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Old 02-13-2014   #261
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Obsessive tendencies? LOL See Lucky's post about your posting tendencies. I just call people out when they refuse to listen to what other intelligent posters say, (C-N-D/Icak/Lucky/anybody with 1/2 a brain) Schaub is hurt, back it up with research, things play out the way that they say it will play out and you still cant bring yourself to admit that there's even a chance that YOU could be wrong. It must be great being YOU, always the smartest man in the room. (Are you Matt/Gary's relative? Hell, Gary's relatives are on this MB and they're more objective when it comes to Schaub than you are. (Not really surprising. I really am thinking about stopping replying to you because it is a waste of my time.

I didn't ask you what Faulk thought. I asked what you thought? Or are you able to think for yourself?

Faulk has never been the smartest man in the room when it comes to talking football on NFLN. But since you agree with him IYO he is.

Tell me have you heard Faulk analyze other teams? If so, why would you have the opinion of Faulk that you do?

Oh that's right, he agrees with you?
You guys all read stuff into my posts that are just not there. I never said I had a high opinion of Faulk, and as my good buddy Lucky points out below, I was getting tired of his Schaub bashing too. But that's the thing. He is clearly as big or bigger Schaub basher than any of you, so what would be his motive to now say what he did? I know it is hard for you guys to stay on topic, and all you want to do is attack me, but you could at least try a little harder.

Regarding stopping replying to me. Go ahead. Won't hurt my feelings, and then you can go back to thinking you are part of the intelligent people who post here. I love who you say I think I am the smartest guy in the room, and then spout off about being part of the intelligent posters on the board. Good stuff.

Nothing... nothing any of you have predicted came true. You insistence that Matt Schaub had a bad year because of his foot is nothing but speculation, so please spare me the Nostradamus act. You believe it was the foot, I believe Schaub needs help from a good O Line. Neither opinion is smarter, or more right than the other. Get over yourself and your belief that you have it all locked in. Prove something, then crow how cool and smart you are.

You just keep attacking the messenger, not the message.

At least I have an original thought. It's you who just parrots what the rest of the cool guys are saying.

We all know what your motivation for saying the things you do is. But what motivation would someone like Faulk have to say what he did. Does he not get enough face time? Is he known for going against the grain just for the sake of doing it? Stop putting words in my mouth, stop trying to label me. Get your own opinion instead of this talk radio opinion you have formed when like minded callers like you call in and make you nod you head in approval while listening.

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He didn't think so highly of Faulk's opinion in October.


Didn't like Faulk when he called for benching Schaub in October. But Faulk is the ultimate authority now. OK.
See, the point goes right over your head. The fact that he has been, and is the biggest Schaub basher in the world gives him credibility in what he says now. That given the circumstances the Texans find themselves in, Schaub is their best best to win in 2014.

He is not saying Schaub is his guy, or that he was wrong about what he said previously. He clearly still holds Schaub in low regard, but still also says he gives the team the best chance in a quick turn around.

Here is the thing I wish both of you would do. Stop reading and posting in this thread. If it is such a waste of your time, why do you keep doing it? Create your own highly intelligent thread where post count, and join date matter. You are obviously wasting your superior intellect on a weak minded loser like me.

Please spare us all any more if your obviously superior commentary in this thread, because us feeble minded members cannot comprehend your complex, insightful thoughts on the topic.
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Since when do you gain credibility by flip flopping on issues?

I do not think the Prius drives well.

I now think the Prius drives well with no new knowledge on the issue.

I am now an expert on this issue.
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Old 02-14-2014   #264
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You guys all read stuff into my posts that are just not there. I never said I had a high opinion of Faulk, and as my good buddy Lucky points out below, I was getting tired of his Schaub bashing too. But that's the thing. He is clearly as big or bigger Schaub basher than any of you, so what would be his motive to now say what he did?
You think Faulk was wrong then in his belief that Schaub should have been benched, but agree with him now when he says Schaub should be kept as the Texans QB? I thought Faulk was correct then, but is wrong now. What's the difference? Faulk is not correct in everything he says regarding the Texans (according to both of us). So maybe we should both stop holding him up as an expert in all things Schaub and Texans?

