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Old 01-22-2014   #61
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Many others have said it but I want to augment it from my profession's point of view.

One of my biggest jobs is to garner post-game reaction from pressers, scrums and podium. I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to have a Richard Sherman, versus the cliche machines we have to listen to every other time.

Hockey? Get pucks in deep, one play, one period, one shift at a time...help the team win, anything for the team, respect for opponent etc

Baseball? Might as well yank out this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8

Give me the raw honesty and passion of Richard Sherman ANYDAY. We need more of him, especially in my business.
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And who better to play the hero than Peyton Manning? I really hope this Super Bowl comes down to the last play, because it could be epic.

Also, I gotta ask what the hell does "Your man... Pots and pans" mean?
Lol, I really don't know what it means. My old man says it to me all the time , my uncles and a few older cats I've met through the years,like a greeting but he says " my man pots and pans". So to counter it essentially I'm just saying " yeah yeah I'm your man pots and pans blah blah". Mostly used my males age 35-60
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Crabtree is mediocre IMHO. Great hands though. When teams play sF the defense doesn't say " aww man, we gotta stop Crabtree". A guy like Sherman, offenses FEAR him
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Ali was villified for being a self-confident, borderline-arrogant, powerfully masculine, elite Black male athlete, while in his prime.

Same rings true for the following:
Jack Johnson
Chad Johnson
Terrell Owens
Michael Vick
Floyd Mayweather
Anderson Silva
Jim Brown
Mike Tyson
Michael Irvin
Barry Bonds

Richard just needed to know that white folks in America like their Black athletes smiling, and quiet. This is true ESPECIALLY if their on-field performance is ELITE.

Ask the Williams Sisters about that. Ask Tiger Woods about that. Ask Michael Jordan about that. After Jordan's Hall of Fame speech, all I kept hearing about was how mean he was. Then, I watched it, and all I saw was him speaking his mind about everything his life was about in public, for once in his life. He made white folks uncomfortable, and they called him "mean."

When you hear "thug" attributed to a Black male with no criminal record or history of aberrant public behavior, KNOW that it IS an attempt by a racist to communicate his frustration, without using "THAT" word to do so.


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He hasn't always been that way though at times. Today I saw a different guy. A guy that's very likeable and seemed like he gets it now. I like his swagger on the field. I just didn't care for some of the other stuff he did, and he acknowledged his past mistakes in his press conference. I want to see more of this guy and not the guy trying so hard to self promote. He doesn't need to do that stuff anymore. He's good enough to where his play is enough promotion.
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Great point about Ali. Sherman has nothing on the word-smith that was Muhammad Ali. That dude walked circles around fools, both inside and outside of the ring.
He walked among his own.
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Many others have said it but I want to augment it from my profession's point of view.

One of my biggest jobs is to garner post-game reaction from pressers, scrums and podium. I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to have a Richard Sherman, versus the cliche machines we have to listen to every other time.

Hockey? Get pucks in deep, one play, one period, one shift at a time...help the team win, anything for the team, respect for opponent etc

Baseball? Might as well yank out this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8

Give me the raw honesty and passion of Richard Sherman ANYDAY. We need more of him, especially in my business.
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Lol, I really don't know what it means. My old man says it to me all the time , my uncles and a few older cats I've met through the years,like a greeting but he says " my man pots and pans". So to counter it essentially I'm just saying " yeah yeah I'm your man pots and pans blah blah". Mostly used my males age 35-60
I'd guess that's a local phrase around the Philadelphia area. It's certainly different. It would be interesting to learn the roots of the phrase.
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Well the mic's were on and it appears Sherman was not trying to taunt or antagonize Crabtree. He did exactly what he said. Ran over, patted Crabtree on the backside and extended his hand saying 'Hell of a game. Hell of a game.' And then of course got the hand to the face that sent him on a rant.

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http://nextimpulsesports.com/2014/01...ays-must-read/

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Interview Sherman gave right before the one with Erin Andrews

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I don't follow Seattle and was for the most part familiar with the names of a small number of their players. I kept thinking, why is the name Sherman sounding so familiar and trying to make the connection. Then at last, it hit me, it was the pick six that Schaub threw that he ran for a 50+ yard TD. When that happened, the fan/friend sitting next to me made the comment about Schaub throwing the interception to the best CB in the league.
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On the field should be on the field. Go all out, get emotional, pull, tear, fight, I don't care.

But when the final bell rings, I was always taught that after the game, you showed good sportsmanship and class. And a lack of sportsmanship is ugly.

Sherman failed miserably at that, and is being rightly chastised.

If you don't want to be called a thug, don't act like one.

I hope Manning tears him apart. That young man needs a strong dose of humble pie. I'm now rooting strongly for Denver.
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Richard just needed to know that white folks in America like their Black athletes smiling, and quiet. This is true ESPECIALLY if their on-field performance is ELITE.
I know it's hard to tell us white folks apart, but many white people actually *gasp* LIKE Richard Sherman, even after this media blowup.

As evidenced in this thread, there are some white folks that see an individual and not a dude that happens to have more skin pigmentation that us.

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But when the final bell rings, I was always taught that after the game, you showed good sportsmanship and class. And a lack of sportsmanship is ugly.

