TB or not.

In short hopefully TB is more than a stats machine and can actually play his best in the biggest games. Wasn't Moon the leader of a team that blew the biggest playoff lead in NFL history? Yeah, I really hope TB has better leadership qualities than that.
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That guy like Bortles ain't never seen nothing like what they'll see in the NFL. In the AAC, they were lucky to see one guy with NFL talent..... Bridgewater even less, because that guy was probably on his #1 Defense.

They've never seen 11 guys work together the way they'll see it in the NFL, never seen 11 guys move so fast, or hit so hard.

We have no clue how they'll react after one game....


That said, I'm trying to talk myself into believing he can be as good as McNabb right out of the box... but McNabb knew he had to use his legs to give him an advantage & Bridgewater... to me, looks like the kind of guy who will "refuse" to do so.... like Aaron Brooks. That's the guy I see when I look at Bridgewater. Brooks was smart & deadly with his arm (much stronger than Bridgewater) but he refused to use his legs to get him out of trouble.

When he did, he was something to watch, but he desperately wanted to be a drop back pocket passer.
Maybe McCarron will jump up into the first round then seeing how he played with and against first round talent. He is a dark horse for me.
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That guy like Bortles ain't never seen nothing like what they'll see in the NFL. In the AAC, they were lucky to see one guy with NFL talent..... Bridgewater even less, because that guy was probably on his #1 Defense.

They've never seen 11 guys work together the way they'll see it in the NFL, never seen 11 guys move so fast, or hit so hard.

We have no clue how they'll react after one game....


That said, I'm trying to talk myself into believing he can be as good as McNabb right out of the box... but McNabb knew he had to use his legs to give him an advantage & Bridgewater... to me, looks like the kind of guy who will "refuse" to do so.... like Aaron Brooks. That's the guy I see when I look at Bridgewater. Brooks was smart & deadly with his arm (much stronger than Bridgewater) but he refused to use his legs to get him out of trouble.

When he did, he was something to watch, but he desperately wanted to be a drop back pocket passer.
Neither Brooks nor McNabb had the study habits Bridgewater is reported to have. That, in my mind, gives him a leg up on those two.
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Hopefully TB's better than never making it to an AFC championship game much less a SB on a loaded team. Regardless if the Texans pick TB or not.

In short hopefully TB is more than a stats machine and can actually play his best in the biggest games. Wasn't Moon the leader of a team that blew the biggest playoff lead in NFL history? Yeah, I really hope TB has better leadership qualities than that.
I know I was talking about his make up in general. He just reminds me of Warren Moon coming out of college...
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I know I was talking about his make up in general. He just reminds me of Warren Moon coming out of college...


Bridgewater reminds you of an undrafted college qb that went to play in the CFL?
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Bridgewater reminds you of an undrafted college qb that went to play in the CFL?
In the NFL of 2014, someone with the ability of Warren Moon would be drafted.
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Bridgewater reminds you of an undrafted college qb that went to play in the CFL?
You do know prejudice/bigotry/racism (pick your term) towards black QBs was an actual FACT in football circles in the 1970s?

And yes I do know who James Harris and Doug Williams were.
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Moon had no control over the red neck good ol' boy network when he came out of college. Had Moon come out today, he would easily be the #1 pick without second thought...

pull your head out dude, it's dark and smells bad and you might suffocate...
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Neither Brooks nor McNabb had the study habits Bridgewater is reported to have. That, in my mind, gives him a leg up on those two.
I don't even think about it. Not even on my list of pros or cons... Especially when you're telling me a guy like McNabb could lead his team to 4 NFC Championship games & a Super Bowl without it.

It's a plus, but not part of the main decision.
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Moon had no control over the red neck good ol' boy network when he came out of college. Had Moon come out today, he would easily be the #1 pick without second thought...

pull your head out dude, it's dark and smells bad and you might suffocate...
No Moon would not have been the #1 pick. Moon was an option QB without big passing stats at Washington. Remember, Doug Williams was drafted in the 1st round of that same draft. Williams played in a dropback, pro style offense at Grambling. However, Moon did have a gun for an arm, and in today's NFL, he would be drafted strictly off measurables. But, not #1.
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No Moon would not have been the #1 pick. Moon was an option QB without big passing stats at Washington. Remember, Doug Williams was drafted in the 1st round of that same draft. Williams played in a dropback, pro style offense at Grambling. However, Moon did have a gun for an arm, and in today's NFL, he would be drafted strictly off measurables. But, not #1.
If I used the rep system this would be a post that I would ding positively. Moon was a victim (yes I said victim) of the times, but as a football matter would have been drafted more on "upside" than not.
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That guy like Bortles ain't never seen nothing like what they'll see in the NFL. In the AAC, they were lucky to see one guy with NFL talent..... Bridgewater even less, because that guy was probably on his #1 Defense.

They've never seen 11 guys work together the way they'll see it in the NFL, never seen 11 guys move so fast, or hit so hard.

We have no clue how they'll react after one game....
We have no clue how any college QB will react when they get to the next level. Is McCarron more prepared because he played against better competition? Keep in mind, he played with arguably the most talented roster in the country for 4 years and his main job was to hand the ball off. You hold it against Bridgewater that he had a great defense behind him. Do you do the same for McCarron or Mettenberger? Did you do the same for Luck?

Also, Bridgewater did pretty well against that Florida defense that put 8 guys in the NFL. Sure, it was only one game, but saying "he ain't never seen that kind of talent" is quite a stretch.
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pull your head out dude, it's dark and smells bad and you might suffocate...


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I don't even think about it. Not even on my list of pros or cons... Especially when you're telling me a guy like McNabb could lead his team to 4 NFC Championship games & a Super Bowl without it.

It's a plus, but not part of the main decision.
Work ethic and study habits - especially at the QB position - are a significant part of the draft/don't draft decision. After the Carr experience Texan fans should be especially sensitive to this aspect of a QB prospects makeup.
...but maybe I'm by myself in this thinking.
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