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Old 05-29-2014   #21
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And AJ is there for none of this, he is going to be so behind when he comes back. Why in the hell is he doing this anyways it makes no sense. He is only hurting the team with this childish BS.
I find these kind of opinions childish. Wha wha he's hurting my team sob sob. This isn't entertainment to him it's his career. The "he wants more money" crowd is silly to. He has never once said he wants more money. I don't see what's so complicated here. He has two maybe three more productive ( by his standard) years remaining and he's not sure he wants to go out on a rebuilding team. He's worked his ass off for twelve years for this franchise and now he's seeing the end of the road and human nature is taking over. He is a great competitor and wants to win. And don't respond with that he's under contract crap. ( not you in particular Ellis) He has every right to do what he is doing just like the texans have the right to void his contract if they see fit.
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If I were AJ, I'd be very unhappy with this organization as well. When you are a superstar nearing the end of your career, you don't want to just waste your last few years helping a team start over. He's already helped this team go from the very beginning to 12-4 and 2 playoff wins, only to see it's QB fall apart and go away. He's not thinking about money; he's thinking about the Hall of Fame and Superbowl ring(s).

At this point, I'd be up for a trade, if we can get something worth it. If he wants a trade, he's earned it. He's earned whatever he wants and however he wants to deal with the situation.
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And AJ is... hurting the team with this childish BS.
It's just business.
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His behavior lately is rapidly depleting all of that good will that he's established with the fan base over the years. I know it is with me.
What behavior? Answering questions he's asked and missing voluntary workouts?

People are making way to big a deal out of this right now.
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What behavior? Answering questions he's asked and missing voluntary workouts?

People are making way to big a deal out of this right now.
The workouts right now aren't voluntary.

Right now, he is absolutely hurting this team.

Great respect for what he has done as an athlete, but not much respect for him as a man right now.
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Isn't there already a thread on AJ?
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A whole lot less worried about AJ "catching up" vs. worrying about the other young WR picking the system up first.

The "childish BS" is honestly one of the only ways players can show their displeasure. We've been spolied in Houston by a severe drought of holdouts. With most other teams, a guy missing OTAs is a *yawn* inducing affair.
yes but he is not demanding a trade, new contract or to be cut he has no demands so holding out is really useless it makes no sense.
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The workouts right now aren't voluntary.

Right now, he is absolutely hurting this team.

Great respect for what he has done as an athlete, but not much respect for him as a man right now.
Whether AJ is hurting the team or not, these OTA's are absolutely voluntary.
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What behavior? Answering questions he's asked and missing voluntary workouts?

People are making way to big a deal out of this right now.
As they say, actions(behavior) speak louder than words, and his behavior in the form of his absence from the current work outs (which are voluntary in only the most technical sense, especially with a new regime running the Texans now), is speaking volumes.
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I guess he can prolong his career by not being on the field if he doesn't know the NASCAR playbook. He can also lighten his wallet when he's fined for missing MANDATORY workouts. Until either/both of those happen we're just in a waiting pattern.
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The workouts right now aren't voluntary.

Right now, he is absolutely hurting this team.

Great respect for what he has done as an athlete, but not much respect for him as a man right now.
DocBar handled this pretty well.
How do you think he is hurting the team exactly?

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As they say, actions(behavior) speak louder than words, and his behavior in the form of his absence from the current work outs (which are voluntary in only the most technical sense, especially with a new regime running the Texans now), is speaking volumes.
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that voluntary had multiple meanings. If they are voluntary "in only the most technical sense" then we'll see the coaches bench him, trade him, or whatever they see fit. Until then, I'll listen to what O'Brien is saying and assume that no one has any anger at AJ for missing these right now.
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I think childish is the perfect word for this discussion. Just not for AJ.
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How do you think he is hurting the team exactly?
By not being there. Exactly.
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By not being there. Exactly.
Great job repeating yourself and avoiding the question.

How does that hurt the team?
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By not being there. Exactly.
Uh huh please explain.
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The workouts right now aren't voluntary.
If by "aren't voluntary", you mean "are voluntary", you are correct. Keep up the good work.

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If anything, AJ's absence allows the other WRs to get more reps. That's always a good thing.
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Anyone who thinks AJ not being there is a good thing is a fool. He was a leader on this team, and someone to help the rookies and younger players by showing them how you prepare as a pro. How you perform as a pro. How to conduct yourself on and off the field as a pro. Now he is nothing more than yet another spoiled brat whining so they can have their way. Very disappointing, and yes because this is a new regime and now more than ever the leadership on this team needs to be there and learn, and teach, and help build ... it hurts the team.
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Why do head coaches allow veterans to sit out of OTA's if it's never a good thing?

Do you think not having that extra wear and tear on his body could be a good thing at this point in AJ's career?

I'd be careful throwing the fool tag around, all things considered.
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Why do head coaches allow veterans to sit out of OTA's if it's never a good thing?

Do you think not having that extra wear and tear on his body could be a good thing at this point in AJ's career?

I'd be careful throwing the fool tag around, all things considered.
He could at least be there to observe and learn the new offense.
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