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Old 02-27-2014   #1
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O all of you draftniks now that the combine is over lets see your top 10.

Mine

1. Greg Robinson - best athlete in draft best football is ahead of him
2.Jadeveon Cloweny- 2nd best, great football ahead of him too
3. Sammy Watkins- most explosive player in draft. Great Hands
4. Jake Matthews- Can play anywhere on OL, 10 yr all pro OG/C
5. Khalil Mack- best pass rushing LB in draft
6. Blake Bortles- Prototypical H/W/Arm for franchise QB, Very raw
7. Zack Martin- Another multiple time pro bowl candidate
8. Teddy Brigewater- Student of the game, great accuracy on short intermediate balls. Struggles with deep ball, long delivery, not prototypical size.
9. Mike Evans- Size/strength/adequate speed/ needs to learn route tree/great hands. Dez Bryant/Josh Gordon type ability. Avg speed for a big man.
10. C.J. Mosely- best player in draft at undervalued position.


I don't think JM's game translates to the NFL. Barr is just not strong enough although he could get stronger I suppose. Lewan just missed my top 10 but if I needed an OT I would take him. Ebron probably deserves a spot in top 10 but I couldn't find a spot for him.

Lets see y'alls top 10.
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Not a draftnik by any means but here is my personal top 10.

Probably more Texans-centric than pure talent evaluation and through my quite slanted view of what a player should look like.

1. Teddy Bridgewater - Just think he has 'it'. Has the mental ability to win in the NFL.
2. Blake Bortles - Swing for the fences prospect in reality. Seems to have a certain amount of 'it' too.
3. Greg Robinson - Can't go too wrong with building from the trenches.
4. Khalil Mack - Love his versatility and well rounded game.
5. Jadeveon Clowney - Lots of red-flags but you just never know. Another swing for the fences prospect.
6. Jake Matthews - Can fill any spot in the OLine for the next 12 years.
7. Sammy Watkins - Can't go wrong getting a playmaker.
8. Kony Ealy - Might be the best pass rusher in the draft.
9. CJ Mosley - Going to be a good solid pro for a long time.
10. Johnny Manziel - Another with red flags for me but you gotta swing.

Near Misses: Hasean Clinton-Dix, Aaron Donald, Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Louis Nix, Timmy Jernigan, Zack Martin
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I will just throw this out there too. No words needed. I sound off in each member's own thread more than enough:

1. Jadeveon Clowney
2. Greg Robinson
3. Teddy Bridgewater
4. Khalil Mack
5. Jake Matthews
6. Sammy Watkins
7. Anthony Barr
8. Blake Bortles
9. Taylor Lewan
10. Eric Ebron

I need to find out more about what's the deal w/ Mosely otherwise he'd mix this up a little bit more toward the bottomish likely bumping Lewan or Ebron down a slot, once I find out more I'll know which spot.
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Not a draftnik but I'll throw my 0.02 in:

1. Sammy Watkins
2. Greg Robinson
3. Jadeveon Clowney
4. Teddy Bridgewater
5. Jake Matthews
6. Khalil Mack
7. Anthony Barr
8. Blake Bortles
9. Darqueze Dennard
10. Eric Ebron
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If you know enough to make a top 10 draft list...you might be a draftnik.

Are we saying who's your favorite 10 players? Or who do you think is most likely to go in the top 10? I'll go with the latter.

1. Clowney - Maybe not 1. But he's easily top 5.
2. Bridgewater - Not buying the smoke that Bridgewater is overrated.
3. Manziel - Love him or hate him, JFF is going in the top 5.
4. Bortles - He's big, strong, and a QB. That makes him a top 10 pick.
5. Robinson - A freaky athletic LT. Those guys go top 10.
6. Watkins - If you like Percy Harvin, you'll love this guy.
7. Matthews - Just the last name alone guarantees a top 10 selection.
8. Mack - After Clowney, the next defender off the board.
9. Lewan - Could end up the best LT in the draft.
10. Evans - A freak that actually could be the first WR off the board.
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1. Robinson
2. Clowney
3. Watkins
4. Mack
5. Matthews
6. Mosley
7. Evans
8. Bridgewater
9. Ebron
10. Dennard
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1. Robinson
2. Clowney
3. Watkins
4. Mack
5. Matthews
6. Mosley
7. Evans
8. Bridgewater
9. Ebron
10. Dennard
Welcome Hemlock.

Hope you have decided which QB in the draft you are going to back and have prepared redundant arguments for them and against every other QB in the draft.

It's the TexansTalk way.

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Welcome Hemlock.

Hope you have decided which QB in the draft you are going to back and have prepared redundant arguments for them and against every other QB in the draft.

It's the TexansTalk way.

Cheers Kiwi.

None of the "top 3" QBs excite me enough at 1-1. I'm leaning toward the best QB available at 3-1 bandwagon.
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all pretty much the same list just in different order with some exceptions. right now this is my top 10 subject to change, will just include one outstanding charateristic for each though there are many-

1. Robinson - size
2. Clowney - speed
3. Bridgewater - brains
4. Matthews - polish
5. Watkins - 2nd gear
6. Bortles - unflappable
7. Mack - understands angles
8. Manziel - playmaker
9. Dennard - shutdown
10. Donald - motor
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1. Clowney DE
2. Bridgewater QB
3. Robinson OT
4. Manziel QB
5. Watkins WR
6. Ealy DT
7. Mack OLB
8. Mosely ILB
9. Barr OLB
10. Donald DT
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Cheers Kiwi.

