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Old 02-01-2014   #101
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And is John McClain that close to the people running the Texans so he would haveinfo on their Draft plans ? I doubt if they've even completed their prelim evaluation of potential #1 picks at this point ?
You've been on this board since 2010.... three drafts... you shouldn't have to ask that question.
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Well once the draft is done y'all are going to find the NFL disagrees with your assessment that there isn't much difference.
Kinda like Russell Wilson being drafted in the third, Schaub in the third, Romo undrafted, & yeah, Tom Brady.

No doubt in my mind Bridgewater will not be the most successful QB in this draft. I have no idea who will, but I know the odds are against Bridgewater.
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And is John McClain that close to the people running the Texans
Only if they happen to be standing next to the buffet table.
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I don't remember ever seeing him take one of these. Manziel is very good at avoiding big hits. He was used as a runner at A&M a lot. That won't be the cSe in the pro's. He will be just fine in the pros.
As good as Manziel is at avoiding hits, if you listen to his biggest supporters, they will tell you that his weaknesses on film are due to injuries he suffered this year.

So either:
-he isn't good at avoiding big hits (big deal since that is one of the factors that offsets his size concerns)
-he was injured by sustaining smaller hits (possible durability issue)
-his weaknesses on tape are real and were not due to injury (possible mechanical or physical flaws in his game)
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"I have NO DOUBT in my mind that Bridgewater will not be the best QB in this draft" That is probably the single most hilarious and utterly hateful comment I've read on this message board. LOL

Im sure you'd say AJ McCarron would be the most successful right? Another Tom Brady because they share the same 'body type' ?? hahaha wow I needed a laugh too thanks!
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"I have NO DOUBT in my mind that Bridgewater will not be the best QB in this draft" That is probably the single most hilarious and utterly hateful comment I've read on this message board. LOL

Im sure you'd say AJ McCarron would be the most successful right? Another Tom Brady because they share the same 'body type' ?? hahaha wow I needed a laugh too thanks!
It's no hate. It's odds.

I feel good about Aj McCarron. If I were in charge of this draft, he would be the one I target.

But it's a pretty safe bet to pick any one QB in this draft & say he won't be the most successful. Odds are against any one.
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It's no hate. It's odds.

I feel good about Aj McCarron. If I were in charge of this draft, he would be the one I target.

But it's a pretty safe bet to pick any one QB in this draft & say he won't be the most successful. Odds are against any one.
AJ at #1 ?
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AJ at #1 ?
2-1

Or trade up into the bottom of the 1st so we can say we got a 1st round QB.
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2-1

Or trade up into the bottom of the 1st so we can say we got a 1st round QB.
Draft Fales in the 4th instead of AJ .
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As good as Manziel is at avoiding hits, if you listen to his biggest supporters, they will tell you that his weaknesses on film are due to injuries he suffered this year.

So either:
-he isn't good at avoiding big hits (big deal since that is one of the factors that offsets his size concerns)
-he was injured by sustaining smaller hits (possible durability issue)
-his weaknesses on tape are real and were not due to injury (possible mechanical or physical flaws in his game)
Again he was used as a runner a lot at A&M. That won't be the case in the nfl. And yes he's not mechanically sound. Not many QB's are after only two years in college. Despite his mechanical flaws he still put together one of the best freshman seasons of all time And improved his second year.

Against #1 ranked Alabama Manziel's final stat line was 28-of-39 for 464 passing yards and five touchdowns, with two interceptions, as well as 98 rushing yards on 14 carries. No other quarterback has done anything remotely like that against Nick Sabanís defense.
A few weeks later
Manziel injured his left knee on a rollout during the Mississippi game. He only sat out one series. Then he returned to lead the Aggies on a game-winning drive as time expired.
Don't know how anyone could look at that negatively. I would say that shows toughness.

Skip ahead a few more weeks.
Playing Auburn who would eventually make it to the championship game, Manziel threw for 454 yards and four touchdowns and ran for a fifth score, but was intercepted twice. He missed a series in the fourth quarter with an injury to his right shoulder on a running play. He got up after the tackle and then went to the ground before he reached the A&M sideline. A&M officials looked at him for a couple of minutes on the turf before he got up and walked off on his own power.
He tried to warm up on the sideline after being tended to by trainers and stopped as he started to attempt to throw to WR Mike Evans, shaking his head as if he could not make the pass. Manziel, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner, left the bench momentarily, but returned, made some warm-up tosses and went back into the game.
Upon his return he completed 9-of-10 passes for 102 yards and ran for a touchdown. He was still in a sling on the following Monday, and was limited in practice throughout the next week.

