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Old 02-03-2014   #61
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Here's a rumor connecting Matt Schaub to the #Raiders. Schaub reportedly "has some fans in the organization": rotoworld.com/player/nfl/16/…
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Schaub's release is a mere formality, as he's owed $11 million in 2014 salary and bonuses and isn't worth half that much. He could command $3-4 million annually on a backup-caliber deal. Per Pasquarelli, Schaub "has some fans in the organization." We hope the Raiders wouldn't be counting on Schaub to start. Feb 3 - 5:51 PM
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On another team, I think Schaub can be a really good signing. He probably helps whatever young QB a team like the Raiders takes to develop and has a chance to be the starter if he has a good TC and they don't have anyone else ready.

Just please not the Texans, that ship has sailed.
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I think Ben jones would be a pretty good C. It's really his true position. I don't keep up with cap crap so don't know if it would be worth it or not. I don't think Myers is as good as some think he is. Now that we are changing systems I wonder if he will be as valuable.

I would really consider trading Foster NOW while he still has a high value. There is just to many red flags concerning his future productivity.

While I completely agree with this idea, other teams see those red flags as well and his high salary, injury history, deminishing returns on the field, and off the field baby mamma drama make him difficult to trade. Also for the most part RB's have short careers and are fairly easily replaced. Giving him a high contract was, in hind site, a mistake. I think we'll be stuck with him for at least the 2014 season and then depending on guaranteed money we may cut him as a cap casualty.
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Over $5 million (Base Salary) Club

Johnson - 15.6 million cap #. 3.7 million in cap savings. STAYING
Schaub - 14.125 million cap #. 3.6 million in savings. CUT
Joseph - 11.25 million cap #. 3.75 million savings. STAYING
Foster - 8.5 million cap #. 1 million savings. STAYING
Brown - 8.5 million cap #. No savings. STAYING
Myers - 7 million cap #. 3 million savings. STAYING
Daniels - 6.25 million cap #. 4.5 million savings. CUT
Manning - 6 million cap #. 4.5 million savings. CUT
Cushing - 5.5 million cap #. No savings. STAYING



Other Notables

Brooks Reed - 1.5 million cap #. 1 million savings. STAYING
Derek Newton - 1.4 million cap #. 1.3 million savings. CUT

I am seeing roughly 18.3 million we can recover to replenish this squad.

Note: Numbers from Overthecap.com
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Over $5 million (Base Salary) Club
That is the over $5 mil (cap) Club.

OD's base is $4.5 mil, Manning's is $4.5 mil and Cushing's is $2 mil.

No change to your numbers, just the title.
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This is simply a rundown of players offering Potential Cap Saving in 2014 with last contract year in parenthesis:

Danieal Manning $4.5M (2014)
Owen Daniels $4.5M (2014)
Matt Shaub $4M (2016)
Jonathan Joseph $3.75M (2015)
Andre Johnson $3.68M (2016)
Kareem Jackson $3.09M (2014)
Chris Meyers $3M (2015)
Shane Lechler $1.42M (2015)
Derek Newton $1.39M (2014)
Brooks Reed $1.02M (2014)
Arian Foster $1M (2016)
Brice McCain $850K (2015)
Brandon Harris $825K (2014)
Tim Jamison $730K (2014)

The rest offer little cap saving since their replacements will cost a similar amount.

Some, like Shaub offer more cap savings in subsequent years.
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Danieal Manning $4.5M (2014)
Owen Daniels $4.5M (2014)
Jonathan Joseph $3.75M (2015)
Andre Johnson $3.68M (2016)
Matt Shaub $3.625M (2016)
Kareem Jackson $3.09M (2014)
Chris Meyers $3M (2015)
Shane Lechler $1.42M (2015)
Derek Newton $1.39M (2014)
Brooks Reed $1.02M (2014)
Arian Foster $1M (2016)
Brice McCain $850K (2015)
Brandon Harris $825K (2014)
Tim Jamison $730K (2014)
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My mistake. Correct. Over 5 million cap club.
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So a big question I have is, do we release Schaub prior or post June 1st? I would think getting Schaubs dead money off the books this year would help with re-signing JJ Watt in 2015, but spreading Schaub's dead money out over 2 years would give us some extra cap relief this season if we are truly trying to "win now."
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Just as an FYI, early estimates of the result of the new Thursday night deal are for the cap to increase an extra $5 mil starting 2015.
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So a big question I have is, do we release Schaub prior or post June 1st? I would think getting Schaubs dead money off the books this year would help with re-signing JJ Watt in 2015, but spreading Schaub's dead money out over 2 years would give us some extra cap relief this season if we are truly trying to "win now."
This is true. But you have to realize that not planning for Watt's big contract means the probability of his remaining is reduced. There is always a balance between immediate gratification and building for the future when managing the roster in a cap environment.
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Over $5 million (Base Salary) Club

