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Old 01-05-2014   #21
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This what? I don't care what Matthews does at the combine. His play is not that of an elite LT. Clowney is not going to disprove either the motivation or injury issues at the combine.
I'm not argueing with you . I meant that folks have their minds made before the process starts . I think Greg Robinson is going to pass the others up as a LT . I think Teddy will hold serve as a premier prospect .
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I'm not argueing with you . I meant that folks have their minds made before the process starts . I think Greg Robinson is going to pass the others up as a LT . I think Teddy will hold serve as a premier prospect .
You are probably going to be correct. However 2 things could happen to change that.

1. Bortles/JM lights up the combine and interview well. (Possible but unlikely)
2. Clowney has an out of this world combine and more importantly interviews as well as he tests. (Highly unlikely)
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This is my favorite forum.

I disagree with everybody on TB. I think he will be the next Andy Dalton. (After today Uggggh) However I thank all of you for stating the reasons you disagree with me in an adult manner. I wish I could rep you all.
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You are probably going to be correct. However 2 things could happen to change that.

1. Bortles/JM lights up the combine and interview well. (Possible but unlikely)
2. Clowney has an out of this world combine and more importantly interviews as well as he tests. (Highly unlikely)
I think someone will get giddy over Clowney which is good for the Texans . As far as QB goes , it's a two horse race in the 1st round . I think there's good vakue that will be there in the 2nd .

Robinson gets his audition tomorrow night . I find it interesting that BOB wants the Iowa OL coach and a mauler like Robinson fits that .
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I think someone will get giddy over Clowney which is good for the Texans . As far as QB goes , it's a two horse race in the 1st round . I think there's good vakue that will be there in the 2nd .

Robinson gets his audition tomorrow night . I find it interesting that BOB wants the Iowa OL coach and a mauler like Robinson fits that .
I really like Robinson, he and Erving have the most potential of any OT's in this class. I dont see any way he ends up as a Texan.
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I really like Robinson, he and Erving have the most potential of any OT's in this class. I dont see any way he ends up as a Texan.
Because you figure he'll be gone in the first?

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I really like Robinson, he and Erving have the most potential of any OT's in this class. I dont see any way he ends up as a Texan.
If the Texans think his ceiling is si high he's worth the #1 overall .
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Because you figure he'll be gone in the first?

If so, ditto.
Top 10

Probably top 5, he's that good. If you get a chance watch him against a really good Fla St. DL. The guys a stud.

Cant wait to see how Erving fares against a good group of Auburn pass rushers.
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Probably top 5, he's that good. If you get a chance watch him against a really good Fla St. DL. The guys a stud.

Cant wait to see how Erving fares against a good group of Auburn pass rushers.
I think Erving and Robinson both have more potential than Matthews. They're just more raw at this point.
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Probably top 5, he's that good. If you get a chance watch him against a really good Fla St. DL. The guys a stud.

Cant wait to see how Erving fares against a good group of Auburn pass rushers.
The Auburn guy Ford can get after it and Erving will be tested .
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I think Erving and Robinson both have more potential than Matthews. They're just more raw at this point.
Agreed,

I see Matthews as a 10 yr all pro OG/C.
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I think Erving and Robinson both have more potential than Matthews. They're just more raw at this point.
The question would be then , how long until they pass him up in pass pro . I think Robinson is much better as a run blocker .

Mizzou has two NFL bound DE/OLB and Robinson was plowing them .
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This is my favorite forum.

I disagree with everybody on TB. I think he will be the next Andy Dalton. (After today Uggggh) However I thank all of you for stating the reasons you disagree with me in an adult manner. I wish I could rep you all.
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This is my favorite forum.

I disagree with everybody on TB. I think he will be the next Andy Dalton. (After today Uggggh) However I thank all of you for stating the reasons you disagree with me in an adult manner. I wish I could rep you all.
The ironic thing is you seem to be clamoring for the two guys who remind me the most of Dalton: Mettenberger & Mccarron. Both are likely 2nd rounders who have been game managers for two elite SEC teams. I don't see either of them as more than game managers in the NFL.
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If O'Brien has anything at all to say about who we draft, and we take Bridgewater, I will have to re-think my position that he is a very good choice to lead us into the future. If he is as good as I think, we will trade out of the first pick, or at worst take Matthews or Clowney because his scouting convinces him we cant pass one of them up. TB is not a #1 overall pick quality player, and just because we need a QB we don't waste that pick on him, or any other QB in this years draft.
So if his scouting tells him that Matthews or Clowney is worth the #1 pick then take them. If his scouting tells him that Bridgewater is worth the #1 pick then he's not the right choice to lead the franchise. Got it........
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The ironic thing is you seem to be clamoring for the two guys who remind me the most of Dalton: Mettenberger & Mccarron. Both are likely 2nd rounders who have been game managers for two elite SEC teams. I don't see either of them as more than game managers in the NFL.
My 2 guys are Mettenberger and Brett Smith. To be clear I really dont like any of the QB's in this draft.

They have better arms than a game manager like Schaub/Dalton etc.... ever will have. I might be stained by the Schaub yrs.

I just use McCarron as a later rd comparison to TB because I think they have about the same abilities and you are considering TB at 1-1, when you could get McCarron at 3-1.
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My 2 guys are Mettenberger and Brett Smith. To be clear I really dont like any of the QB's in this draft.

They have better arms than a game manager like Schaub/Dalton etc.... ever will have. I might be stained by the Schaub yrs.

I just use McCarron as a later rd comparison to TB because I think they have about the same abilities and you are considering TB at 1-1, when you could get McCarron at 3-1.
I also like Mettenberger and Brett Smith better than most. But the bolded is just wrong. Their skill sets aren't even close to similar.
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I think the squeaky clean thing is over-played. The Texans have taken players with backgrounds. Jerome Mathis and Travis Johnson both had fighting incidents. Okoye supposedly tested positive for pot. Cushing was rumored for years to be on roids.
If we draft another such person in this draft, it will all be because of the "new direction" instituted by Bill O'Brien, & McNair, Cal, & Rick Smith will continue to be Moe, Larry, & Curly..... not capable of running an NFL Franchise.
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The ironic thing is you seem to be clamoring for the two guys who remind me the most of Dalton: Mettenberger & Mccarron. Both are likely 2nd rounders who have been game managers for two elite SEC teams. I don't see either of them as more than game managers in the NFL.
I like talented game managers. Joe Flacco, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Ryan, Troy Aikman, etc... Guys with the talent to take them beyond game manager, Andrew Luck for instance.
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