Here is a video of the injury

Texas A&M said Manziel was to be evaluated after the game.
Again the fact that he came back into the Game shows how tough and competitive he is.

Did he have a bad game against LSU and Missouri? Sure he did. The whole team played like crap. Against LSU Sumlin abandoned the run way to early. The OL was outplayed and the WRís got pushed around throwing timing routes off. Yet Manziel was still able to put up 34 and 28 points. And after a couple of weeks of rest destroyed Duke.
Manziels thumb was reported to be badly dislocated yet he never once used that as an excuse. He made several bad off field decisions his first year. Was clean as a whistle last year.

He has shown toughness, maturity and the ability to lead. He is still behind Bridgwater and Clowney on my short list for 1.1. If we draft him I will be very happy.
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It's no hate. It's odds.

I feel good about Aj McCarron. If I were in charge of this draft, he would be the one I target.

But it's a pretty safe bet to pick any one QB in this draft & say he won't be the most successful. Odds are against any one.
You're backtracking. That's not how you worded your original audacious comment. It's cool everyone knows who is in who's camp. Just that your original comment is chuckle worthy. If you realize as much, then ok if you meant that there is no 1 sure fire QB then that is more plausible.
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Drafting McCarron is like wanting 1/2 of Matt Schaub. No way.
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Drafting McCarron is like wanting 1/2 of Matt Schaub. No way.
Or the next Tom Brady.
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"I have NO DOUBT in my mind that Bridgewater will not be the best QB in this draft" That is probably the single most hilarious and utterly hateful comment I've read on this message board. LOL

Im sure you'd say AJ McCarron would be the most successful right? Another Tom Brady because they share the same 'body type' ?? hahaha wow I needed a laugh too thanks!
I'm not sure any of these will be more than a backup in three years. A couple will start because they will be drafted high, but I cannot see any of them as franchise type QBs. But this isn't different than a typical year.
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I don't remember ever seeing him take one of these. Manziel is very good at avoiding big hits. He was used as a runner at A&M a lot. That won't be the cSe in the pro's. He will be just fine in the pros.
Welcome to a discussion we had about a month ago.

Round and around you go.
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Welcome to a discussion we had about a month ago.

Round and around you go.
And will keep having until draft day...
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Manziel injured his shoulder the same way Rodgers did against the Bears; it's not like he's magically more prone to injury than anyone else.
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To knock Manziel for injury is absurd. It's the NFL and everyone gets hurt. It's how you respond to being hurt that matters the most.

You can sit out of the biggest game of your life like Colt McCoy and fade into obscurity for the Cleveland Browns.

OR...

You can man up like Manziel did and 'put the team on your back'. I think how you respond to injury is more important than simply being injured.

Even the most stationary pocket guys eventually get hurt (Brady and Manning).

TB exhibited the same man up attitude JFF did in his Bowl game against Florida when he, to me, appeared to get concussed but still stayed in the game and dominated a much better team.
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I think Bridgewater has his own "toughness" stories.
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Teddy Bridgewater showed up to the postgame press conference with his left arm in a cast, his left foot in a boot and tears welling in his eyes. It was never clear if they were from the emotion of a big win or from the pain shooting through his ankle.
Bridgewater spent a large dose of the game limping, but never gingerly. Whenever he was subbed out, his full leg buckled when he jogged to the sidelines.
So when time expired on Louisville's thrilling 20-17 win over Rutgers to wrap up a BCS berth, Bridgewater's pain dissolved, right?
"Oh no," Bridgewater said. "I definitely felt pain even after we won."


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The Cardinals were trailing 10-0 when Bridgewater led the team back to force overtime with a touchdown pass with 21 seconds remaining. Bridgewater played through the injury and completed 30 of 53 passes for 331 yards with two touchdowns and one interception. That interception led to UConnís game-winning field goal in triple overtime.

http://tracking.si.com/2012/11/24/lo...-breaks-wrist/


Pretty impressive stuff, if you ask me.
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Pretty impressive stuff, if you ask me.
Take that **** to the Bridgewater thread!











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