Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

View Poll Results: Do you s still believe Case Keenum can be a SUCCESSFUL NFL QB?
Yes 36 26.47%
No 65 47.79%
Not Sure 35 25.74%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-09-2014   #81
Lord Bills
Destruction
 
Lord Bills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 342
Rep Power: 440 Lord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by infantrycak View Post
Because I saw no such thing on the field. I saw very consistent line play with the exception of DB's early struggles lessening (not disappearing) and Brooks getting better.

Y'all are just throwing out hypothetical BS and assuming it all favors Keenum.
just because you didnt see it doesnt mean it didnt happen. There were plenty of times analysts and radio people have said texans players were just going through the motions.

There was nothing consistent about our oline play. Effort and competitive fire matter in the game.

You dont have great effort, determination and competitive fire and only get 2 wins in an nfl season with the talent we have on our team.

2-14.

That is a fact. Not hypothetical BS and assumptions. Ive followed sports enough to know that if you are in a bad losing situations, players dont try hard enough and just go through the motions. They already got their money.

Considering the whole drama surrounding matt schaub with fans reacting to his whole pick six situation (the burger, the freeway signs, fans heckling him in his house) along with the coaching staff's wishy washy decision on who should play quarterback, this team was cooked mentally and it showed on the field.
Lord Bills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #82
infantrycak
Lead Moderator
 
infantrycak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Age: 46
Posts: 43,697
Rep Power: 224914 infantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to infantrycak
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Reading is not your strong suit. I didn't say the OL played well or great. I said it played consistently over the season. Now try this concept on for size, a unit can be consistent at either a high or low level.
__________________
The Art of War
infantrycak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #83
Lord Bills
Destruction
 
Lord Bills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 342
Rep Power: 440 Lord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respected
Thumbs down Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOU-TEX View Post
A lot of these posts are bringing back memories of the HWWNBN era, who could do no wrong.
yea because david carr came mid season, thrust into the starting line up, and only had 8 games to prove himself with a 2-14 roster.

totally comparable to case keenum....



Lord Bills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #84
Lord Bills
Destruction
 
Lord Bills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 342
Rep Power: 440 Lord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by infantrycak View Post
Reading is not your strong suit. I didn't say the OL played well or great. I said it played consistently over the season. Now try this concept on for size, a unit can be consistent at either a high or low level.
smdh.....

not gonna say anything for fear of being banned. You've clearly made your point with your countless red reps that you will go against me at anything.

peace moderator.
Lord Bills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #85
HOU-TEX 
Ah, Football!
 
HOU-TEX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: P-land
Age: 43
Posts: 15,136
Rep Power: 75757 HOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Bills View Post
yea because david carr came mid season, thrust into the starting line up, and only had 8 games to prove himself with a 2-14 roster.

totally comparable to case keenum....



Not sure what that has to do with my point, but whatev makes you sleep better at night.

Good day, Case
__________________
Kubiak: "They’re battling their tail off." Translation: They suck.
HOU-TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #86
Lord Bills
Destruction
 
Lord Bills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 342
Rep Power: 440 Lord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respectedLord Bills is a quality contributor and well respected
Thumbs down Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOU-TEX View Post
A lot of these posts are bringing back memories of the HWWNBN era, who could do no wrong.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Bills View Post
yea because david carr came mid season, thrust into the starting line up, and only had 8 games to prove himself with a 2-14 roster.

totally comparable to case keenum....



Quote:
Originally Posted by HOU-TEX View Post
Not sure what that has to do with my point, but whatev makes you sleep better at night.

Good day, Case

............................
Lord Bills is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #87
76Texan
Hall of Fame
 
76Texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,033
Rep Power: 57325 76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected76Texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

As I've said; it's a fruitless debate.
I love my team; Inlove my O-line
It was OK for some to tear Myers apart a few years ago, but it's not constructive criticism when I mentioned Wade Smith's chronic knee problem while praising him as a warrior?

Did I say Keenum is a long shot from the start?
Yes I did.
So please understand that I know all the shortcomings.
At the same time; l still have to defend the underdog (while not being blind).

Fighting for the underdog is a good thing; hope is a good thing; blind hope is not.
76Texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-09-2014   #88
HOU-TEX 
Ah, Football!
 
HOU-TEX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: P-land
Age: 43
Posts: 15,136
Rep Power: 75757 HOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respectedHOU-TEX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Bills View Post
............................
*sigh* My point was directed at some of y'alls post sounding similar to when he was around. Never did I compare one player to the other.
__________________
Kubiak: "They’re battling their tail off." Translation: They suck.
HOU-TEX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #89
JB
Old Curmudgeon
 
JB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Willis
Age: 57
Posts: 22,226
Rep Power: 25411 JB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respectedJB is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HOU-TEX View Post
*sigh* My point was directed at some of y'alls post sounding similar to when he was around. Never did I compare one player to the other.
Reading comprehension is becoming a lost art in these parts
__________________
Thanks to False Start for the sig
JB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #90
TejasTom
Get #80 a ring!
 
TejasTom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Pearland
Section: Brazos Suite
Posts: 1,326
Rep Power: 32888 TejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respectedTejasTom is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JB View Post
Reading comprehension is becoming a lost art in these parts
I lost an art project in this grade.
TejasTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #91
chenjy9
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 242
Rep Power: 2371 chenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Can Keenum become a legit starter? Sure he can! Does that mean we should use our number 1 pick on anyone not a QB because of Keenum? Hell no!
chenjy9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #92
revan
Veteran
 
revan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 279
Rep Power: 15026 revan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respectedrevan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Bills View Post
please stop that BS right now. Ive seen your act on the texans main message board and you are a hardcore matt schaub fan.

that post right there was a post made by anti matt schaub fans.

