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Old 01-27-2014   #81
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I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but this radio interview with Brett Kollmann is an excellant analysis of O'Brien's offense and what it requires of the QB.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/?podcast...id=CBS.HOUSTON
It has been and I'm pretty sure mussop heard it.
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I don't know if this has been posted elsewhere, but this radio interview with Brett Kollmann is an excellant analysis of O'Brien's offense and what it requires of the QB.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/?podcast...id=CBS.HOUSTON
Listening to Kollmann, O'Brien's offensive ability to option almost unlimited in scope at the line falls right into line with what Keenum was allowed and led to his success at U of H. It will be interesting to see if O'Brien finds Keenum a QB he can feel comfortable with.
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Listening to Kollmann, O'Brien's offensive ability to option almost unlimited in scope at the line falls right into line with what Keenum was allowed and led to his success at U of H. It will be interesting to see if O'Brien finds Keenum a QB he can feel comfortable with.
Good point Doc and Keenum has always been good student of game.
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Something interesting but...

In one of OB's early interviews, he mentioned that he'd already met Case and Schaub. And he's said he believes that he can adapt/build his offense around any sort of QB.

I wonder if he'll forego drafting a QB until later rounds and throw everyone a curveball.

It would be interesting to see what he could do with Mettenberger.
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Listening to Kollmann, O'Brien's offensive ability to option almost unlimited in scope at the line falls right into line with what Keenum was allowed and led to his success at U of H. It will be interesting to see if O'Brien finds Keenum a QB he can feel comfortable with.
Careful there, I was asking this about a week or so ago, not in so much detail, and really got savaged for this heresy.
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Listening to Kollmann, O'Brien's offensive ability to option almost unlimited in scope at the line falls right into line with what Keenum was allowed and led to his success at U of H. It will be interesting to see if O'Brien finds Keenum a QB he can feel comfortable with.
He could surprise us and go with one of Case or Schaub as the week one starter, but I have doubts that O'Brien would tip his hand this early as to whether he believes the 2014 starter is already on the roster or not. I want to use the phrase "playing close to their vest" in the coming months when houstontexans.com starts putting out pieces on current players and possible draft picks. I doubt the org or O'Brien himself will really put out whom they feel will be the top pick unless it's a slam-dunk sort of proposition (Like one of Manziel, Teddy, or Clowney cements themselves at the Combine and pro-days).
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Ok... I think it's a semantics thing. You're saying we would "pay" him, which isn't technically correct. That money is already paid to him, we just have to account for it on our cap.

What I'm saying, is if we cut him take the hit in 2014, then resign him, whatever salary we pay him will be in addition to the $10.5M dead money hit we're already taking for him. So instead of taking a $14M cap hit to let him play out his contract, we'll take at least an $11M cap hit to cut then resign him.



Right... sorry, this is what I just said above.



Right now Schaub counts for $17M against the 2015 cap, & $19M against the 2016 cap. If we take the full $10.5 dead money hit in 2014, the entire value of his contract comes off in 2015 & 2016



Same reasoning as above. Click on the 2015 & 2016 tabs.... I'm not calculating these numbers in my head, these are their numbers. Go to the 2014 tab & click the submit button under cut, you can see how all the numbers change for the 2014, 2015, & 2016 cap.

Click unsubmit. Then select June 1st cut, see how the numbers change.
I don't trust spreadsheets for the finished product. It's too easy to mess up an algorithm during the setup. It's possible that happened here or there was an entry made which overwrote the algorithm. But from a Contract and accounting standpoint, you can't manipulate greater savings than the entire contract started with. That $30M will only go down with any additional base salary, whether renegotiated or a new contract.
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Careful there, I was asking this about a week or so ago, not in so much detail, and really got savaged for this heresy.
I don't understand why some people think any area star has to be bad and only "foreign" stars are talented. Simple attendance at UH is sufficient for many to dismiss him.
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http://www.cardchronicle.com/2014/1/...pcoming-season

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On why it's important to him to be the No. 1 pick:

"I've been purpose-driven my whole life, and I've had to make many sacrifices. Whether it was not going to school to take care of my mom when she was going through breast cancer treatment or telling the University of Louisville that I didn't want a Heisman campaign, because I've always been taught to sacrifice personal glory for team success. I just feel that with all my sacrifices and everything, that this is the time. I just want to be that guy."
With that one line BOB just got QB wood.

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With that one line BOB just got QB wood.

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Do we have to say QB wood? Is there a less uncomfortable term we can use amongst manly men to describe an affinity for a particular player?
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Do we have to say QB wood? Is there a less uncomfortable term we can use amongst manly men to describe an affinity for a particular player?
No.
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With that one line BOB just got QB wood.

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Yeah... you might be right.
But I'm sure O'Brien will wait to see what TB does at the combine before asking him to go steady
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With that one line BOB just got QB wood.

Welcome to Houston Teddy!
Don't we already have a QB with cancer awareness, that did mouth off about his personal glory, etc? All fine but does not get the ball deep or accurate.
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Do we have to say QB wood? Is there a less uncomfortable term we can use amongst manly men to describe an affinity for a particular player?
Just accept it. I have this weird feeling for JJ. Man crushes are real
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You're just curious.
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Do we have to say QB wood? Is there a less uncomfortable term we can use amongst manly men to describe an affinity for a particular player?
HC wood?
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Everyone seems concentrated on what type of QB OB is going to want. My concern at this point in time is what he intends to do about the OL scheme and personnel. Seems like all the top teams/QBs are playing with strong OL. It does no good to have a QB that spends most of his time watching from the sidelines. My concern is that our OL be the protective equivalent of a condom that is unlikely to ever break. OB's curious and weak choice of Dunn as the OL "supervisor" now worries me that we will have someone potentially saboutaging our best condoms money can buy, by poking them with pins.
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Everyone seems concentrated on what type of QB OB is going to want. My concern at this point in time is what he intends to do about the OL scheme and personnel. Seems like all the top teams/QBs are playing with strong OL. It does no good to have a QB that spends most of his time watching from the sidelines. My concern is that our OL be the protective equivalent of a condom that is unlikely to ever break. OB's curious and weak choice of Dunn as the OL "supervisor" now worries me that we will have someone potentially saboutaging our best condoms money can buy, by poking them with pins.

Lmao at your analogy. Nice.

For the first year or so, I'm probably going to judge O'Brien more on his ability to fire than to hire (that, and his record). If the OL coach is a bust, get rid of him. Under Kubiak, we had to accept that all hires would be here at least 3-5 years, regardless of performance.


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Everyone seems concentrated on what type of QB OB is going to want. My concern at this point in time is what he intends to do about the OL scheme and personnel. Seems like all the top teams/QBs are playing with strong OL. It does no good to have a QB that spends most of his time watching from the sidelines. My concern is that our OL be the protective equivalent of a condom that is unlikely to ever break. OB's curious and weak choice of Dunn as the OL "supervisor" now worries me that we will have someone potentially saboutaging our best condoms money can buy, by poking them with pins.
once we upgrade the LG and RT position we should be fine.
Even upgrading those position to average would send the line potential back to top 10 level.
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610 interviewed Theisman re. the Texans QB draft situation. He essentially stated that he felt that there is no one out there that would be worth taking as a first. He commented that Schaub has taken this team as far as he will ever be able to do. He said that he felt that Keenum given a fair shake and under the tutelage of the new regime would give the Texans the best option for success.
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