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Old 01-19-2014   #1
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Default Potential Cap Casualties

This is simply a rundown of players offering Potential Cap Saving in 2014 with last contract year in parenthesis:

Danieal Manning $4.5M (2014)
Owen Daniels $4.5M (2014)
Matt Shaub $4M (2016)
Jonathan Joseph $3.75M (2015)
Andre Johnson $3.68M (2016)
Kareem Jackson $3.09M (2014)
Chris Meyers $3M (2015)
Shane Lechler $1.42M (2015)
Derek Newton $1.39M (2014)
Brooks Reed $1.02M (2014)
Arian Foster $1M (2016)
Brice McCain $850K (2015)
Brandon Harris $825K (2014)
Tim Jamison $730K (2014)

The rest offer little cap saving since their replacements will cost a similar amount.

Some, like Shaub offer more cap savings in subsequent years.
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Where did you get your numbers? Derek Newton is a $645k savings to cut. AJ is about $200k.
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Where did you get your numbers? Derek Newton is a $645k savings to cut. AJ is about $200k.
Those have to be June 1st savings.
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NE is in need of a Center I could see HOU trading away Myers to NE instead of straight cutting him.
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NE is in need of a Center I could see HOU trading away Myers to NE instead of straight cutting him.
We are going to get a new QB no way we get rid of our veteran pro bowl centre.
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NE is in need of a Center I could see HOU trading away Myers to NE instead of straight cutting him.
Why would the Texans do that?
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we are going to get a new qb no way we get rid of our veteran all-pro centre.
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Where did you get your numbers? Derek Newton is a $645k savings to cut. AJ is about $200k.
http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Texans&Year=2014

They do have the base salary messed up. Good catch.
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This offseason should be very interesting. I cant wait to see how Obie judges talent. Obviously the last regime wasn't very good at it. Too many mid-round failures.
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We are going to get a new QB no way we get rid of our veteran pro bowl centre.
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Why would the Texans do that?
#1 Ben Jones is a cheaper alternative.
#2 The Title of the thread is Cap Casualties I just thought Myers could bring value with his exit, so if I say Myers is a cap casualty would that be better for you?
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#1 Ben Jones is a cheaper alternative.
#2 The Title of the thread is Cap Casualties I just thought Myers could bring value with his exit, so if I say Myers is a cap casualty would that be better for you?
No, I think it would be a ridiculous idea to get rid of him either by cut or trade.

If by cheaper alternative you mean someone breathing then yes Ben Jones can fill that role.
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No, I think it would be a ridiculous idea to get rid of him either by cut or trade.

If by cheaper alternative you mean someone breathing then yes Ben Jones can fill that role.
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Can you carry water bottle from point A to point B (about 20 yds) within 15 secs? And, on the way back to sideline, kick opponents butt and escape? If you can, I think you will have very good chance to be hired by the Texans.
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Can you carry water bottle from point A to point B (about 20 yds) within 15 secs? And, on the way back to sideline, kick opponents butt and escape? If you can, I think you will have very good chance to be hired by the Texans.
Idk, I'd hate to hurt my ankle on some million dollar butt
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http://overthecap.com/teamcap.php?Team=Texans&Year=2014

They do have the base salary messed up. Good catch.
Those players all earned salary escalators so those salaries are all correct http://overthecap.com/2014-nfl-salary-increases/
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#1 Ben Jones is a cheaper alternative.
#2 The Title of the thread is Cap Casualties I just thought Myers could bring value with his exit, so if I say Myers is a cap casualty would that be better for you?
To be clear, the thread is titled POTENTIAL Cap Casualties because they offer Cap savings. It is not suggested cuts or or even cuts I agree with. They are all players who might offer cap relief.
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