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Old 03-13-2014   #61
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These stats are pretty interesting cause a lot of people dogging on Teddy B for his frame and being too skinny were all about this guy.
I know you're not talking about anyone in particular, but I was on Bridgewater about his size, never talked about this guy's size because his supporters didn't downplay it when it was mentioned that he was kinda lanky.

However, I believe they didn't because his game is different from Bridgewater. He's more of an out of the pocket guy where he's more likely to take the kind of hit a thin QB should avoid.


& that's if he's 6'3"

Looks like he measures 6'1" which is a different story.
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I know you're not talking about anyone in particular, but I was on Bridgewater about his size, never talked about this guy's size because his supporters didn't downplay it when it was mentioned that he was kinda lanky.

However, I believe they didn't because his game is different from Bridgewater. He's more of an out of the pocket guy where he's more likely to take the kind of hit a thin QB should avoid.


& that's if he's 6'3"

Looks like he measures 6'1" which is a different story.
I may or may not be talking about you, but don't think I'm trying to throw shots at you, because I don't remember what you or anyone else said specifically and I don't plan on re-reading this whole thing and the TB thing to piece the 2 together.

I have the memory of a child when it comes to specific details. I just remember broad ranging things and could have sworn most of the TB bashers (because of size) loved this cat.

This dude's athletic numbers are pretty wild, but I'm still not a fan. When a QB is too athletic sometimes it's too much for their own good and they will find themselves unnecessarily running because they have the ability to. I can easily be wrong about this joker though, time will tell, but I'm not a buyer.
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I may or may not be talking about you, but don't think I'm trying to throw shots at you, because I don't remember what you or anyone else said specifically and I don't plan on re-reading this whole thing and the TB thing to piece the 2 together.
We're cool, I was just saying.
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lol, good stuff. Be careful though.

This guy is a feel good story, I hope he sticks on a team, but he's just another guy that will be forgotten about and denied support of him next season.
I think he has potential .... Wouldn't spend a high pick on him , but he could develop into an NFL QB with the right system , coaching and .... some time.

Like with all late round / UDFA guy's (Hell , all players pre-NFL) , he has bust potential.
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McShay on Brett Smith: He's not very good
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"I've done four games of him, it makes total sense why he was not there," McShay said of Smith. "It would be unfair to the other quarterbacks if Brett Smith" was at the Combine.

On the same podcast, ESPN's Mel Kiper called Smith draftable. The Wyoming passer has earned some comparisons to Johnny Manziel for his improvisational style, but while Manziel is a bit more fluid, Smith seems a bit more robotic with his movements.
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Never mind that three of the QBs that did go, didn't throw.
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McShay's not very good.
Just like McShay to make a statement like that and not back it up with anything whatsoever.
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Just like McShay to make a statement like that and not back it up with anything whatsoever.
Smith should've been invited to the combine. I like him as much as McCarron/Mettenberger. But not as much as Garappolo/Murray. The top 3 really don't do much for me either.

Thoughts?
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Smith should've been invited to the combine. I like him as much as McCarron/Mettenberger. But not as much as Garappolo/Murray. The top 3 really don't do much for me either.

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I think Bridgewater is easily the best QB in this draft. Not sure if I'd take him #1 or not but he is definitely a serious option. Highest probability of being a franchise QB, IMO.

I like Bortles if he gets some time to sit before he is thrown in.

After that it gets murky. Manziel, Carr, and McCarron don't do it for me. Do not want. I could be talked into Garappolo or Mettenberger in the 3rd, but they would have to sit for a year.

I would be fine with Murray in the 4th. But I think his ceiling is Chad Pennington. Solid game manager but never anything special.

Smith is the wild card. He's capable of doing everything Manziel can do, but he can probably be had in the 4th.
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McShay is ridiculous. "Unfair to the other QBs"? Jordan Lynch was at Indy as a QB. He has zero chance at playing QB in the NFL. Unless there's still a Wildcat team out there. There are a lot of QBs at that combine that won't be drafted. 5 or 6. So it's possible Smith could go ahead of 6 or 7 of these guys. Would that be "unfair" Todd?