Very scumbag move to use it on keenum considering he's the one that didnt have the great line, the great running back, the great coach.

Matt Schaub had 3 pro bowl offensive linemen, a pro bowl running back, a pro bowl tight end, and a pro bowl wide reciever in johnson. Yet he had trouble scoring TDs and barely beat andy dalton.

How long has schaub been in the nfl? how long has keenum been in? smdh....

Did Keenum have six pro bowlers on offense like schaub did?

stop that nonsense right now. You can say that about schaub's seven years and loaded rosters, you cant say that about keenum and the situation he was put in this year.
Oh my gawd!!! What is your problem?! We are talking about a third string QB who didn't win a dam game and you go on a rampage giving negative rep and putting a comment to make sure I come back and see your reply?!. Dude get over yourself, the Texans are not going to build around Keenum to give him the perfect offense he needs to "succeed" and be "given a chance". And yeah I was a fan of Schaub, because he was part of the team, what am I supposed to do watch a Texans game and be in a pissed off mood the whole time because Schaub is at QB and not someone else??!!. The only difference between me and you is that I put away my #8 jersey and I'm ready for a change, you are still clinging to Keenum.
__________________
revan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #93
chenjy9
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 242
Rep Power: 2371 chenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respectedchenjy9 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

I will be the first to say I don't mind giving Keenum another look during TC and Preseason as Bridgewater gets caught up, but the Texans would be idiots for not taking a QB in the first round IMO. I am on the Bridgewater wagon if anyone can't tell. Can't stand Manziel and the Carr name has too much dark history with me... Bortles intrigues me though.
chenjy9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2014   #94
Tolar's Ghost
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 152
Rep Power: 2050 Tolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respectedTolar's Ghost is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Here are two related questions:

Does O'Brien's give Keenum a chance to stick as a back-up?

Or does he cut him early on?
Tolar's Ghost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #95
eriadoc
Texan-American
 
eriadoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 17,641
Rep Power: 156011 eriadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respectederiadoc is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via ICQ to eriadoc Send a message via Yahoo to eriadoc
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolar's Ghost View Post
Here are two related questions:

Does O'Brien's give Keenum a chance to stick as a back-up?

Or does he cut him early on?
I think he'll take a look at him. He knows Keenum is young, and perhaps more importantly, cheap. He'll take a look at him in training camp and see what he shows.
__________________
Anyone but Schaub.
eriadoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #96
kiwitexansfan
Let's Mock!!!!!
 
kiwitexansfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Age: 36
Posts: 8,815
Rep Power: 43261 kiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respectedkiwitexansfan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by eriadoc View Post
I think he'll take a look at him. He knows Keenum is young, and perhaps more importantly, cheap. He'll take a look at him in training camp and see what he shows.
I think cheap with experience puts Keenum in an ok spot to stick in the 53.
__________________
All random posts made entirely of smilies courtesy of kiwitexansfanjr -age 4
kiwitexansfan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #97
PapaL
Loose Screw
 
PapaL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Maryland
Age: 33
Posts: 10,807
Rep Power: 85740 PapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respectedPapaL is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwitexansfan View Post
I think cheap with experience puts Keenum in an ok spot to stick in the 53.
That's what she said.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Bills View Post
I can confidently say im smarter, better looking, and more successful than you will ever be.
PapaL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #98
Hervoyel
The Right Track
 
Hervoyel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 48
Posts: 14,201
Rep Power: 162318 Hervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respectedHervoyel is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

I absolutely still believe in Case Keenum. There have been countless sightings and several people have taken photographs of him in his natural environment. Granted they were usually blurry photos but what about the plaster casts of his tracks? How can any of you doubters explain that?

Before Texas was settled Native Americans in this part of the continent spoke of a mysterious short man-like creature that threw leather balls very far and sometimes with great accuracy. They left offerings for him in the woods and told stories around the fire about his exploits.
__________________
A wise man once said "...well at this point it's all been hashed out and you either see it or don't. Hoping for a win next week" - HTown2ATX
Hervoyel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #99
ObsiWan
Contributor
 
ObsiWan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: League City, Tx
Age: 62
Posts: 11,716
Rep Power: 114277 ObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respectedObsiWan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tolar's Ghost View Post
Here are two related questions:

Does O'Brien's give Keenum a chance to stick as a back-up?

Or does he cut him early on?
Quote:
Originally Posted by eriadoc View Post
I think he'll take a look at him. He knows Keenum is young, and perhaps more importantly, cheap. He'll take a look at him in training camp and see what he shows.
I'm in this camp. I'd be surprised if O'Brien doesn't give both Yates and Keenum at least a look.
Schaub is probably already a cap casualty. ...among other things.
__________________
The two most important days in your life are the day you're born and the day you find out why. -- Mark Twain
ObsiWan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2014   #100
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 41
Posts: 32,292
Rep Power: 153118 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: Does Anybody still BELIEVE in Case Keenum?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chenjy9 View Post
I will be the first to say I don't mind giving Keenum another look during TC and Preseason as Bridgewater gets caught up, but the Texans would be idiots for not taking a QB in the first round IMO. I am on the Bridgewater wagon if anyone can't tell. Can't stand Manziel and the Carr name has too much dark history with me... Bortles intrigues me though.
I'm not stuck on first round.
__________________
thunderkyss is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger