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The Texans may bypass Clowney in the first round and draft Alabama outside linebacker Adrian Hubbard or Arkansas' Chris Smith at the top of the second round.
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According to trusted sources, the Texans are initially leaning towards taking either Blake Bortles or Johnny Manziel with the top pick. Although Manziel would obviously be the choice of owner Bob McNair, O'Brien is not sold that Manziel possesses the work ethic and intangibles necessary to be the face of a franchise.
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The Texans do not have the salary cap space needed to go get a nose tackle like Paul Soliai, so they could choose to target the unproven Al Woods or under-achieving Terrance Cody in free agency . Woods has slowly developed and improved in two seasons with the Steelers. Cody has the massive size and strength that Crennel loves in the middle of his defense. They also may attempt to lure free agent defensive end Tyson Jackson from the Chiefs; Jackson played for Crennel, and since he has not been a top performer, his price will be right.

The Texans will also need to add a big, physical inside linebacker to play next to Brian Cushing. They could look at Redskins' free agent Perry Riley to fill that role if the Redskins do no re-sign him before free agency begins
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Everything about that article makes me worried.
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Everything about that article makes me worried.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. While reading, I was thinking this sounds like steps backwards, instead of forwards.
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If the choice is Bortles and Manziel please give me Bortles. Let someone else gamble on Manziel.
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Because????
I think Bridgewater is clearly the best QB in the class, and its not really close. The more I study the 3, TB is the only one that I think will have lasting success in the NFL. So... the fact that he is not even mentioned as a possibility has me worried.

I don't think Hubbard or Smith are good targets for a pass-rusher at the top of the 2nd.

I hate Cody as a player, and Woods is a never was. Might be a good rotation player, but I can't see him becoming a true starting NT. Jackson is interesting though (as a DE).

Incognito? Really? Dude is a tool, and an overrated player to boot.
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I think Bridgewater is clearly the best QB in the class, and its not really close. The more I study the 3, TB is the only one that I think will have lasting success in the NFL. So... the fact that he is not even mentioned as a possibility has me worried.
I don't see this as a reason to be worried at all. This is just a case of you not liking these other prospects and you really liking Teddy. I do see concerns in Bridgewater personally, but I also see his upside just like I do with the other QB's.

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I I don't think Hubbard or Smith are good targets for a pass-rusher at the top of the 2nd.
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I Incognito? Really? Dude is a tool, and an overrated player to boot.
I think that Incognito would probably play well for a guy like O'Brien. We could probably get him on the cheap right now. Antonio Smith would be extremely happy about it as well.
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don't teams make a regular practice of deception & gamesmanship in order to drive up value in the first overall pick? just saying
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don't teams make a regular practice of deception & gamesmanship in order to drive up value in the first overall pick? just saying
Be wary of "sources".

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...litz-7757.html

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Just some scuttlebutt, but if (when?) the Houston Texans release Matt Schaub, the Raiders could be among the teams interested in the quarterback. Schematically, it isn’t a great fit, and Schaub is more a “systems” guy, but it’s said he has some fans in the organization and would be a stabilizing factor. . . . Speaking of the Texans, some solid team sources insist new coach Bill O’Brien isn’t as overboard on Central Florida quarterback Blake Bortles as has been suggested in some quarters. “He’s keeping an open mind,” one source said. “The page is blank right now. People keep trying to connect the dots to the fact (Bortles) beat Penn State last year, but I wouldn’t make too much of that.”
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Why would any team with the #1 pick lean towards anyone in february before any interviews, combine or workouts?
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Yeah I'm with stingray. I think a lot of bullcrap will be said by a lot of people and none will be more valid than the rest. I will wait to see what they do at combines and pro days and will trust Bill O'Brien to make the correct decision. Definitely not trusting Rick Smith though but I'm sure he won't have as much say-so in at least the QB drafting.
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Why would any team with the #1 pick lean towards anyone in february before any interviews, combine or workouts?
Because the players are judged on football play, and everything is already on tape.

Interview might put you off a player. Combine might reveal injury concerns. There are still some height/weight/speed relics around but let's hope OB is beyond the Al Davis school of drafting. Pro days are interesting, but you're not comparing guys and it's still not football.
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Why? Because he's from Texas? If McNair had an "obvious choice" I'd think it'd be Clowney before anyone else.
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Why? Because he's from Texas? If McNair had an "obvious choice" I'd think it'd be Clowney before anyone else.
Why is that? I think the most obvious thing which can be said about the Texans is they need a QB (which one is another matter).
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Why is that? I think the most obvious thing which can be said about the Texans is they need a QB (which one is another matter).
They're both Gamecocks.

Is this Russ guy just assuming Manziel's McNairs obvious choice? The point of my post was, how did he come to this conclusion?
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Not worried in the least. January smoke screens. McNair just appeasing his pushy Aggie next door neighbor.

First pick will be a long snapper.
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Why is that? I think the most obvious thing which can be said about the Texans is they need a QB (which one is another matter).
I think his point is that the owner has not said much if anything about Manziel, while we have direct quotes from him discussing Clowney. Not to mention S.C. is his Alma Mater.
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Is this Russ guy just assuming Manziel's McNairs obvious choice? The point of my post was, how did he come to this conclusion?
I think either 1) some people think McNair went to A&M or 2) because he's so close that McNair "saw" all of the JFF uproar. Like cable television doesn't reach across the country.

I've seen same said about Jaguars "obvious" interest in Bortles because he's "right there in their back yard." Silly.
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Russ Lande = one of the guys who had Nassib #1 overall on his big board last year.
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Because the players are judged on football play, and everything is already on tape.

Interview might put you off a player. Combine might reveal injury concerns. There are still some height/weight/speed relics around but let's hope OB is beyond the Al Davis school of drafting. Pro days are interesting, but you're not comparing guys and it's still not football.
Agreed, so why would the Texans lean bortles and manziel over Teddy B. when Teddys play was just as good or better. I understand if they have them ranked higher than boyd because the tape shows that they played better than him.
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