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Old 01-19-2014   #101
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The problem is that you've already been proven wrong (plenty of times).. "BoB" has had a commitment to winning since day one and I dare you to try to prove where he hasn't... I'll flash forward.. you can't.

Maybe I'm late to the game, but what the hell does "BoB" even mean? You're the only person I ever see type it (Newsflash... It hasn't caught on) so you should be able to tell me... Why do you type it?

1. (since you like to number things) Is it because he's cheap? Nope it can't be that, because he's never been cheap to begin
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2. Did he make bad hires (Only in hindsight to morons who label him "BoB").. Nope didn't do that either. He only hired the guy that led a expansion team to the NFC championship and as far as Kubkiak and his patience goes with his head coaching hires. Where is "BoB" supposed to draw the line? Is it going to happen when he keeps a coach that you don't approve of too long?

Or are you going to label the man "BoB" when he prematurely fires someone that you approved of? Which is it?

The guy's name is Bob McNair.
Good to know you think I'm a moron.

Lets just say that I would've built the franchise differently and not wasted 8 yrs on Gary. Using the cap is an excuse. The truth is BoB (Who I call that because he doesn't deserve the respect to be called Mr.McNair until he puts forth the effort to put a consistent winning product on the field.

Instead of giving us the Farce that was the Kubiak era. (He still kept Rick Smith so he still hasn't cleaned house. Why because Rick has helped BoB turn a 200 mil investment into 1.5 bil. he's great for business.) Meanwhile BoB's team is going to have the 1st pick in the draft for the 3rd time in an unfathomable 11 yrs.
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Well Then......The record is crystal clear that BoB has done a terrible job in trying to hire the right people and has done an excellent job in hiring all the wrong people to run his football team.
Umm.. No.

Bob hired a guy who was able to guide a team towards a NFC championship

Then he hired a OC who had a hand in winning 4 SBs.

Gee Golly, Damn it must be nice to live in the hindsight 20/20 make believe that you do. For one split second, I'd love to see how you'd run this team.. just for one split second... and no more

Yep BoB has only had two coaching hires post his expansion days. but it's obvious the horse in Houston has already spit the bit.. put up your pitch forks.. lets run "BoB" out of town
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Good to know you think I'm a moron.

Lets just say that I would've built the franchise differently and not wasted 8 yrs on Gary. Using the cap is an excuse. The truth is BoB (Who I call that because he doesn't deserve the respect to be called Mr.McNair until he puts forth the effort to put a consistent winning product on the field.

Instead of giving us the Farce that was the Kubiak era. (He still kept Rick Smith so he still hasn't cleaned house. Why because Rick has helped BoB turn a 200 mil investment into 1.5 bil. he's great for business.) Meanwhile BoB's team is going to have the 1st pick in the draft for the 3rd time in an unfathomable 11 yrs.
LMAO.. What a complete farce.. That is what the farce is

Those of us who have been here long enough (and there's plenty of us) know that your original complaint, which was always your original complaint of "BoB" was that he was cheap who only cared about turning a profit (oh nevermind, you're still talking about money) and winning was never really the driving force behind the decisions he made. (Newsflash.. winning makes "BoB" more money. I know, it's crazy isn't it.. he invested in the business of winning) Now he's "BoB" because "hired the wrong guy". WTF?

If your going to bitch about the guy, at least be consistent. Bob McNair (which is his name) hired the right people, at least he felt like he did at the time, and gave those people everything they ever needed to be successful. Regardless if those people succeeded of not after given everything they ever asked for isn't on "BoB"... it's on them. Hence why "BoB" fired them.

What else do you expect from a freaking owner. Seriously.. you need to take your complaints up to Cincinnati and talk to Bengal fans. Now that's a "BoB"
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LMAO.. What a complete farce.. That is what the farce is

Those of us who have been here long enough (and there's plenty of us) know that your original complaint, which was always your original complaint of "BoB" was that he was cheap who only cared about turning a profit (oh nevermind, you're still talking about money) and winning was never really the driving force behind the decisions he made. (Newsflash.. winning makes "BoB" more money. I know, it's crazy isn't it.. he invested in the business of winning) Now he's "BoB" because "hired the wrong guy". WTF?

If your going to bitch about the guy, at least be consistent. Bob McNair (which is his name) hired the right people, at least he felt like he did at the time, and gave those people everything they ever needed to be successful. Regardless if those people succeeded of not after given everything they ever asked for isn't on "BoB"... it's on them. Hence why "BoB" fired them.

What else do you expect from a freaking owner. Seriously.. you need to take your complaints up to Cincinnati and talk to Bengal fans. Now that's a "BoB"
Bob has spent his money as wisely as he chooses his personnel. Sadly, that too has been more numerous bad decisions. Ed Reed is a prime example. Giving David Carr $10 million Bonus the year before he cut him is another. Ahman Greene, the Foster and Schaub contracts and I could go on and on and on.....
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LMAO.. What a complete farce.. That is what the farce is

Those of us who have been here long enough (and there's plenty of us) know that your original complaint, which was always your original complaint of "BoB" was that he was cheap who only cared about turning a profit (oh nevermind, you're still talking about money) and winning was never really the driving force behind the decisions he made. (Newsflash.. winning makes "BoB" more money. I know, it's crazy isn't it.. he invested in the business of winning) Now he's "BoB" because "hired the wrong guy". WTF?

If your going to bitch about the guy, at least be consistent. Bob McNair (which is his name) hired the right people, at least he felt like he did at the time, and gave those people everything they ever needed to be successful. Regardless if those people succeeded of not after given everything they ever asked for isn't on "BoB"... it's on them. Hence why "BoB" fired them.

