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Old 02-14-2014   #61
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You aren't saying that you think Clowney will attract trade offers from other teams to the Texans' for their 1.1 just because he checks out medically are you ?
And I would look for Clowney to run in the 4.60 - 4.70 range.
If Clowney checks out as medically sound that would erase a lot of his detractors (me for one) maybe not all but more than likely a sound business that does through research into a major investments.
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Regardless of their performance, I respect the willingness to put their talents on display in a pressure-packed environment

If he is a big-time guy & willing to put it on display, I have a tendency to give those guys a little extra when I discuss them in meetings

That's why it's a gamble when guys don't work out.. Everyone won't see the performance.. Plus, it's "all or nothing" at Pro Day.

Prospect can wait to perform at Pro Day, but he won't have the same stage at the combine. Team may only send scout, position coach to ProDay

3. Working out at #NFLCombine allows every GM, HC and scout to see the player showcase his skills. Every decision maker is in the building

Players have a built-in mulligan by working at the combine. Pro Day workout can erase poor workout in Indy.

(Cont) from any workout is recorded & used as the number on the player card. That's why there's nothing to lose at the combine.

Plus, teams will use the best measurement for final draft grade. Whether it's at the combine or Pro Day, the best 40, VJ, Shuttles or broad

A poor workout is kept in perspective because the tape evaluation outweighs everything else. Some guys just aren't great testers.

If a player runs slower than expected or looks tight during the workout, scouts will go back and see if the issues showed up on tape

2. Combine workouts don't negatively impact grade. Scouts use workouts to confirm what they've witnessed on tape. Speed/AA checked vs. Film

Doctors are evaluating long-term prospects. Is the player subject to re-injury or long-term issues based on prior medical history

1. Interviews and medical evaluations are most important. Teams are assessing character & potential locker room fit.
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With the Combine starting in a few days and there being so much interests on the 40 yard times, let me be the first to say this: the only times that count are the official times recorded and reported by the Combine committee.
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Combine storylines to watch: Offense

Combine storylines to watch: Defense

Most controversial prospects in NFL draft

This last piece and others like it are being met with mixed emotions...
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I'm excited to see how van noy stacks up. My favorite prospect I've seen. Love how he plays.
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I'm excited to see how van noy stacks up. My favorite prospect I've seen. Love how he plays.
Me too, I will keep a close eye on him along with Dee Ford. We could have one of them in the second round.
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Deadspin, Tom Ley, I believe this is an article by a Troll calling himself out.
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With the Combine starting in a few days and there being so much interests on the 40 yard times, let me be the first to say this: the only times that count are the official times recorded and reported by the Combine committee.
Scouts tend to keep their own watches and trust them far more than the electronic timing.

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From Gabriel (2/2) “But now, Nolan has crossed the line with this character assassination."

From G.Gabriel, “We let Nolan sit in with us in Chicago(Bears) during summer meetings when he was getting his start.” (1/2)
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Scouts tend to keep their own watches and trust them far more than the electronic timing.



Nawrocki is good for comedy hour.
Scouts have their own vested interests just as agents do, but at the very least there's no consistency. I say have everybody's time recorded/reported by the same official timer which eliminates both inconsistancy and the opportunity of a self-interested party submitting an overly favorable/unfavorable performance.
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Scouts have their own vested interests...
National Scouting puts on the Combine and provides the data. They give teams six times -- 2 handheld, 1 hand started/laser stopped for two attempts. Teams interpret as they deem fit.

They continue to use PET, which relies on human element. FAT(fully automatic) was tested but those outcomes were never made public. No good reason why they won't go FAT that I've found, except a suggestion that those times would be slower.
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Much of what Nawrocki says is common discussion and part of scouting reports behind closed doors. What is shocking to some is Nawrocki is doing it with the doors open in a public domain.
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Much of what Nawrocki says is common discussion and part of scouting reports behind closed doors. What is shocking to some is Nawrocki is doing it with the doors open in a public domain.
"Common discussion" for whom? It's amazing that his takes include analysis without ever actually meeting the subject.

While that might work for film analysis, it sure doesn't account for gems like - "Me first", "not a leader by example or known to inspire by his words", "too much of a follower" "Not a student of the game" "Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire" "Mild practice demeanor — no urgency" "sets a bad example", "not depandable".

Even better is when those takes differ drastically from those who know, coach and have actaully spent time with the player in question.

He's trying to be the scout equivalent of a shock jock. While it might be entertaining, it's useless as a source of actual news.
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Much of what Nawrocki says is common discussion and part of scouting reports behind closed doors. What is shocking to some is Nawrocki is doing it with the doors open in a public domain.
Nice Try... Nolan Nawrocki
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"Common discussion" for whom? It's amazing that his takes include analysis without ever actually meeting the subject.

While that might work for film analysis, it sure doesn't account for gems like - "Me first", "not a leader by example or known to inspire by his words", "too much of a follower" "Not a student of the game" "Nonchalant field presence — does not command respect from teammates and cannot inspire" "Mild practice demeanor — no urgency" "sets a bad example", "not depandable".

Even better is when those takes differ drastically from those who know, coach and have actaully spent time with the player in question.

He's trying to be the scout equivalent of a shock jock. While it might be entertaining, it's useless as a source of actual news.
Clearly you're guessing and really don't know. Nawrocki collects his information by delving deep like actual real scouts do. Nawrocki contacts friends, family, coaches, associates, students, teammates etc. That is where he collects and gathers information on perspective players. A very common practice by full time NFL scouts. When you getting ready to sign someone to a multi year multi million $ contract you want to know more than just how fast they can run on a football field. Nawrocki gives you that experience whether you like or agree with it or not. What Nawrocki is writing is what is being said on a daily basis throughout NFL scouting offices across the league.
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Clearly you're guessing and really don't know. Nawrocki collects his information by delving deep like actual real scouts do. Nawrocki contacts friends, family, coaches, associates, students, teammates etc. That is where he collects and gathers information on perspective players. A very common practice by full time NFL scouts. When you getting ready to sign someone to a multi year multi million $ contract you want to know more than just how fast they can run on a football field. Nawrocki gives you that experience whether you like or agree with it or not. What Nawrocki is writing is what is being said on a daily basis throughout NFL scouting offices across the league.
Clearly your google-fu needs some work.



Come back and tell us how many of Cam Newton's coaches/teammates/friends/family/associates agreed with Nawrocki's analysis.

The next time Nawrocki "delves deep" will be the first.
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