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Old 01-07-2014   #21
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8. Double check Tony Boselli's shoulder before drafting him.
8a. And Ed Reed's creaky hip.
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>What are the real lessons we should learn from Texans history?

Than Bob McNair suffers from "impulse buy" when it comes to his
head coach.

I wonder if Jerry Jones called him before the hire and told him
that the Texans were "close"...
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They should also remember that when the fans and media tell you to draft a RB or QB with the #1 pick in the draft or you will be the "laughing stock of the league", that you can go right ahead and get that Defensive End.

Also, please for the love of all things wonderful, do not try to sign your pick before the draft day. Keep that pick close to the vest and see, until the last second, if anyone wants to trade. Just....please... please?
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To paraphrase Thorn's sig...

NFL Life is tough...
...it's much tougher when you're too stupid to sign a stud QB

(or build solid O-lines and D-lines)
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To paraphrase Thorn's sig...

NFL Life is tough...
...it's much tougher when you're too stupid to sign a stud QB

(or build solid O-lines and D-lines)
Or find a ball-hawking safety
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I would like to eat lunch with Ed Reed and Tony Boseli. I'd love to hear their stories and how they bamboozled the Houston Texans organization. They were classy Hall of Fame players otherwise.
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Yeah, I get sick of the "we're cursed" stuff around people who can't take losing. The Texans have nothing to do with any other franchise or sport. This new regime has nothing to do with any recent or old history of the Texans either. Every time a new coaching staff is hired you're getting something completely different. A long lasting winning culture can change with one new HC or one big time franchise player. We just need the right leader who can build us a long term winning culture.
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Keep counting those dollars and say you want a championship. Fans love that.
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There are no curses just poor decision making by the general manager. What if we didn't draft David Carr and took Julius Peppers instead? What if we didn't pass up on the likes of Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers and even Joe Flacco, when we had the opportunity to draft any of them, all QBs who went on to win Super Bowls already.

People say it's hard to find a franchise quarterback but some lucky team usually drafts them and the teams who don't regret passing them up. Or what if after our 2-14 season in 2005 we had went after Drew Brees and Sean Payton instead of Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak? The Saints went on to win a Super Bowl and have made several playoff appearances since.

It's about the choices being made by the front office. We hit a home run here and there but most of the time we have struck out. All it takes is a few smart moves being made to change the culture of the franchise. Any team can become a consistent winner. It's football and not rocket science.

There is nothing to learn but everything to gain moving forward.
so is there a franchise QB sitting there when we pick #1 this year ..???

IMO this pick will decided the Texans fate for at least 5 years
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Never march into Russia in the winter....or the poles....or Greenland (it ain't green). If you can't find the Japanese army, they are in Alaska looking for you.

If you want to win in the NFL you have to suck on purpose in the right year, like the Colts, or just get lucky like some other teams with a good QB. It also helps to cheat like Belichek or the Saints.

We need big, fat nose-tackles.
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This was a really thoughtful piece. It's one of her better ones - and that's saying A LOT. Each of these points could be it'w own thread; in fact most of them have already spawn multiple threads every year - like #1 for example.

For me, #6 was really interesting. I really wonder how much Uncle Bob really takes a good, hard look at how his org functions and where it might be dysfunctional.
Everyone sees when coaches are hired and fired.
Everyone sees the outcome of the draft.
But is our scouting dept. top notch? How does Uncle Bob determine their "grades"?
Who will make the final calls during the draft? Rick? O'Brien? Who okays Rick's trade moves on draft day?

Don't tell me you've never wondered about this stuff
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Here some real lessons learned for the Texans.
These arenít just Texans lessons, but the team with its very short history relative to the league is an easy illustration of many of these points. Youíve been able to watch the team since the beginning, so you can nod and remember.
1. If you donít have a quarterback, you are a nothing in the NFL.