I agree with McShay that Smith is not a good NFL prospect as a QB. He's a better athlete than QB. But, he is a good athlete. He might be worth drafting as a QB, and if he doesn't pan out, try him at WR. I really think Smith's best shot is to go to the CFL and keep working. Who knows, he could come back in a few years as the next Jeff Garcia.
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McShay is ridiculous. "Unfair to the other QBs"? Jordan Lynch was at Indy as a QB. He has zero chance at playing QB in the NFL. Unless there's still a Wildcat team out there. There are a lot of QBs at that combine that won't be drafted. 5 or 6. So it's possible Smith could go ahead of 6 or 7 of these guys. Would that be "unfair" Todd?

I agree with McShay that Smith is not a good NFL prospect as a QB. He's a better athlete than QB. But, he is a good athlete. He might be worth drafting as a QB, and if he doesn't pan out, try him at WR. I really think Smith's best shot is to go to the CFL and keep working. Who knows, he could come back in a few years as the next Jeff Garcia.
I see Smith as a better version of Garcia, which would give him the ability to be the top QB in this draft. However this all depends on which team drafts him. Hopefully the Texans in the 3rd rd.

I do think one of the big 3 will end up being better than Smith. Which one is anybodys guess.

Smith and Savage are my 3/4th rd sleeper picks. I like them both. Better than some of the more well known guys.
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I think Bridgewater is easily the best QB in this draft. Not sure if I'd take him #1 or not but he is definitely a serious option. Highest probability of being a franchise QB, IMO.

I like Bortles if he gets some time to sit before he is thrown in.

After that it gets murky. Manziel, Carr, and McCarron don't do it for me. Do not want. I could be talked into Garappolo or Mettenberger in the 3rd, but they would have to sit for a year.

I would be fine with Murray in the 4th. But I think his ceiling is Chad Pennington. Solid game manager but never anything special.

Smith is the wild card. He's capable of doing everything Manziel can do, but he can probably be had in the 4th.
A guy that can do everything Manziel can do must be worth atleast a 3rd? Would you risk a 3rd?
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A guy that can do everything Manziel can do must be worth atleast a 3rd? Would you risk a 3rd?
I wouldn't but I can see why someone would. Manziel and Smith will both need a ton of work if they are going to be long term successes in the league.
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Smith should've been invited to the combine. I like him as much as McCarron/Mettenberger. But not as much as Garappolo/Murray. The top 3 really don't do much for me either.

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I had a thing for Fales... I really liked his combination of skills, size, & experience..... but the more I watch... I'm dropping him out of my 6.

McCarron, Murray, Teddy, Johnny, Bortles in that order.

I feel good that the three are being talked up so much & hope they go in the first, allowing us to get our pick of McCarron or Murray (& if his knee checks out, I'm probably going to swing Murray).

Mettenberger, I like his arm, love his size... but he is the only one of the bunch that I believe struggles with ball placement. It's like he was told to get the ball within 4 feet of his receivers, any 4 feet & let them do their thing.

I wish there was more to see on Garoppolo. 53 passing TDs, 4 rushing, 1 receiving.... 4 year starter... coaches trusted him with audibles.... He threw for 5000 yards, 8.9 ypa, 66% completion ratio, 3+ years starting... I just wish there was more "film" on him.
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I wouldn't but I can see why someone would. Manziel and Smith will both need a ton of work if they are going to be long term successes in the league.
And people are wanting Manziel 1-1
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And people are wanting Manziel 1-1
Which blows my mind. I would hesitate to take him 2-1. I don't even think that I would do it, but it depends on what is out there.

He's further along in his development than Smith, but I think they have the same strengths and the same limitations. So if you're going to take a guy like that, and you know he's going to need a ton of work, why wouldn't you get him as late as possible?
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Which blows my mind. I would hesitate to take him 2-1. I don't even think that I would do it, but it depends on what is out there.

He's further along in his development than Smith, but I think they have the same strengths and the same limitations. So if you're going to take a guy like that, and you know he's going to need a ton of work, why wouldn't you get him as late as possible?
Very logical,

I wouldn't want to miss out on Smith/Savage and 3-1 may be to high for them. But I would consider trading back into the mid/late 3rd rd to pick one of them.

It's better to move up and make sure you get your guy than to stand pat and lose your guy.
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Very logical,

I wouldn't want to miss out on Smith/Savage and 3-1 may be to high for them. But I would consider trading back into the mid/late 3rd rd to pick one of them.

It's better to move up and make sure you get your guy than to stand pat and lose your guy.
I agree. If it's a guy that you absolutely have to have, then you have to do whatever is necessary to make sure that you're the one who gets him.
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