Sherman failed miserably at that, and is being rightly chastised.
So trying to shake hands with your opponent while saying "helluva game, helluva game" is failing miserably at good sportsmanship?

I guess I need to tell that to all the little leaguers that have to shake hands after games.

Somehow I get the feeling that if this was Richard Sherman the Houston Texan you would not have much problem with it.

I'm a bigger fan of Richard Sherman now after seeing some of the people that chastise him. Sometimes the compass just needs to be pointed away from those that I would rather not be aligned with.
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So trying to shake hands with your opponent while saying "helluva game, helluva game" is failing miserably at good sportsmanship?
I agree with your overall take.

Having said that, we well know that a transcript of the words won't reflect whether it was mocking/sarcastic.

My thought as it (Sherman trotting after and talking) was happening was "crap, he's gonna draw a flag."

I'll still be rooting for the Seahawks against the Broncos and if the cap allowed would love to have Sherman on the Texans.
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On the field should be on the field. Go all out, get emotional, pull, tear, fight, I don't care.

But when the final bell rings, I was always taught that after the game, you showed good sportsmanship and class. And a lack of sportsmanship is ugly.

Sherman failed miserably at that, and is being rightly chastised.

If you don't want to be called a thug, don't act like one.

I hope Manning tears him apart. That young man needs a strong dose of humble pie. I'm now rooting strongly for Denver.
Kind of a good thing he doesn't act like one then, isn't it? That incident was no where near acting like a thug. Nor will it be so when his charity organization will present someone with a new wheelchair this weekend. He gives quite a bit of time to the community and has being doing so since voluneteering for Special Olympics back in high school. The 'thug' label is misplaced to say the least.

He apologized for it and said it was immature. What else you expect him to do? All a man can do is admit his wrong, apologize and move on. Time for others to do so too.

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So trying to shake hands with your opponent while saying "helluva game, helluva game" is failing miserably at good sportsmanship?

I guess I need to tell that to all the little leaguers that have to shake hands after games.

Somehow I get the feeling that if this was Richard Sherman the Houston Texan you would not have much problem with it.

I'm a bigger fan of Richard Sherman now after seeing some of the people that chastise him. Sometimes the compass just needs to be pointed away from those that I would rather not be aligned with.
I have to agree. It's making me pull more for the Hawks now. I'd take Sherman on the Texans in a heartbeat. We could use some of that passion and intensity. Not to mention skillset.
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I agree with your overall take.

Having said that, we well know that a transcript of the words won't reflect whether it was mocking/sarcastic.

My thought as it (Sherman trotting after and talking) was happening was "crap, he's gonna draw a flag."

I'll still be rooting for the Seahawks against the Broncos and if the cap allowed would love to have Sherman on the Texans.
I didn't know exactly what Sherman said until I saw the film on NFLN. Both players were miked up for the game. The Seahawks authorized release of the film/audio, but the 49ers blocked it for Crabtree.

NFLN also pointed out that Crabtree did not shake hands with anyone after the game. He made a beeline straight for the locker rooms with no attempts to mingle on the field.

If I had to guess, I'd say there was a little bit of antagonism in Sherman even approaching Crabtree after the game, but that is purely speculation on my part. However, he truly was not calling him out or anything, and his tone of voice honestly seemed like it was one of saying "good game".

Many people are trying to paint his outburst after the game as a WWE moment, but I don't buy it. WWE is very scripted and acted out. Sherman's outburst was spontaneous and emotional. It was raw in it's joy, anger, excitement, and fueled by adrenaline. He has said as much in his apologies.

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Kind of a good thing he doesn't act like one then, isn't it? That incident was no where near acting like a thug. Nor will it be so when his charity organization will present someone with a new wheelchair this weekend. He gives quite a bit of time to the community and has being doing so since voluneteering for Special Olympics back in high school. The 'thug' label is misplaced to say the least.

He apologized for it and said it was immature. What else you expect him to do? All a man can do is admit his wrong, apologize and move on. Time for others to do so too.



I have to agree. It's making me pull more for the Hawks now. I'd take Sherman on the Texans in a heartbeat. We could use some of that passion and intensity. Not to mention skillset.
Great post, man. I think the "thug" tag is being overplayed by those that would probably use another word if they could get away with it.

Sherman has never been in trouble with the law. He's never had any off-the-field problems, afaik. His message to youth is always about education and self responsibility. He is a positive force in the world, regardless of what those that don't like him want to say. Actions over words, and Sherman's life exemplifies a guy that puts his time, money, and effort where his mouth is.

How the hell is an upstanding citizen with a strong opinion a so-called "thug"? DexmanC's message is right on the money in that regard. It's a code word that some hide behind for whatever reason(s).

People can say his mouth takes away from his volunteer work, but I disagree. I knew nothing of his charity work before this week, so his high profile is bringing people to his community work.
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Great point about Ali. Sherman has nothing on the word-smith that was Muhammad Ali. That dude walked circles around fools, both inside and outside of the ring.
Lol, Ali could be truculent. And if that was a good thing he was it.

(for the young'uns, google "Ali truculent" and surely something will come up)
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