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Old 03-16-2014   #101
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And a leader on a 2-14 team that quit on its coach.
More like the wheels fell off this team. I think more than the team quitting in Kubiak the real short comings of this team and staff showed starting with Schaub and trickling down. Though backdooring into the previous year's playoffs had to make people nervous.
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More like the wheels fell off this team. I think more than the team quitting in Kubiak the real short comings of this team and staff showed starting with Schaub and trickling down. Though backdooring into the previous year's playoffs had to make people nervous.

How do you backdoor your way into winning the division? Twice in a row
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So he's gone. Next man up. I wish him well and hope he stays healthy, but that's about as much sentiment as I can muster.
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How do you backdoor your way into winning the division? Twice in a row
Not saying the last two years completely, but... You did see the offense bottom out the last four games of the season prior to waking up enough to get past the Bengals?
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Not saying the last two years completely, but... You did see the offense bottom out the last four games of the season prior to waking up enough to get past the Bengals?
Yeah that was bad. I thought for sure the Bengals would whoop our butts.
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How do you backdoor your way into winning the division? Twice in a row
Being in the weakest division in the NFL can't hurt.
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Being in the weakest division in the NFL can't hurt.
A few years ago, the weakest division was the NFC West. They had a playoff team (the Seahawks) who won the division and went to the playoffs with a 7-9 record.

A few years ago, the strongest division was the AFC South with three teams with double digit wins and the weakest team was 8-8.

These things change.
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A few years ago, the weakest division was the NFC West. They had a playoff team (the Seahawks) who won the division and went to the playoffs with a 7-9 record.

A few years ago, the strongest division was the AFC South with three teams with double digit wins and the weakest team was 8-8.

These things change.
Yes the change. But the two seasons the Texans did so-called back door it, was with no relevant competition in the division. Manning injured Indy first year, then rookie Luck in year 2, who still challenged the Texans. In either year, Houston struggled mightily against legit playoff contenders. ObsiWan makes light of the Patriots, who last year legitimately had a quasi-backdoor season, but prior years, while their division may have remained weak, they still played to a level that I wouldn't consider backdoor level. If anything they were what kept that division from being considered the weakest.

To me the difference is Houston benefited from being in a weak division for 2 years, where as the Patriots took advantage of theirs.

I agree with imatexan, Antonio is not to blame for 2-14, but I do consider him to be a journeyman. I liked his personality and on more than one occasion was glad he was a Texan. He did stay on the field and contributed to more than one great play, but don't consider him as a "play maker" and am glad Houston won't be paying 9 mill for the next 2 years to keep him in a system he's figured not to be an every down player anymore.
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I'm just worried about who on our D is going to step up and get a personal foul when we just stopped the other team on 3rd and 14?
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I'm just worried about who on our D is going to step up and get a personal foul when we just stopped the other team on 3rd and 14?
We've got Swearinger for that, now.

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