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Old 02-04-2014   #161
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Yes, a mere formality sums it up nicely. Still think Schaub's a virtual lock to the Ravens.
I'd be surprised if Schaub can't get a job where he can at least compete for a starting spot.
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Old 02-04-2014   #162
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I betcha prob granturee Schaub will be a starter next year for some other team if he does not stay here


he may be a backup at first but the guy in front of him will suck some how and ol matt will find himself thrust into action
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Schaub will definitely be a starter next season. He had a bad season, but until he has another one, 2013 was an aberration. He hasn't been this bad before. He's not clutch and he is not elite, but he is better than at least 1/3 of the starters in the league if he can move past this last season and get to his previous self.
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Schaub's been regressing since his injury, what makes you think he'll not only get better with age but also that his injury won't be more impactful as he gets older? He's played horrible since the last quarter of 2012.
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Schaub's been regressing since his injury, what makes you think he'll not only get better with age but also that his injury won't be more impactful as he gets older? He's played horrible since the last quarter of 2012.
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wait! wait! wait!


does this sound familiar to ANYBODY right now...

New HC comes in with lame duck QB and tells McNair, sure I can work with him, ONLY to cut his sorry ass the next year while taking a DE #1 (could happen) overall in the draft that year...

What was the definition of insanity because this is shaping up to look like
deja 'vu all over again. Did I just walk back into 2006?

Matt Schaub does not give you the best chance to win, because he is not a winner, period. Especially coming into a new system that O'Brien is installing.

Cut him, move on and either draft your next QB o trade for one, as long as that sum-mama B never puts on the #8 in a Texans uni I don't give a damn...

I think Marshall Faulk was hitting the ol' bong'o a little hard the day he said this....
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sometimes these older dudes older then Schaub have there one last hurrahhh


see Kerry Collins who led the titans to the #1 seed one time
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sometimes these older dudes older then Schaub have there one last hurrahhh


see Kerry Collins who led the titans to the #1 seed one time
Degenerative injury, he isn't going to get better, just progressively less effective.

His peak performance potential is declining continiously, and his peak performance this year was not starter material.
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Default Re: "Matt Schaub gives Texans best chance to win in 2014" -Marshall Faulk

His last pass as a Texan was an interception. That's not just a current fact, that will be recorded history. He's done here folks, nothing more to see. Turn your post season angst elsewhere. Between cap hits, injuries and down right mediocre play throughout his career, he's done. Gary's project gone wrong. We've seen what happens to "Gary" guys with the new regime, they get axed. It's over, maybe for all of them, TJ & Keenum included. The draft and free agency will be fun!
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I'd be surprised if Schaub can't get a job where he can at least compete for a starting spot.
I doubt it. At best I see him signing on with another team to compete for the backup spot. Perhaps the Baltimore Ravens would be a good fit for him. He can backup Joe Flacco and he's already familiar with Gary Kubiak's offense.
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I doubt it. At best I see him signing on with another team to compete for the backup spot. Perhaps the Baltimore Ravens would be a good fit for him. He can backup Joe Flacco and he's already familiar with Gary Kubiak's offense.
Yeah and Gary Kubiak and his antiquated offense won't be getting a job either. Oh, wait...
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Schaub will definitely be a starter next season. He had a bad season, but until he has another one, 2013 was an aberration. He hasn't been this bad before. He's not clutch and he is not elite, but he is better than at least 1/3 of the starters in the league if he can move past this last season and get to his previous self.
Tell me more about this 1/3 of the league in 2013?
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Yeah and Gary Kubiak and his antiquated offense won't be getting a job either. Oh, wait...
I don't remember anybody ever saying that, at least as OC jobs go. In fact Gary is right where he should be, an OC...

I think Gary has far better tools at the QB spot, to work with in Baltimore than he ever did with the Texans. He will have success, Rice will look like what Foster did in Gary's offense. Pitta will be a Pro Bowl TE in Gary's offense...

Gary's offense worked, problem was he was too egotistic and stubborn to change the parts that didn't work and it ultimately got him fired...

Loyal to a fault...
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I don't remember anybody ever saying that, at least as OC jobs go. In fact Gary is right where he should be, an OC...

Loyal to a fault...
Your memory is selective. Tons of people said Kubiak and for that matter Shanahan's offense was antiquated around here. Some folks said, no the QB position just cratered this season.
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Your memory is selective. Tons of people said Kubiak and for that matter Shanahan's offense was antiquated around here. Some folks said, no the QB position just cratered this season.
Some said Schaub cratered and Gary needed to change SOME parts of his offense. More deep balls for example. Less 3rd and 15 screens/draws.

Was the bootleg with Schaub scaring defenses? I know they scared me more than defenses. LOL
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Some said Schaub cratered and Gary needed to change SOME parts of his offense. More deep balls for example. Less 3rd and 15 screens/draws.

Was the bootleg with Schaub scaring defenses? I know they scared me more than defenses. LOL
I am talking about one particular kind of statement which was made, not re-debating all of Schaub or Kubiak's existence.

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This was not an uncommon opinion as the season progressed.
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Degenerative injury, he isn't going to get better, just progressively less effective.

His peak performance potential is declining continuously, and his peak performance this year was not starter material.
Agree with Cak, and in regards to the degenerative injury... with all due respect to the Doc, this is speculation. If this is true, and I am not saying it isn't, I suspect Schaub will not pass a physical, unless he is being brought in as a backup only, and even then, it would be too risky for a team to invest money in a player they know has a degenerative injury.

What did Doc have to say regarding the Ed Reed injury when it was discovered? Did he nail that one?
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What did Doc have to say regarding the Ed Reed injury when it was discovered? Did he nail that one?
Yes, he did.
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Yes, he did.
Wow, impressive! I would be interested to read that. Have the link?
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Yes, he did.
Duh. Dude could tell us right now whether Bridgewater or Manziel will have an injury their rookie year.

Somebody ask him........seriously...
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