Johnson - 15.6 million cap #. 3.7 million in cap savings. STAYING
Schaub - 14.125 million cap #. 3.6 million in savings. CUT
Joseph - 11.25 million cap #. 3.75 million savings. STAYING
Foster - 8.5 million cap #. 1 million savings. STAYING
Brown - 8.5 million cap #. No savings. STAYING
Myers - 7 million cap #. 3 million savings. STAYING
Daniels - 6.25 million cap #. 4.5 million savings. CUT
Manning - 6 million cap #. 4.5 million savings. CUT
Cushing - 5.5 million cap #. No savings. STAYING



Other Notables

Brooks Reed - 1.5 million cap #. 1 million savings. STAYING
Derek Newton - 1.4 million cap #. 1.3 million savings. CUT

I am seeing roughly 18.3 million we can recover to replenish this squad.

Note: Numbers from Overthecap.com
The biggest thing that stands out to me is Joseph's ridiculous numbers. Dude hasn't played up to a 1/4 of what he's getting paid the past couple years. I'm not wanting to whack him, unless Crennel finds a gem, but he best get his arse in gear. Maybe the different D will help him
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So a big question I have is, do we release Schaub prior or post June 1st? I would think getting Schaubs dead money off the books this year would help with re-signing JJ Watt in 2015, but spreading Schaub's dead money out over 2 years would give us some extra cap relief this season if we are truly trying to "win now."
Count me in the take your licks in 2014 club. Cut Schaub and absorb the hit in 2014. Don't extend anyone to clear cap space unless they are part of a 4-5 year plan. Ask older/frequently injured players like Daniels and Manning to take pay cuts or be cut.

We may not HAVE to give Watt an extension soon but probably should (popular player, in prime...) Even if you don't extend him in 2015, you have money to plug holes O'Brien finds in 2014.
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The biggest thing that stands out to me is Joseph's ridiculous numbers. Dude hasn't played up to a 1/4 of what he's getting paid the past couple years. I'm not wanting to whack him, unless Crennel finds a gem, but he best get his arse in gear. Maybe the different D will help him
Hey man, he led the team in interceptions what more can you ask for?!
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The biggest thing that stands out to me is Joseph's ridiculous numbers. Dude hasn't played up to a 1/4 of what he's getting paid the past couple years. I'm not wanting to whack him, unless Crennel finds a gem, but he best get his arse in gear. Maybe the different D will help him
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Hey man, he led the team in interceptions what more can you ask for?!
I think the benefit of saving 4 million is not worth losing a chance at getting JJo back into form. We all know what he is capable of. The D last year had all sorts of problems from coaching to morale. 4 million is not going to get you much in the FA market. And a rookie CB comes with flaws and a learning curve. Lets see what he can do.
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The biggest thing that stands out to me is Joseph's ridiculous numbers. Dude hasn't played up to a 1/4 of what he's getting paid the past couple years. I'm not wanting to whack him, unless Crennel finds a gem, but he best get his arse in gear. Maybe the different D will help him
Yep

I would be for cutting JoJo/Manning/Schaub/Newton/Daniels

That would represent 16.35 mil in cap savings.

You could bring Orakpo home and sign a Mathis type CB and a Ryan Clark type S in FA with that $$$$.

Draft Clowney/Nix/Sign Orakpo/Mathis/Clark in FA and your defensive problems are basically solved.

Watt------Nix-------Clowney

Orakpo-------Cushing-------Reed--------Mercilus

KJ-------Draft pick (Sunseri)-------Clark-------Mathis

Not a bad defense at all.
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Count me in the take your licks in 2014 club. Cut Schaub and absorb the hit in 2014. Don't extend anyone to clear cap space unless they are part of a 4-5 year plan. Ask older/frequently injured players like Daniels and Manning to take pay cuts or be cut.
I think the best thing, cap wise, would be to get Matt Schaub to take a pay cut. A $3M salary would free up $7M, which is $3M more than just cutting him.

Then I would cut him in 2015 as a June 1st cut. It would cost us $3.5 in 2015 & $3.6m IN 2016..... It frees up the most money in all three years.

I don't know if Schaub would do it though. He'll probably get $10M to sign with another team to start. Or at least compete for the starting position.
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I would be for cutting JoJo/Manning/Schaub/Newton/Daniels

That would represent 16.35 mil in cap savings.

You could bring Orakpo home and sign a Mathis type CB and a Ryan Clark type S in FA with that $$$$.

Draft Clowney/Nix/Sign Orakpo/Mathis/Clark in FA and your defensive problems are basically solved.

Watt------Nix-------Clowney

Orakpo-------Cushing-------Reed--------Mercilus

KJ-------Draft pick (Sunseri)-------Clark-------Mathis

Not a bad defense at all.
Ummm, what? You would start that guy over Swearinger?
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