As far as labeling is concerned, you've labeled posters as Schaub bashers after any criticism of him. And no one as called you a douche or inferred that you were high on weed. So please, stop playing the victim.
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Since when do you gain credibility by flip flopping on issues?

I do not think the Prius drives well.

I now think the Prius drives well with no new knowledge on the issue.

I am now an expert on this issue.
Again you miss the point. The point is not a flip flop. He is not saying he loves him some Schaub now. It is a realistic assessment of the current situation, and the goal set forth by the owner, which is a quick turnaround.

I do not think the Prius drives well.

The other cars I have the option of driving drive even worse, so I think the Prius drives better than them, so for now, it's my best option to get to my destination.

oh look... Common sense. I guess it's true what they say. Common sense is not as common as it should be.

Stop getting it twisted. He is not saying he wants the Prius, but given the options available, he thinks the Prius will get you were you want to go faster than starting over. Again, if the goal is to turn it around this year, and keep the Super Bowl window from closing, in his opinion, given the circumstances, and the available options, MS is the Texans best chance.

Why is that so hard for you guys to grasp? Does your blind hatred for Schaub keep you from being objective? Silly question, I know.
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Does your blind hatred for Schaub keep you for being objective? Silly question, I know.
And there you go again.
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You think Faulk was wrong then in his belief that Schaub should have been benched, but agree with him now when he says Schaub should be kept as the Texans QB? I thought Faulk was correct then, but is wrong now. What's the difference? Faulk is not correct in everything he says regarding the Texans (according to both of us). So maybe we should both stop holding him up as an expert in all things Schaub and Texans?

As far as labeling is concerned, you've labeled posters as Schaub bashers after any criticism of him. And no one as called you a douche or inferred that you were high on weed. So please, stop playing the victim.
Where did I say I agree with him again? I said it was time to move on from Schaub multiple times now, but you cannot seem to stop blaming me for what Faulk said, as if I said it. I didn't, I don't, and Schaub will not be the QB for the Texans this season, regardless what you, I, or Faulk thinks.

The question was, is he right or wrong, and why? But all you guys can do is repeat this foot mantra over and over again as if it is fact, when it's not. In addition, you make Schaub about to be the biggest scrub on the planet, which is also just your belief.

Oh hep me, hep me... I am a victim.
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He is clearly as big or bigger Schaub basher than any of you, so what would be his motive to now say what he did?
Faulk has never liked the Houston Texans.

So, suggesting that we keep a QB who is way past his prime is a way to try to influence us to suck again. Or at least create controversy among the fan base (i.e. this thread) so we can talk about a guy that we never talk about (Faulk). Dude is a narcissist.

It would be like me saying Jerry Jones is now a great GM and should continue to be the GM of the Dallas Cowboys for another decade. Reasoning: getting another GM would set the franchise back as he has to implement his staff, but they want to win now, so just keep status quo. Ulterior motive: I don't like the Cowboys and hope he stays the GM so they continue to flounder.
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Faulk has never liked the Houston Texans.

So, suggesting that we keep a QB who is way past his prime is a way to try to influence us to suck again. Or at least create controversy among the fan base (i.e. this thread) so we can talk about a guy that we never talk about (Faulk). Dude is a narcissist.

It would be like me saying Jerry Jones is now a great GM and should continue to be the GM of the Dallas Cowboys for another decade. Reasoning: getting another GM would set the franchise back as he has to implement his staff, but they want to win now, so just keep status quo. Ulterior motive: I don't like the Cowboys and hope he stays the GM so they continue to flounder.
I can relate to that, but then how do you explain Bucky Brooks, and then the next person who shares the same view? Are they all just trying to influence the fan base, or ownership? I think that is a bit of a reach. Where do you get the fact that Faulk has never liked the Texans? Because he is critical of them?

I agree Faulk is a narcissist, but let's keep in mind Vandermeer sought him out, and asked him the question. It's not like Faulk was whoring around trying to get someone to ask him about the Texans. If he is such a blow hard then why did Vandermeer seek him out for his opinion, why does the ?

Even if that were Faulk's motive, and I doubt that, why not just say something even more bizarre like start Yates, or bring in VY?
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I can relate to that, but then how do you explain Bucky Brooks, and then the next person who shares the same view? Are they all just trying to influence the fan base, or ownership? I think that is a bit of a reach. Where do you get the fact that Faulk has never liked the Texans? Because he is critical of them?