2. Easy to say you wonít reach for need in the draft as you reach for need in the draft.

3. Head coach is important. But great assistant coaches are essential for winning football, good drafts.

4. The relationship and process between the GM and the coaching staff is key for the draft.

5. Cap management, roster composition is a big part of winning.

6. Look at everything in the organization, not just the easy things, and take responsibility.
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This was a really thoughtful piece. It's one of her better ones - and that's saying A LOT. Each of these points could be it'w own thread; in fact most of them have already spawn multiple threads every year - like #1 for example.

For me, #6 was really interesting. I really wonder how much Uncle Bob really takes a good, hard look at how his org functions and where it might be dysfunctional.
Everyone sees when coaches are hired and fired.
Everyone sees the outcome of the draft.
But is our scouting dept. top notch? How does Uncle Bob determine their "grades"?
Who will make the final calls during the draft? Rick? O'Brien? Who okays Rick's trade moves on draft day?

Don't tell me you've never wondered about this stuff
Thank you. Been thinking this stuff for a while, since the Kubiak firing presser. And talk post-presser that seemed to put everything on coaching. All that best roster ever talk which seemed to be oblivious. You didn't hear the Giants owner saying that stuff after this season, and he won Super Bowls with his QB.

Interesting that some quotes coming out after the presser are very focused on looking at everything and the roster.

See e.g. this Grantland piece. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/66538376/

Ultimately it is like anything in life. Easier to say you are going to do something. Harder to implement it.

We will likely not know anything real until games are played. This is going to be the off-season of hype, with so much of everything going to be well O'Brien is going to be non-Kubiak because of X, Y, Z.

And that isn't really the standard. Every coach does their own changes, has their own language, but we won't know squat until we see the roster changes and how it works on the field.
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O'Brien will tell you he is a football coach. Smith will tell you he is a general manager. And the separation of church and state is a healthy one in Houston. That is not to say Smith isn't soliciting input, however. "We have a specialist that heads up the football team and a specialist that heads up the personnel and operations," Smith said. "Those two guys have to work together in concert to build your football team. That's' the way we'll continue to do it. I think the balance and the marriage between the two is good. Coaches need to have a say in the personnel. And so do scouts. I do think he knows what good football players look like, what the physical traits and characteristics are that give guys a chance to succeed given how he is going to utilize them. He is good that way."

Ultimately, though, O'Brien was brought to Houston to lead a group of men who lost their way, to salvage a team that bottomed out. Smith thinks O'Brien is the "perfect fit" to do that, in part because he has done it before. And he is going to have help. More tulip buds will be coming up in Houston.
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They should also remember that when the fans and media tell you to draft a RB or QB with the #1 pick in the draft or you will be the "laughing stock of the league", that you can go right ahead and get that Defensive End.

Also, please for the love of all things wonderful, do not try to sign your pick before the draft day. Keep that pick close to the vest and see, until the last second, if anyone wants to trade. Just....please... please?
we prob should of picked VY instead of Mario Mario was good at beating bad teams but against elite Tackles he would melt like butter


besides we never went anywhere with Mario


maybe if we drafted VY things might have been different
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This was a really thoughtful piece. It's one of her better ones - and that's saying A LOT. Each of these points could be it'w own thread; in fact most of them have already spawn multiple threads every year - like #1 for example.

For me, #6 was really interesting. I really wonder how much Uncle Bob really takes a good, hard look at how his org functions and where it might be dysfunctional.
Everyone sees when coaches are hired and fired.
Everyone sees the outcome of the draft.
But is our scouting dept. top notch? How does Uncle Bob determine their "grades"?
Who will make the final calls during the draft? Rick? O'Brien? Who okays Rick's trade moves on draft day?

Don't tell me you've never wondered about this stuff
7. Never draft based on message board mocks.
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What I've learned from Texans history...

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so is there a franchise QB sitting there when we pick #1 this year ..???

IMO this pick will decided the Texans fate for at least 5 years
Yep and it's too bad Rick is making the call that will probably set this franchise back again. 2002 revisited. I wish I had more faith in Rick.
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