None of the "top 3" QBs excite me enough at 1-1. I'm leaning toward the best QB available at 3-1 bandwagon.
You and Thunderkyss are going to get along real well. Welcome to the board!
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1. Greg Robinson
2. Jadeveon Clowney
3. Sammy Watkins
4. Jake Matthews
5. Khalil Mack
6. Teddy Bridgewater
7. Zack Martin
8. Taylor Lewan
9. C.J. Moseley
10. Kony Ealy
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1. Greg Robinson
2. Jadeveon Clowney
3. Sammy Watkins
4. Khalil Mack
5. Taylor Lewan
6. Teddy Bridgewater
7. Johnny Manziel
8. Justin GIlbert
9. Jake Mathews
10. Kony Ealy
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1. Greg Robinson
2. Jadeveon Clowney
3. Sammy Watkins
4. Jake Matthews
5. Khalil Mack
6. Teddy Bridgewater
7. Zack Martin
8. Taylor Lewan
9. C.J. Moseley
10. Kony Ealy
You're that low on Barr? This guy was a beast after the season ended, now I feel like a lot of unnecessary hate is coming his way.
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1. Greg Robinson
2. Jadeveon Clowney
3. Sammy Watkins
4. Jake Matthews
5. Khalil Mack
6. Teddy Bridgewater
7. Zack Martin
8. Taylor Lewan
9. C.J. Moseley
10. Kony Ealy

Switch Watkins and Martin and thats just about my exact top 10. I

Just missed Barr, Manziel, Evans, Ebron and Ford.
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You're that low on Barr? This guy was a beast after the season ended, now I feel like a lot of unnecessary hate is coming his way.
I don't see any hate regarding Barr. He might be #11 on a lot of lists. Barr himself admits that he needs to get stronger at the point of attack. By 2015 or 2016. Barr could very well be one of the top 10 players in this draft. But, that's a year or 2 of not having an every down player. That's the difference between Barr and the other non-QBs on my list.
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I don't see any hate regarding Barr. He might be #11 on a lot of lists. Barr himself admits that he needs to get stronger at the point of attack. By 2015 or 2016. Barr could very well be one of the top 10 players in this draft. But, that's a year or 2 of not having an every down player. That's the difference between Barr and the other non-QBs on my list.
Yeah, I'm not sure that Barr is a great football player right now. Don't want a project with my first pick. I want a day one starter.
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Yeah, I'm not sure that Barr is a great football player right now. Don't want a project with my first pick. I want a day one starter.
After the season Barr was an every down player and in talks for the #1 overall pick.

I always had him around #4 with room for Robinson to pass him by. Well Robinson did pass him by, I clearly misjudged Watkins if everyone thinks he can be potential #1 overall, and I wasn't nearly aware of Mack like I should have been.

My thing is, I get moving him down, things happen, but I want to know what people's rationale in moving guys completely out of the top 10 when they were previously 'arguably' #1 overall.

I'm not saying this is wrong, but when I respect opinions, I just want to know why these big move shakeups happen.
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After the season Barr was an every down player and in talks for the #1 overall pick.

I always had him around #4 with room for Robinson to pass him by. Well Robinson did pass him by, I clearly misjudged Watkins if everyone thinks he can be potential #1 overall, and I wasn't nearly aware of Mack like I should have been.

My thing is, I get moving him down, things happen, but I want to know what people's rationale in moving guys completely out of the top 10 when they were previously 'arguably' #1 overall.

I'm not saying this is wrong, but when I respect opinions, I just want to know why these big move shakeups happen.
Not necessarily low on him. I have him at #11. Barr is a great athlete with a lot of room to get better. I would have no issue with a team taking him top ten as long as they understand that they are getting a raw product that will need to be developed. Before, I had him rated above other guys based on his potential and because I was holding back other guys that I thought had question marks. Most of those questions have been answered by this point so I was able to move those other guys up to where I think they truly belong.

His college production was excellent but he was overly reliant on being a better athlete than the guy across from him. He won't have that nearly as much in the NFL. If he pans out you have a stud, but there is risk there.

-Robinson has answered all questions about his athletic ability and thus looks like a lock to be a franchise LT.

-Clowney is the physical specimen I thought he was and I haven't heard about any teams red flagging his physical.

-Watkins is the unquestioned top skill player in the draft.

- Matthews answered questions I had about his athleticism and I am now projecting him back to LT after projecting him at OG earlier.

Mack is a better athlete than Barr and more polished.

Bridgewater is the QB in this class who I think has the best shot at being a franchise player.

Martin has continued to impress in everything he does since the season ended.

Lewan answered questions about his athleticism, which was the only thing holding me back from ranking him highly.

Moseley is a stud. He will be a productive player from the start.

Ealy looks better than Clowney to me on film. People are going to freak out about that, but that's just what I see. He's a more complete player, just not quite the athlete.
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1. Robinson
2. Clowney
3. Watkins
4. Mack
5. Matthews
6. Mosley
7. Evans
8. Bridgewater
9. Ebron
10. Dennard
I like the way you think newbie. Your list looks just like the one I was about to post. Although I might but Bridgewater at #10 and slide Ebron & Dennard up to 8 and 9.

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