I agree Faulk is a narcissist, but let's keep in mind Vandermeer sought him out, and asked him the question. It's not like Faulk was whoring around trying to get someone to ask him about the Texans. If he is such a blow hard then why did Vandermeer seek him out for his opinion, why does the ?

Even if that were Faulk's motive, and I doubt that, why not just say something even more bizarre like start Yates, or bring in VY?
My perspective on Faulk and the Texans just comes from years of listening to his opinions. He was dogging the team when they were going to the playoffs and never thought they were a good team but rather the beneficiaries of a weak division and no Peyton Manning.

Perhaps his loyalty to the Colts makes him lose objectivity toward division opponents? I don't know the reason(s), but just telling it like I see it.

For instance, here is Faulk on May 15, 2012, predicting the team would miss the playoffs. For whatever reason, he picked the Texans instead of a team like the Bengals. Why?

Which 2011 playoff team will miss out in 2012?

Just listen to his tone. It's not analytical, but dismissive. This is just one of many examples over the years, which is why his current stance on Schaub is so curious.

Is he biased or is he objective? I've just seen a clear pattern over a period of time where he has never seemed to have held a high opinion of this franchise. It often gave a vibe that he did not look at game film but spews an opinion based on recollection.

I'm not going to speculate about what's in the man's head. All I can do is gather information, formulate my own opinions, and speak from that perspective.

I understand what he and Bucky Brooks are saying, I just don't agree with them. And there is nothing wrong with disagreement and I have certainly never been a Schaub "hater". I think it's time to turn the page and move on.
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For instance, here is Faulk on May 15, 2012, predicting the team would miss the playoffs.
And more specifically disses Schaub and says TJ Yates will cause a QB controversy. So much for Nostradamus on QB issues.

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Agreed. It has been brought up long before this latest comment.
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Again you miss the point. The point is not a flip flop. He is not saying he loves him some Schaub now. It is a realistic assessment of the current situation, and the goal set forth by the owner, which is a quick turnaround.

I do not think the Prius drives well.

The other cars I have the option of driving drive even worse, so I think the Prius drives better than them, so for now, it's my best option to get to my destination.

oh look... Common sense. I guess it's true what they say. Common sense is not as common as it should be.

Stop getting it twisted. He is not saying he wants the Prius, but given the options available, he thinks the Prius will get you were you want to go faster than starting over. Again, if the goal is to turn it around this year, and keep the Super Bowl window from closing, in his opinion, given the circumstances, and the available options, MS is the Texans best chance.

Why is that so hard for you guys to grasp? Does your blind hatred for Schaub keep you from being objective? Silly question, I know.
There is no new information about Schaub, he is the same guy that Faulk said needed to be benched. His "confidence" is no different. Yates was not given a shot and Keenum played atleast equally as effective as Schaub, that is fairly ineffective.

You said he had credibility in calling Schaub the Texans best chance to win because he had previously bashed Schaub. Explain the thought process that you are using to determine that when no new information regarding his ability to play QB is available. Good luck, as it makes no sense.

Who's missing the point and lacking common sense here?
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You guys all read stuff into my posts that are just not there. I never said I had a high opinion of Faulk, and as my good buddy Lucky points out below, I was getting tired of his Schaub bashing too. But that's the thing. He is clearly as big or bigger Schaub basher than any of you, so what would be his motive to now say what he did?
He wants the Rams to draft Bridgewater.
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You guys all read stuff into my posts that are just not there. I never said I had a high opinion of Faulk, and as my good buddy Lucky points out below, I was getting tired of his Schaub bashing too. But that's the thing. He is clearly as big or bigger Schaub basher than any of you, so what would be his motive to now say what he did? I know it is hard for you guys to stay on topic, and all you want to do is attack me, but you could at least try a little harder.

Regarding stopping replying to me. Go ahead. Won't hurt my feelings, and then you can go back to thinking you are part of the intelligent people who post here. I love who you say I think I am the smartest guy in the room, and then spout off about being part of the intelligent posters on the board. Good stuff.

