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Old 02-11-2014   #21
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So I should ignore a real scout but listen to some internet writer/ intern and rob rang? Gotcha!!!
You can do whatever you want, you're a BIG boy. A real scout who was fired from 3 different scouting jobs in 6 years. That should tell you something. If a resume came across my desk that listed (3) different jobs/employers in last (6) years, it goes straight into the the trash can, do not pass go. Says they are not very good at their job or do not get along well with others or both. There are reasons they can't keep a job and they're usually not good. After reading and following Jeremiah for a couple of years I understand why he has been fired 3 time in 6 years. (This is called weeding the garden, separating the bad from the good). Jeremiah is to scouting what Emmitt Smith is to sports announcing.

Say what you will about Rob Rang but you also have to say he runs a million dollar website that is cosponsored by CBS Sports and the NFL uses his player evaluations for their own draft pages.
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You can do whatever you want, you're a BIG boy. A real scout who was fired from 3 different scouting jobs in 6 years. That should tell you something. If a resume came across my desk that listed (3) different jobs/employers in last (6) years, it goes straight into the the trash can, do not pass go. Says they are not very good at their job or do not get along well with others or both. There are reasons they can't keep a job and they're usually not good. After reading and following Jeremiah for a couple of years I understand why he has been fired 3 time in 6 years. (This is called weeding the garden, separating the bad from the good). Jeremiah is to scouting what Emmitt Smith is to sports announcing.

Say what you will about Rob Rang but you also have to say he runs a million dollar website that is cosponsored by CBS Sports and the NFL uses his player evaluations for their own draft pages.
Been fired from three nfl teams as a scout > never been a scout
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Four players debut, many others move in updated ratings
Daniel Jeremiah


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1	Clowney, JdeveonDE	South Carolina
2	Watkins, Sammy	WR	Clemson
3	Robinson, Greg	OT	Auburn
4	Barr, Anthony	OLB	UCLA
5	Mack, Khalil	OLB	Buffalo
6	Jernigan, Timmy	DT	Florida St.
7	Manziel, Johnny	QB	Texas A&M
8	Matthews, Jake	OT	Texas A&M
9	Mosley, C.J.	OLB	Alabama
10	Bridgewater,TeddyQB	Louisville
11	Ebron, Eric	TE	North Carolina
12	Lewan, Taylor	OT	Michigan
13	Gilbert, Justin	CB	Oklahoma St.
14	Evans, Mike	WR	Texas A&M
15	Pryor, Calvin	FS	Louisville
Kevin Sumlin must suck as a coach.
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Been fired from three nfl teams as a scout > never been a scout
Kinda like Tim Teebow. Fired by three nfl teams as a QB... he's still not a QB.
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Jeremiah was...
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Been fired from three nfl teams as a scout > never been a scout
or is it? The next great scout will always have a worse resume at the start of his run than the last great scout at the end of his run.
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Jeremiah was...
Rob Rang never was
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Kevin Sumlin must suck as a coach.
lol what?

FWIW I think Sumlin is a great coach, but IIRC all those players were Mike Sherman recruits - Manziel, Evans, and Matthews.

Sumlin's true test comes with what he can do with Kenny Hill, Ricky Seals Jones, Speedy Noil, Myles Garrett and Jermaine Eluemenor et al. his own recruits.
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Jeremiah was...
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a good friend of mine?
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ooh, I know ... a mountain man.
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Rob Rang never was
and yet he was never fired from 3 jobs in 6 years and has a better eye for talent and is a talent evaluator than Jeremiah will ever be.

Contrary to what you might believe, like bad HC who get fired there are also bad scouts like Jeremiah who also get fired. Remember garbage in equal garbage out. My best advice to any draftnik, follow Mike Mayock.

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and yet he was never fired from 3 jobs in 6 years and has a better eye for talent and is a talent evaluator than Jeremiah will ever be.

Contrary to what you might believe, like bad HC who get fired there are also bad scouts like Jeremiah who also get fired. Remember garbage in equal garbage out. My best advice to any draftnik, follow Mike Mayock.
Jeremiah hired 3 times by nfl teams, rob rang hired by zero nfl teams. You actually have to get hired to get fired. So Rand has never even been good enough to get fired once.
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When I took over my current job in the Natural Gas game I had no previous experience in GIS, but I studied up on it and played around with it on my own.

I took over for a guy that was fired with 4 years experience from 2 different companies. Needless to say, I'm still here and thriving. Just because he did it poorly didn't mean he was better than me.

I hear where yall are coming from though and this is another topic that is hard to argue and convince others of as long as we have no real news to go over.
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When I took over my current job in the Natural Gas game I had no previous experience in GIS, but I studied up on it and played around with it on my own.