What else do you expect from a freaking owner. Seriously.. you need to take your complaints up to Cincinnati and talk to Bengal fans. Now that's a "BoB"
My complaint with BoB WAS about the $$$$ that he made vs how he spent the $$$$$. I am beginning to change my mind after he spent 6 mill to buy out BO"B's contract.

Until Rick Smith is gone I wont be a happy camper. BoB hasn't been a good owner. He has made approx. 1.5 bil off of this investment and his team is picking 1st in the draft for the 3rd time in 11 yrs. That's the definition of profiteering. I truly question BoB's commitment to putting a winning product on the field. Hopefully BO'B can change the culture. Because I can tell you for sure RickSmith Aint gonna get it done. But he still has a job because BoB didn't want to have to pay off his contract and Rick has helped BoB m,ake a lot of $$$$. Hence the 2-14 record. $$$$ meant more than wins.

I don't expect you to agree. But I'm far from a moron. I just have a different opinion than yours.
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So a guy that has made billions of dollars doesn't know how to win.. LMAO
I get the feeling that Smith is more of a Contracts guy than a Personnel guy. Isn't that the guy you want if you're a HC and want maximum input on Personnel? I suspect the OB has more potential conflict with Bob than Rick.
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Not so much in the National Football League. I believe in the scoreboard. The scoreboard says, 79-113, .411. The scoreboard doesn't lie. You can accept the reality and truth of the scoreboard or you can continue to live in denial while continuing to make excuses for all the failures. It is what it is. Besides McNair there is another 20 something Billionaires who are not very good as owners in the NFL.
How many of those 32 NFL Franchises won Championships/Superbowls in their first 12 years of existence? I know some, but I don't think it's a large number.
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Good to know you think I'm a moron.

Lets just say that I would've built the franchise differently and not wasted 8 yrs on Gary. Using the cap is an excuse. The truth is BoB (Who I call that because he doesn't deserve the respect to be called Mr.McNair until he puts forth the effort to put a consistent winning product on the field.

Instead of giving us the Farce that was the Kubiak era. (He still kept Rick Smith so he still hasn't cleaned house. Why because Rick has helped BoB turn a 200 mil investment into 1.5 bil. he's great for business.) Meanwhile BoB's team is going to have the 1st pick in the draft for the 3rd time in an unfathomable 11 yrs.
Your Fired. Shame on you for not having the foresight to match your hindsight.
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Why because Rick has helped BoB turn a 200 mil investment into 1.5 bil.
Since you keep making an argument about making money can you at least frame it fairly. You are using personal investment v. total value of the team. McNair's share of the team is not worth $1.5 bil. Also the team has not been sold so his share in the team is unrealized and speculative.
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Since you keep making an argument about making money can you at least frame it fairly. You are using personal investment v. total value of the team. McNair's share of the team is not worth $1.5 bil. Also the team has not been sold so his share in the team is unrealized and speculative.
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Since you keep making an argument about making money can you at least frame it fairly. You are using personal investment v. total value of the team. McNair's share of the team is not worth $1.5 bil. Also the team has not been sold so his share in the team is unrealized and speculative.
Good Point. Gotta keep the ledger straight.
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Your Fired. Shame on you for not having the foresight to match your hindsight.
Except I called this a long time ago. The failure that is BoB's on field product. So it's not hindsight.

Look at New England today for example, their starting CB's Dennard/Talib are jailbirds that came on the cheap and you have to operate like them if you want to compete with them.
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Since you keep making an argument about making money can you at least frame it fairly. You are using personal investment v. total value of the team. McNair's share of the team is not worth $1.5 bil. Also the team has not been sold so his share in the team is unrealized and speculative.
Excuse me aprox 1 bil or so. tell you what 700 mil. you get the point.
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Bob has spent his money as wisely as he chooses his personnel. Sadly, that too has been more numerous bad decisions. Ed Reed is a prime example. Giving David Carr $10 million Bonus the year before he cut him is another. Amman Greene, the Foster and Schaub contracts and I could go on and on and on.....
Damn, I didn't know Bob was our G.M.


I'll give you Carr.. that's the only time where McNair carried a player. Everyone else though, he let the people he hired make their decisions and control their staff and the personnel they wanted to bring in.


Sorry, I still don't get the "BoB" crap. You want a example of a crappy owner who doesn't know what the hell he's doing and doesn't give two craps about winning .. you only have to look across the way..

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That's what a ****ty owner looks and sounds like, That is the real "BoB" in this city here, because that team will never contend without some Billie bean A's, Tampa bay rays, and Florida Marlins magic. That "BoB" has turned a big market team playing in a big city into a small market team. Bob McNair has done the complete opposite and has spent money on this team and this city.

Has he made money? Hell yes he has, but only because this city is a true NFL city and because the moron owner before him was brain dead and decided to pull anchor...

Is it "BoB's" fault that he was smart enough to dig on a gold mine here?

"BoB" sells tickets, makes money, and has a great PR staff (what sports owner doesn't want that and it's completely idiotic for any fan to try to blame him for that)... that's all true, but can we please cut the bull crap that "BoB" only cares about the bottom dollar over winning? That's just stupid.
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Excuse me aprox 1 bil or so. tell you what 700 mil. you get the point.
I get the point that any money gained in value of the team is unrealized. It isn't money burning a hole in his pocket.
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Jesus h. Christ..putting texian on ignore didnt help because everybody keeps quoting his dumbass posts!!
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Since you keep making an argument about making money can you at least frame it fairly. You are using personal investment v. total value of the team. McNair's share of the team is not worth $1.5 bil. Also the team has not been sold so his share in the team is unrealized and speculative.

Very true. My house is "worth" $100k more than I bought it for, but that doesn't mean jack until I sell it for $100k and have that amount in my bank account.


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Yeah I know, he's also our head coach too.

He's the entire reason why we suck ass. freaking BoB!
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