Nothing... nothing any of you have predicted came true. You insistence that Matt Schaub had a bad year because of his foot is nothing but speculation, so please spare me the Nostradamus act. You believe it was the foot, I believe Schaub needs help from a good O Line. Neither opinion is smarter, or more right than the other. Get over yourself and your belief that you have it all locked in. Prove something, then crow how cool and smart you are.

You just keep attacking the messenger, not the message.

At least I have an original thought. It's you who just parrots what the rest of the cool guys are saying.

We all know what your motivation for saying the things you do is. But what motivation would someone like Faulk have to say what he did. Does he not get enough face time? Is he known for going against the grain just for the sake of doing it? Stop putting words in my mouth, stop trying to label me. Get your own opinion instead of this talk radio opinion you have formed when like minded callers like you call in and make you nod you head in approval while listening.



See, the point goes right over your head. The fact that he has been, and is the biggest Schaub basher in the world gives him credibility in what he says now. That given the circumstances the Texans find themselves in, Schaub is their best best to win in 2014.

He is not saying Schaub is his guy, or that he was wrong about what he said previously. He clearly still holds Schaub in low regard, but still also says he gives the team the best chance in a quick turn around.

Here is the thing I wish both of you would do. Stop reading and posting in this thread. If it is such a waste of your time, why do you keep doing it? Create your own highly intelligent thread where post count, and join date matter. You are obviously wasting your superior intellect on a weak minded loser like me.

Please spare us all any more if your obviously superior commentary in this thread, because us feeble minded members cannot comprehend your complex, insightful thoughts on the topic.
If a respected Dr., ex players/ radio talk show hosts and everybody else cant change your mind. Then far be it from me to think I can change it. My work is done here. As is Schaub's
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funny funny funny.. and soooooooooooo true... even Johny footbALL would have to be a step up Schaub doesen't even believe he can win anymore hahah if he searched within..
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See, the point goes right over your head. The fact that he has been, and is the biggest Schaub basher in the world gives him credibility in what he says now.
Actually it doesn't mean that at all. He's just a talking head pulling stuff out of his ass like the rest of them do. So what if he's a HOFer, it's still just an opinion. And we've seen thousands of times how so-called "experts" get it wrong.

Whether Schaub is or isn't the best chance for the Texans to win right now really isn't the point. The point is that better QB play is needed for the Texans to have a better shot at winning, no matter who that QB is. If it's Schaub and he plays better than he has since the last season and 4 games, IF he's even capable of getting back to that, then yeah, the Texans have a good chance to win. If it's Case, he has to play better. If it's {insert rookie or FA} then he has to give them better play.

It's not a given that Schaub will play better than Case, or vice versa. It's not a given that a rookie or FA won't play better than both of them. But it is a given that there needs to be better play at the position, not to mention better line play, getting the running game back, the defense keeping people out of the end zone and so on.

Pro-Schaub, anti-Schaub, it doesn't matter. What matters is there needs to be better play at the QB position. Period.
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O'Brien told Around The League that he's huddled one-on-one with Schaub for a "good conversation," but O'Brien isn't ready to make a decision on the passer's fate during a "dead period" in the league calendar.
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Case Keenum has a better shot to stick around, costing just $495,000 in 2014 and described by O'Brien on Friday as "athletic, competitive, smart" and a "good team guy."

But is Keenum an NFL starter?

O'Brien paused for what seemed like a lifetime, before telling us: " ... We'll see."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...rly-to-predict
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O'brien: Matt, i truly believe you give us the best chance to win games for us next year...you're a good team guy...i saw how you handled the tough situation last season, but i'm not gonna bull**** you...you know where this is likely to lead. Thing is, I wanna keep you around, but i'm gonna need your help to do that.."

Schaub: "Sure anything you need me to do coach.."

Obrien: " i'll give you an honest shot to start next year only while we groom your replacement, but i need you to restructure your contract to make it feasible to keep you here. If it all works out, we'll be a better team for it, you'll have a little equity to leave & go somewhere else and start..or you may be able to finish out your career here with the team friendly contract..."

Schaub: "You mean finish out my career here as a back up?"

Obrien: "well yeah..it's either here, or you'll have to uproot your family and likely do it somewhere else.."

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Ugh, are we STILL debating this?

Matt Schaub gives the Houston Texans .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000023452% chance of winning...

at that number is being generous. June 1st cannot get here fast enough to see Matty Pick 6 out the door for good....
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