I took over for a guy that was fired with 4 years experience from 2 different companies. Needless to say, I'm still here and thriving. Just because he did it poorly didn't mean he was better than me.

I hear where yall are coming from though and this is another topic that is hard to argue and convince others of as long as we have no real news to go over.
Only 9 more days till the combine thank gawd!
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Only 9 more days till the combine thank gawd!
Amen!!!!!!

Then we will have more informed opinions on athletic abilities as well as their game tape. Provided the main guys participate.
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Jeremiah hired 3 times by nfl teams, rob rang hired by zero nfl teams. You actually have to get hired to get fired. So Rand has never even been good enough to get fired once.
With that mind set and rationale you probably think Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi are excellent NFL GMs. Carry on BIG boy...being average and mediocrity await you...I hope you make it. Carry On!
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lol what?

FWIW I think Sumlin is a great coach, but IIRC all those players were Mike Sherman recruits - Manziel, Evans, and Matthews.
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Doesn't matter who recruited them. If they are truly three of the top 15 to come out this year, he should have been in the conversation for National Championship.

Granted they did set offensive records in the SEC...
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Johnny Manziel the next Tony Romo? Matching prospects, pros
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When it comes to projecting how today's top prospects will perform at the next level, it can be helpful to consider which pro players they resemble. As yet another crop of rising stars prepares for the NFL Scouting Combine, I thought I'd match five key prospects up with the NFL veterans whose careers might best illustrate their potential.

Note: The measurables of the NFL players listed below (height, weight and speed) were pulled either from NFL Scouting Combine data or their pro days results. The measurables of the current draft prospects are estimates from scouting sources.

Johnny Manziel
Tale of the tape: Quarterback, Texas A&M, 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, 4.55-second 40-yard dash.

Pro comparison: ...

Khalil Mack
Tale of the tape: Linebacker, Buffalo, 6-2 5/8, 245, 4.65 40.

Pro comparison: ...

Mike Evans
Tale of the tape: Wide receiver, Texas A&M, 6-5, 225, 4.55 40.

Pro comparison: ...

Jarvis Landry
Tale of the tape: Wide receiver, LSU, 6-1, 195, 4.68 40.

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Jadeveon Clowney
Tale of the tape: Defensive end, South Carolina, 6-6, 274, 4.5 40.

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With that mind set and rationale you probably think Joe Banner and Mike Lombardi are excellent NFL GMs. Carry on BIG boy...being average and mediocrity await you...I hope you make it. Carry On!
Nope they defiantly suck but still better at what they do than some guy who runs a website and pretends to do what they do.
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Nawrocki did these writeups, not sure who was involved in the grades...

NFL Draft Propects ranked by Draft Grade

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Clowney, JdeveonDE	6'5"	270	South Carolina		7.5	
Watkins, Sammy	WR	6'0"	205	Clemson			7.0	
Robinson, Greg	OT	6'5"	325	Auburn			6.7	
Matthews, Jake	OT	6'5"	310	Texas A&M		6.7	
Mack, Khalil	OLB	6'3"	245	Buffalo			6.7	
Barr, Anthony	OLB	6'5"	244	UCLA			6.6	
Mosley, C.J.	ILB	6'2"	228	Alabama			6.5	
Benjamin, KelvinWR	6'4"	230	Florida St.		6.4	
Ebron, Eric	TE	6'3"	245	North Carolina		6.4	
Bortles, Blake	QB	6'4"	230	Central Florida		6.4	
Gilbert, Justin	CB	6'0"	195	Oklahoma St.		6.3	
Bridgwater,TeddyQB	6'3"	205	Louisville		6.3	
Tuitt, Stephon	DE	6'5"	315	Notre Dame		6.2	
Lee, Marqise	WR	5'11"	195	USC			6.2	
Hyde, Carlos	RB	6'0"	238	Ohio St.		6.2	
Lewan, Taylor	OT	6'7"	310	Michigan		6.1	
Pryor, Calvin	FS	6'1"	210	Louisville		6.1	
Evans, Mike	WR	6'4"	225	Texas A&M		6.1	
Shazier, Ryan	OLB	6'1"	230	Ohio St.		6.1	
ClintonDix, HaHaFS	6'0"	210	Alabama		        6.1	
Hageman, RShede	DT	6'6"	311	Minnesota		6.1	
Lawrence, DmarcsDE	6'3"	245	Boise St.		6.1	
Roby, Bradley	CB	5'10"	190	Ohio St.		6.0	
Martin, Zack	OT	6'4"	308	Notre Dame		5.9	
Adams, Davante	WR	6'1"	215	Fresno St.		5.9
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